Astrology and gaming addictions

[pudinnpop]

Hi all ,im just curious where video game addciton would be..Now i know in general 5th house is said to rule games and leisurley activites and that jupiter is also involved with this..Im sure neptune would also play a roll in addictions as well....But when it comes to gaming ,is there one sign(planet) thats more prominent then the rest??

Im gonna guess maybe a jupiter/neptune square??? Im only guessing..

Im intrested in what other opions there are on this topic astrologically!!

God Bless!!

[dreamtimez]

Mars gives a competitive edge, I guess ... not sure and Pluto for obsession.

[pudinnpop]

im sitting here and thinking about this(sheesh my pluto in the 3rd really hangs on to a thought,lol) Anyways we know gaming is about escapism(neptune) ,But i like to escape too but with my moon being in gemini i find i get bored of one thing after awhile and need variety.I may have the same 5 things i like but i will rotate,but always open to other new things,so neptune alone i dont think makes one totally addcited..Pluto here adds the compulsive factor yes agreed,but can saturn here also with some aspect to neppy ,perhaps juipter make someone be totally addcited..Im talking more about ppl who NEED their games in a big way..Where they talk about it nonstop and seem to get an adrenaline rush from talking about their games.Get emotionally upset about stuff that happens in the game,and actually miss their games when away from it..This is the type of addiction im talking about..Where they cant see ther lives with out it!!

[katydid]

Originally Posted by pudinnpop

i,so neptune alone i dont think makes one totally addcited..Pluto here adds the compulsive factor yes agreed,but can saturn here also with some aspect to neppy ,perhaps juipter make someone be totally addcited..Im talking more about ppl who NEED their games in a big way..Where they talk about it nonstop and seem to get an adrenaline rush from talking about their games.Get emotionally upset about stuff that happens in the game,and actually miss their games when away from it..This is the type of addiction im talking about..Where they cant see ther lives with out it!!

When my son was 14 and 15 he was really into video games for awhile. He used to play friends online and stuff like that and got pretty involved in it.
Then when he scored his first girlfriend he gave it up cold turkey.

He has a Moon/Jupiter conjunction in Taurus opposed Pluto in Scorpio.
But maybe since his Saturn/ Uranus /Neptune are well aspected from Capricorn , he did not suffer from the addiction factor so much.

He is 21 now and many of his peers were really addicted to video games when they were teens. Many of them have that Saturn/Uranus/Neptune grouping in Capricorn, and the ones who have personal planets in affliction may have had more trouble breaking free.

[astrologer50]

Leo and 5th house covers gambling, but also I think Jupiter/Neptune would be involved. Neptune in 1st is quite gullible and easily taken in. There is prob lots of combo's that could explain this. Pluto could be obsessive but think it's more down to neptune and it's aspects, cos Neptune could lose control, whereas Pluto would never lose control...

[Niplan]

I think that there could be many diffrent factors to a gaming addiction, the reason why the addiction happens, will be writen in the chart.

So it could very person to person, as to what hooked them to the addiction.

I think its one of those things that you need a chart for. I don't believe there could be a cookbook "this causes videogame addiction" interpritation, Since its psychological,

Neptune pluto house of creativity, with uranus would be obsession i think
Mars pluto house of self opp pluto in the house of entertainment could be someone who needs to win?
or what about the house of health, certinly if its an addiction, its not done for leasure or creativity.

But then would the querant view it as an addiction or not, is what should be asked, because that would govern which house rules it.

And the relationship to saturn would play a big part too, i think.

Or it could just be a puberty thing.

[Joseph Ledzion]

It is my opinion, based on the scientific research I have read, that video games are a form of drug. Quite simply, the brain is effected the same way from video games as from crack and heroin, merely in lesser doses.

When a person steps away from the game, they do not get pleasure out of the things that most people do in life. They must return to the game, their minds tell them, in order to re-stimulate the brain's pleasure sensors.

The problem with this, is that the brain is not designed to be stimulated so much, in such a short amount of time, that it uses all its "joy," eventually draining the individual, to the point where he, or she, is required to keep returning to the game. Every single time a tiny problem is solved in a video game, a dragon is slayed, etc, the brain rewards itself with serotonin.

Then, what becomes of a sunset, or the scent of a flower?

Therefor, the same things we see in a horoscope which indicate drug and alcohol addiction apply to the addiction of video game playing. It is a "disease" (says many modern scientists) of the mind.

A spiritual 12 Step program may be needed, such as the one found in AA or NA.

In an individual's chart, using what would be called "the Lot of Video Game Addiction" one can discover the secret dwelling place of their addiction, by using this formula:

(5th House Cusp - Neptune) added to the Ascendant.

Saturn and Neptune, together, very often seem to involved in addictions of all kinds. Whether it is the glamour of shopping, food or anorexia, this does not matter. ACIM teaches that all illusions are equally untrue and can be healed all the same. There is no order of difficulty!

Saturn and Neptune, because they are such opposites by nature. Similarly, as psychologists say that all criminals secretly want to get caught, Saturn wants to bring Neptune back to "reality" while Neptune constantly dissolves what what real life is. When these two blur, addictions can arise as the need for definition and boundaries.

The key then, for all things, is moderation.

Joseph

[Joseph Ledzion]

Also, to address other's thoughts, I would remark that Jupiter has less to do with addiction as would Venus, because it is Venus who rules over the senses.

Always remember that Jupiter is greater benefic, and unless very ill placed, always brings rewards, in the true sense. Moreover, Jupiter is more connected to social structures than anything else, ruling over 2 of the final 4 Zodiac signs. Saturn, similarly, rules over the other two final Zodiac sign.

Venus on the other hand, may easily welcome the desire to sit on the couch and do as little action as possible -- Taurus is the Nocturnal ruler of Venus.

Then perhaps as well might a poor Mars, one giving lackadaisical drive, can also contribute to this. Mars in Taurus would seem to be fit this bill.

Perhaps a person with a fine tuned Mercury enjoys the skills and mathematics of the game, but nevertheless, as previously stated, it is Neptune and Saturn which distort the reality/illusion complex which addictions and idols bring.

The Moon of course, is always involved in psychotic issues.

I remember playing Uncle Fester's Quest, Duckhunt and Super Mario Bros as a child. Good times.

Joseph

[Mist Knacker]

Capricorn is my 5th house cusp, so Saturn is the ruler of that particular area of my life.

My natal Saturn is in Scorpio and is in the last 1/4 degree of my 2nd house.

I have no natal planets in my 5th house.

When Saturn in Leo was transiting my 12th house starting in late 2006 after I had quit my job during a Uranus Square Uranus transit in August, I was heavily into fantasy RPG games. I would play my PS2 for 8 hours straight during the day.

Additionally, in the beginning of the fall of 2006, when I had starting playing the games a lot, Neptune in Aquarius was at the end of my 5th house. It hung out in the last few degrees of the 5th house all through 2007.

Once Neptune went into my 6th house for good in December of 2007, I started to play them a little less. Once Saturn got closer to my Ascendant as well starting in the fall of 2008, this was when I started playing video games substantially less and began doing some other things besides that.

On the other hand, things were quite difficult for me during the Saturn transit through my 12th house. I went through a good bit of depression and was a bit withdrawn.
From November of 2006 until early January of 2007 and July 2007 until first part of August 2007, Saturn was making a difficult aspect to my natal Mars in Scorpio in the 3rd house. During those particular periods, I experienced a quite a bit of aggression, especially the period from Nov. '06 to Jan. of '07. I played video games all the time as a way to cope with these feelings.

[waybread]

I think people are right about the 5th house, although the 12th might also deal with escapism. I think Neptune deals with addictions and escapism, while Pluto would deal with obsessions. Maybe a fine line, here!

Then if there isn't anything really obvious, look to the ruler of the sign on the cusp of the 5th house, and see where it is and what aspects it makes.

[Ekim86]

I would say I was addicted to world of warcraft. The popular mass multi-player online role playing game. It is estimated that 40% of the 10 million or so people that play it are consider addicted. I had about 1200 hours into this game before I gave it up. My friend probably has double that. This game is completed nuts and never ends. NEVER. Thank god I devoloped a pilonidal cyst from sitting on my buns for 8 hours for some days. Not fun. But I basiclly took it as a lesson that I have been litterally sitting on my butt to much. Though my pilonidal cyst was very unpleasant, it cured me from warcraft. I have my sun in the 12th house and I am an escapist. I played the game while I recharged by myself. This fantasy is very appealing and it takes you away to the land of azeroth. I also have neptune in my first sextiled by venus and taurus is on my 5th house cusps so I guess sitting down and doing something sounds great. Taurus can be lazy sometimes. My friend was also addicted to the world of warcraft. There is no planets in his 12th house but he has an unaspected neptune in his 5th.

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[pudinnpop]

yes i played that too and i keep quitting then goin back because my b/f is very addicted to it.Its all he talks about even,lol and no other game can even come close to it!!So to avoid becomin a game widow i still play even tho im bored of it..I did like it but its the same ole and it will just keep gettin worse cos all blizz does it add more levels!! So again its been deleted!!!

[waybread]

Ekim, I applaud you for curing your gaming addiction. I note that you have Venus sextile Neptune. This is an artistic signature. Have you been able to create a fantasy environment through one of the arts?

[Ekim86]

Hmm thats a good question way waybread. I m gonna have to say not really. I do some creative projects every now and again. No energy really put into anything to artistic. When I was younger I enjoyed drawing even now sometimes when I am bored I'll draw alittle bit. My drawings arent that great tho. There deffenitly not too bad ( im going to try to post one of my appropriate drawings in my images, take a gander. ) Last year I made some pretty sweet paper mache demon masks. But I was unable to complete them for halloween. I took a welding class to get into the iron workers union before they closed there doors on me. I wanted to get a buzz box and do some metal artwork. I think i'd be good at that. My venus is in scorpio so alot of the art I enjoy is very dark. I like drawing sick, replusive, dark, gory, vulgar, sexually twisted things. Why not? its just a drawing hahha i can see why venus is in detremint in scorpio. Capricorn isnt the best sign for neptune either. I guess i m somewhat inclined, sextiles represent opportunity so I read, so i guess it takes alittle focusing. I read that with venus sextile neptune I understand that nature is beauty. I can relate to that. Which is way zelda was very addictive for me because of the tranquil setting in the game. I find no beauty in large cities and house developments disgust me. I hate when they plow down trees to build new houses when there are plenty of houses already in the world. I think now that venus sextile neptune is a contributing factor for my gaming addiction. I read that venus and neptune are to alike to do anything too great together. ohh and for puddinpop lvl 73 nightelf druid, duel spec, feral, and resto. lvl 75 frost mage. never made it to lvl 80, too much, professions, acheivements, flying mounts, epic gear, leveling, auction house, instances, gee wiz. I m a sagg not a gemini

[waybread]

Ekim86, what I don't know about astrology is a lot, but to date it seems to me that when people have a Venus-Neptune sextile, trine, or sometimes a square, they try to express it in some way. For example, I will see a chart of someone who looks like he should be a businessman, but then he's got this Venus-Neptune thing and what he really wants to do is commercial art/graphic design. Also, some kids were encouraged to be artistic and other kids got discouraged from it. Sometimes people think they have no artistic ability because they never got any encouragement, let alone art classes, when they were young. But hey, if astrology works, you might just.

[JayM]

I was addicted to videogames but I am slowly breaking free of it. Also you need to remember that pisces and neptune are addiction and escapism, but videogames are electronics and are associated with aquarian energy too (I have aqu AC but pisces intercepted in 1st).

[Shining Ray]

I could easily get addicted to games, in my younger years anyway. I used to play the Final Fantasy games a lot, and it would take hours just exploring worlds, and sometimes I would get lost in them lol. I loved the visual appeal of the games, with a story woven into the game-play, the last few were not as good, and you can only play them when you have a LOT of spare time, which I did back then. I always thought Uranus would be significant for the virtual world theme, and technology involved. However, Neptune does need to escape the mundane world, and becomes addicted. Anyway, I am way behind on games I haven't even got the Wii game console, and that has been out a few years. My little boy might want it for his birthday. I am one of those women who doesn't really like jewellery that much, but likes new technology. I think my partner thinks I am about 12 years old because he buys me Harry Potter DVDS , and then when I watched the Twilight movie online, he had the cheek to say it was just for teenagers. I know it is, but still I wanted to see what all the hype was about (it's my excuse and I'm sticking to it). Everything in moderation as they say, Jupiter and Neptune can go to excess, the overeating, drinking, partying, drug taking. The planet Pluto can also go to extremes.

Here is quote from Wiki on game addiction:

Excessive use of video games may have some or all the symptoms of drug addiction or other proposed psychological addictions. Some players become more concerned with their interactions in the game than in their broader lives. Players may play "many" hours per day, gain or lose significant weight due to playing, disrupt sleep patterns to play, play at work, avoid phone calls from friends and/or lie about play time. Relationships with family and friends, and performance at work or school, may suffer.

I just browsed around looking for examples which I will post, the first chart is an addicted gamer, who committed suicide:

In November 2001, 21-year-old American Shawn Woolley committed suicide after what his mother claimed was an addiction to EverQuest. Woolley's mother stated, "I think the way the game is written is that when you first start playing it, it is fun, and you make great accomplishments. And then the further you get into it, the higher level you get, the longer you have to stay on it to move onward, and then it isn't fun anymore. But by then you're addicted, and you can't leave it." After playing Everquest for a year, Woolley was diagnosed with depression and schizoid personality disorder. He played Everquest for one and half years until at the age of 21, he committed suicide by shooting himself, while the game was running on his computer.

Shawn had played other computer games for 10 years, before he played Everquest. None of those games "changed him" like Everquest did. His personality changed after starting to play Everquest - he became withdrawn, anti-social and depressed. According to his mother, within months after Shawn started playing Everquest, it affected his real life negatively. Six months after he started playing it, he quit his job, then he was evicted from his place of residence because he had no money to pay the rent. Soon after Woolley was evicted, his mother recommended he stay in a group home to make some friends in real life. They also took psychological tests of his mental state. That is when he was diagnosed with depression and schizoid personality disorder. They put him on more medication and made sure he was seeing a psychiatrist. After a while, he told his mother that he was interested in getting a new apartment and living on his own, despite his mother's disagreement. Woolley moved into a new apartment, eventually earning enough money to buy a new computer. He quickly returned to his online-gaming addiction and stopped all contact with his family, friends and case worker. He stopped taking his medications and stopped seeing his doctor, therapist, and psychiatrist.

Astrologically we have Sun in Aquarius square Uranus (progressive and interested in technology/Sci-Fi, this aspect can reflect an outsider with a rebellious nature). He has a possible Moon-Neptune conjunction (depending on birth time). However, it was Mercury in Pisces that had become mentally absorbed into a fantasy world, and it's opposing that Mars-Jupiter conjunction in Virgo. When Mars and Jupiter are conjunct it can be an adventurous combination, but more reserved perhaps in Virgo - the sign of attention to detail, work, and mundane tasks. Mars in Virgo can become angry over little things, and he has difficulty accepting imperfections. I honestly think he needed to keep his job for his own sanity, a daily routine which could help ground him, but Mercury in Pisces (fall) opposed his Virgo planets. Perhaps other indicators in his chart also indicated escapism. His mental health is affected by these mutable oppositions, as they often rule mental states, for various reasons. The Mercury/Mars/Jupiter combination is mentally active, but he became withdrawn from the real world, and couldn't seem to snap out of it (Mercury in Pisces).

[Nexus7]

Shawn Woolley. Never heard of him before now, but poor lad.

I have seen 'schizoid' described via nice, new designations more recently, but either way or whatever it gets to be christened, this does not indicate that the recipient of such a diagnosis is especially talented at faring well in relating to others, nor in coming to grips with life.

Sun square its ruler Uranus looks a lot like 'the usual suspects' most obvious thing to look for, but his Sun appears to be 'weakened' further by being right at the nadir of the chart (home as a point of safety) and by beng linked with Merury to his SNode. Withdrawal again - it is supposedly the NNode that is more about creating a wider social world beyond more precious interests and preoccupations. I would be curious to know how strongly the nodal axis does figure in the charts of people experiencing addictions of any stripe or form, whether or not North or South. The South Node frantically banging away to extract satisfaction from something that only leads to more emptiness, with he North Node ever hungry for more, regardless to cost of well-being. Looks like the inventors of Everquest knew their target audience and players, all too well.

But more telling too, as no doubt you have already covered, is the Moon conjunct Neptune square Saturn. We can only guess at the sense of inadequacy this young man must have experienced at any inabilityof his to bond with others and to be able to relate successfullywith them - no wonder the Neptunian route of escape into fantasy was sch an easy temptation.

[Shining Ray]

Originally Posted by Nexus7

Shawn Woolley. Never heard of him before now, but poor lad.

Originally Posted by Nexus7

I have seen 'schizoid' described via nice, new designations more recently, but either way or whatever it gets to be christened, this does not indicate that the recipient of such a diagnosis is especially talented at faring well in relating to others, nor in coming to grips with life.

I hadn't heard of him until I went looking for an example of gaming addiction. I was actually looking for the data of a man who died in an Internet cafe for playing a game for 50 hours straight. His data was unavailable, but on the search I stumbled across Shawn Woolley.

Sun square its ruler Uranus looks a lot like 'the usual suspects' most obvious thing to look for, but his Sun appears to be 'weakened' further by being right at the nadir of the chart (home as a point of safety) and by beng linked with Merury to his SNode. Withdrawal again - it is supposedly the NNode that is more about creating a wider social world beyond more precious interests and preoccupations. I would be curious to know how strongly the nodal axis does figure in the charts of people experiencing addictions of any stripe or form, whether or not North or South. The South Node frantically banging away to extract satisfaction from something that only leads to more emptiness, with he North Node ever hungry for more, regardless to cost of well-being. Looks like the inventors of Everquest knew their target audience and players, all too well.

The Sun in Aquarius square Uranus was the "usual suspect". The last time I came across this aspect it belonged to a pop star in France, who died by electrocuting himself as he was changing a light bulb in the bath. I analyzed other cases of accidental deaths, and it seems our own astrological nature is out to get us!!

The French 'Pop Star' had Sun in Aquarius in the 11th degree square Uranus. It is strange how his own progressive and electric nature also symbolised his death. The same is true with Shawn Wooley, he was attracted to technology, gaming and Sci-Fi Fantasy. However, he was insistent to play, and rebellious to the point he quit his job to play the game, and lost his financial stability and home. He had to play the game at all costs, even if it led to him becoming totally detached from reality.

His natal chart doesn't have a birth time, but I agree the nodes may play a part here. Mercury conjunct his Aquarius south node suggests self worth issues because of the fixed oppostiton. Aquarius is more focused on the abstract mental level, and is a group orientated sign, and they sometimes have difficulty operating on an individual level, and relating to people "individually". Perhaps the Aquarian detachment was taken to the extreme, and the North Node in fiery Leo is all about personal self expression, and being recognised for what makes us individual.

But more telling too, as no doubt you have already covered, is the Moon conjunct Neptune square Saturn. We can only guess at the sense of inadequacy this young man must have experienced at any inabilityof his to bond with others and to be able to relate successfullywith them - no wonder the Neptunian route of escape into fantasy was sch an easy temptation.

I don't know his birth time, but he lived a very anti-social and isolated life, usually Aquarius is about friendships and groups, but it seemed his social life was lived in an online game! What he really needed was to develop confidence and not live too much in his "head" (Aquarius). I think games are fine in moderation, but if it is taking you away from real life it becomes a problem. I would imagine he would have a problematic Moon, with his inability to relate.

I just looked online to see what this game was about:

EverQuest, often shortened to EQ, is a 3D fantasy-themed massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) that was released on the 16th of March, 1999. The original design is credited to Brad McQuaid, Steve Clover, and Bill Trost. It was developed by Sony's 989 Studios and its early-1999 spin-off Verant Interactive.It was published by Sony Online Entertainment (SOE). Since its acquisition of Verant in late 1999, SOE develops, runs and distributes EverQuest.

EverQuest has earned numerous awards, including 1999 GameSpot Game of the Year and a 2008 Technology & Engineering Emmy Award. EverQuest II was released in late 2004. Set in an alternate universe similar to that of the original EverQuest, this "sequel" takes place 500 years after the awakening of The Sleeper. The game has also inspired a number of other spinoffs.

The game makers need to design a game that is appealing, and puts the player into the game. Computer games used to be shorter, but with the creation of new fantasy worlds, the player feels they get more value for money. However, you can't get off the **** game, and I know lol. Designers know what sells and what keeps the gamer addicted, they are partially responsible, but people want these games, and when a market opens, it seems the money making "game industry" are only too happy to oblige.

[Nexus7]

And he was 21 when he committed suicide. That means that Saturn by transit was making its first square to its own place - and therefore, transitting his Moon/Neptune too. However much he wanted to escape further into fantasy (and the pretty graphics look pretty Moon/Neptune too, perhaps a lot like the women he could not have becase of his inability to make 'real' friends, let alone court 'real' girls), the more Saturn, the bailiffs and his mother were knocking at the door, confronting him with the untenability of this project. Ad it seems it was written into the rules of the game that even here, this boy did not find success - only more failure. And as you say, Aquarius is a sociable sign, so I would suggest that inabiliies to make friends in the 'real' world would therefore have struck at his self-esteem all the more. But the whole chart to my mind speaks of a dilemma he was never able to resolve in life - too late for him now.

If anyone else posting here would like to have their nodes examined, perhaps they might be better to create a separate thread with the chart up so we can have a look?

[Shining Ray]

Yes you are absolutely right. The Saturn square at 21 does challenge us to move into adulthood, and into real world of responsibility. I first left my childhood home at this time, and I was looking forward to moving out. Yet, I broke down in tears within the first week. I didn't feel upset moving, as I was looking forward to not living under anymore parental rules lol. I just think the major change hit me like a ton of bricks.

According to Liz Greene in The Art of Stealing Fire:

It reflects a time of intellectual and social separation - a movement into the larger world, and a time when decisions must be made about future direction. By this time one is expected to have made up their mind about what one is going to do in life - even if everyone knows that the decision will be changed later. At 22, we are out in the world on our own. Before that if we have no sense of direction, people say " Oh well, you have lots of time." But by 22 we are expected to have some idea of where we are going.

Maybe he couldn't face moving into the adult world, it's sad that he felt he had to end his life. As you powerfully stated the bailiffs, bills, work, and his mother were all pounding on his door to face up to his responsibilities (Saturn). At the time of his death transiting Uranus was conjunct his Aqaurian Sun, this aspect may also speak volumes about his refusal to accept Saturn's rules. He was resistant to conforming to the world at large, where you have to pay your bills if you want a roof over your head. Leave childhood behind (Moon) and learn how to be responsible and self-sufficient. Natally with Saturn in Virgo he needed to learn how to establish reliable routines everyday. I read he was prone to epileptic seizures, another Uranus condition, he would have fits if he spent too much time on the game. This probably knocked his confidence even more. He also struggled with learning difficulties and emotional problems.

You also made some interesting observations that were spot on concerning his love life, and his inability to court "real girls". I never detailed his death in any of the above posts, but here is how he died below.

A week before the suicide he had quit his pizza parlour job in order to play upwards of 12 hours a day, and bought a rifle. On Thanksgiving Day, 2001-11-22, Woolley's mother, Elizabeth, went to visit him at his apartment to bring him to the annual family gathering, so he would not be alone during the holiday. She knocked on the door with no response, then tried to open the door but the chain lock was connected. She reports there was a foul smell coming from the room. After going to her residence to get a crowbar and a hammer, she forced the chain off and entered the apartment where she found her son slouched in his computer chair dead. He had shot himself while playing "Everquest" at his computer.

After his death was made public, with the help of other Everquest gamers, Elizabeth was able to piece together incidents that happened in the game that may have led to his decision to take his life. During the fall of 2001, Shawn indicated that he was in a special relationship. On October 31, 2001, on the gaming server that Shawn had been on since he started playing Everquest – Vallon Zek, Shawn created a character in the image of himself, that he named ILUVEYOU. He played that character for about 3 hours. He then left that server and never went back on it. Shawn’s mother speculates that whatever happened that day was so traumatic for Shawn, that he no longer wanted to live.

He fantasized he was in some special relationship, I am not sure of the full details, but you were right it was all rooted in his inability to form real relationships. His mother believes there was some sort of rejection or betrayal in the game, involving the character ILUVEYOU. He was hurt by this, and his mother tried to comfort him, and tell him these are not real people. It powerfully reflects what you said about failure in "real life" and in the "game world" and it didn't boost his self-esteem.

Some gamers call the Everquest game "Evercrack" because of it's addictive nature.

[Niplan]

i played everquest for like 8 - 9 years... looking at that picture makes me want to install it AGAIN...

and then i played world of warcraft for 5 or so years...

Matrix online, Eve online, A lot of others, It made me sad to think that i lost all that time playing, HOWEVER, i would have probably killed my self had i not the escape.

Addictions while bad, can also be good.

[Shining Ray]

Hi Niplan,

I don't mean to make anyone addicted again by posting alluring games images lol.But I can see why it is appealing, as the graphics are a selling point. I used to play Final Fantasy for hours, and get up early in the morning to play. I have sold my old games now, as I am not as interested in playing as I have got older. I used to play when I lived by myself, and it did pass the time away, and kept me entertained.



There is definitely an addictive nature to games. However, I find the Internet just as time consuming, you have to put the computer out of sight sometimes, so you can get off it.

I agree some escapism is needed in life, but in moderation. When I reach the evening time, I switch on the television, or go on the internet. Although I tend to do both at once. Laptop, watching T.V and posting on astrology weekly or blogging etc. I don't want to be overloaded with technology, but society has moved forward in all forms of instant communication and entertainment. We have mobile phones, computers, and you can even watch T.V online etc. In the future we may face the consequences and pay the price of too much detachment/technology and NOT enough real relating. But this isn't just a mass problem, you have be realistic with yourself and assess how much time is being wasted on these things. I also fall into this category, as I am easily absorbed into technology.

It is nice to be old fashioned sometimes or live a more simple life, and go to bed with a book, rather than a laptop that hurts yours eyes after a while lol. Life is difficult at times and without some enjoyment, or escapism we would crack up. But Neptunians like myself don't know limits (Saturn) or moderation, and where once you watched a couple of hours of telly it doubles, and then triples. Then it becomes unhealthy.

I will have to get of the laptop now, as I am in serious trouble with money. This thread has been a warning to myself about dealing with material life, and the consequences. I will be back online later .

[Niplan]

yep also played the final fantasy MMO, and several playstation RPGs, Manly because yes they were a time sink, I have no friends, and I am light sensitive so going outside during the day hurts my eyes.

I don't even really watch TV anymore at all, I study astrology wich sadly all the information and books are online so i have to study at the computer which is horrible.

being new to the actual persuit of astrological knowledge, I've noticed too that technology is destroying anyones real ability to do this without a computer (Example my post with help on reading/converting an ephermis)

Gotta wonder, When was the last time anyone actualy looked at the stars, or tried to do a chart by hand, Its sad because I don't believe anyone will know how to do anything without a computer soon, and I love computers and technology.

I have built my own computer from nothing, I can bluetooth, transfer, wifi set up and disect trouble shoot all of those things, so its not as if im a technophobe.

MMMM skynet to the rescue!!!

P.S.S.S :P
what if "Gaming addictions" Aren't addictions to the game, but Technology addictions.

[JayM]

Originally Posted by Niplan

yep also played the final fantasy MMO, and several playstation RPGs, Manly because yes they were a time sink, I have no friends, and I am light sensitive so going outside during the day hurts my eyes.

I don't even really watch TV anymore at all, I study astrology wich sadly all the information and books are online so i have to study at the computer which is horrible.

being new to the actual persuit of astrological knowledge, I've noticed too that technology is destroying anyones real ability to do this without a computer (Example my post with help on reading/converting an ephermis)

Gotta wonder, When was the last time anyone actualy looked at the stars, or tried to do a chart by hand, Its sad because I don't believe anyone will know how to do anything without a computer soon, and I love computers and technology.

I have built my own computer from nothing, I can bluetooth, transfer, wifi set up and disect trouble shoot all of those things, so its not as if im a technophobe.

MMMM skynet to the rescue!!!

P.S.S.S :P
what if "Gaming addictions" Aren't addictions to the game, but Technology addictions.

Thats true about the technology being addictions. Some people need the best stuff, big monitors and fast computer and all the newest cell phones and small gagets. That in itself is an addiction.

Louis Hay says in one of her books that addictions is simply running away from the magnificence of yourself. Just some food for thought.