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Old 04-18-2009, 05:13 PM
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please take a look, needing advice

Main reason I am asking for someone to take a look, although I feel very close and deep bond with this person(must be heavy Pluto influence) but since this is a long distance relationship, and it requires very much efforts of all kinds from both sides, I hoped someone might see something I am not seeing and reassure me in my feelings this is something worth fighting for.

I am posting synastry chart of me and new boyfriend, relationship started when transiting Venus stationed right on his natal Venus, and opposes mine.

I find Uranus really a source of fear while looking at the chart,
my Moon is in Aquarius and his is conj Uranus - similar patterns;
transiting Uranus is opposing my Venus and conjuncting his - Uranus to Venus is always said to be short-term

really heavy but bonding aspects I see is my Sun conjuncts his Pluto, and very similar, almost like vice-versa, his Moon conjuncts my Pluto and Saturn.

Time of his birth chart is unknown so I disregard the houses and allow the Moon position to vary.

Also what I see like a heavy thing is he has natal Venus-Pluto-Saturn T-square, and true is he's been not very lucky in love so far.

Now transiting Pluto is squaring both my Sun and his Pluto, activating this T-square, bringing deep changes.

With all this Uranus activity I fear this may be a really short term thing, except nothing in reality of our relationship points to that.
Him being a Taurus and a very typical one is very down to earth, slow, but really secure type. Looking for long term thing.
but aspects to Saturn, those that bring stability, are my SUn square his Saturn, and his Moon conjuncts my Saturn - not really good ones

I am posting both our synastry and his natal(just for aspects, not houses)
I would appreciate if someone tells me what you think.

First meeting chart of us has Pluto right on DSC, if that matters. I feel this is the most fated thing I ever experienced.
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:38 PM
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Re: please take a look, needing advice

hermetic,

I'd really like to see a composite chart between the two of you. From what I understand, Synastry charts are really for the "pre-relationship" phase, while composites tell us how two people work together as a unit. Since your question is about your boyfriend, then the two of you are in a relationship.

As a side note, I find your boyfriend's chart really interesting--it is nearly identical to my own! Just a house off, but all aspects are the same.

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Old 05-13-2009, 06:03 PM
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Re: please take a look, needing advice

ok, back to this thread..

L.C, appologize for you, seems like he was wrong about his actually time of birth, I made him ask his mother for accurate data, so his natal is somewhat different now, i corrected it in the original post.
so you were born really close, perhaps the same day even

here is the synastry, which is mostly ok, but the Moon in 6th house seems unfavorable
and Mars in 4th, Pluto in 5th, hmm?

Venus ruler of 5th house in 1st and sextile from Saturn in 3rd, all seems nice. except square to Mars, which I do not know what might mean - possible struglle between male/female energies?

ruler of 7th in 7th, and Jupiter nevertheless

I really don't know what else to look at in composites, so if you have any ideas I'll be very grateful
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: please take a look, needing advice

Venus rising, with an exact sextile to Saturn in the 3rd is VERY nice. That strengthens the communication factor, and shows that you both really want things to work out.

The Venus is square Mars in Virgo in the 4th. That keeps things lively, but is not too distressing. Bickering perhaps, and some misunderstandings, but nothing too difficult to overcome. The mars is square the Neptune in the 6th, and by midpoint, Mars =Venus/Neptune. That can be 'love unfulfilled'- or 'the state of being unsatisfied.'
Because it is the mars, it may represent him, and it may be thaT HE is a hard person to please, or to keep satisfied, perhaps because his vision of perfection remains permanently unfulfilled. He may at times have a vision or a fantasy that will be hard for you to live up to.

If you look at the configuration of Venus/mars/ and the Moon /Neptune, you can see a somewhat 'disconnected' t-square. The Venus squares mars and the mars squares Neptune, and by midpoint then it works like a t-square. But the Venus is not really opposed the Neptune. One possible interpretation is that you, being the Venus in the composite, are not going to completely live up to, or connect to, a vision or fantasy expectation that he harbors in terms of his perfect partner. [ moon/neptune sq mars]

I could be wrong, but it feels like he is subconsciously comparing you to a past relationship, without making it clear to you what he really is looking for.

The Jupiter in the 7th is very nice, as is the supporting sextile to Uranus in the 5th. THAT is very sensual and exciting physically, and even psychicly, as you may feel that you truly know each other deeply. The Jupiter square Pluto from the 7th to 5th is very sexy as well, and brings a depth to the feelings and making a square to the Sun, brings in that soul, karmic level once again.

I think you can be very good together, but if it does not endure, it may be because of some of his old patterns. He will need to let go of old baggage to really trust you and let you in. I worry that he may not always speak up with his exact feelings, and he may let some things slide by, not giving you a chance to clear things up. That Moon Neptune can be worrisome because he may jump to false conclusions , but keep them to himself, not giving you a chance to prove him wrong. His conclusions may be based upon old outdated relationships, and I think he has a basic distrust built up by now.

Your Venus rising, supported by that 3rd house Saturn may be the mitigating factor, but only if you listen closely to him and read between the lines.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:34 PM
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Re: please take a look, needing advice

I just looked at his natal chart so I will add something else to my composite reading. It seems as though he may have some built up anger towards woman in his life, and rightly so. He may have been betrayed in the past, and it is something he may not be over all of the way. The tight Venus /Saturn square is difficult for you to battle with. And he may not easily give you the benefit of the doubt. I would not ever try and make him jealous, because that would only push him away, and make him feel that he was right all along. he probably needs the opposite, the reassurance that you are there unconditionally, for the long haul. That is the best way to thaw out a venus/sat square imo.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:22 PM
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Re: please take a look, needing advice

thank you katydid,

really good reply and very accurate too

as for Venus Saturn aspect, yes, we have great communication and both want this to work very much.

you described Mars position as the person being 'uhsatisfied'... you presumed him, but I have the feeling it may be me. I am the more energetic one, more initiative comes from me, and I also will be frank in admitting I think he's slighly more into me, and before I met him I was 'into' different type of people than he is. So that description of the Mars person 'his vision of perfection remains permanently unfulfilled' connects really well with my natal Venus Neptune square

could be wrong, but it feels like he is subconsciously comparing you to a past relationship, without making it clear to you what he really is looking for.

I keep having the dreams lately of my previous love. this may also pertaining to me.

He may have been betrayed in the past, and it is something he may not be over all of the way. The tight Venus /Saturn square is difficult for you to battle with. And he may not easily give you the benefit of the doubt. I would not ever try and make him jealous, because that would only push him away, and make him feel that he was right all along. he probably needs the opposite, the reassurance that you are there unconditionally, for the long haul. That is the best way to thaw out a venus/sat square imo.

Great interpretation and great advice! He is insanely jealous without any need to be so(he knows nothing of my dreams ) and I think this has more to do with Pluto opposing Venus.
He has been betrayed&hurt in the past and even said this to me. He seems easily hurt.
I know the only real way to make it work is unconditional love. Emotionally he appears so childlike at certain moments.

Thanks once again for a really good posts
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