Do conjunct planets share aspects?

[byjove]

Hi all! I've read some astrologers arguing that when two planets conjunct receive aspects indepenent of the other due to orbs, they still receive the partner's aspects. Yet, despite the long red lines many chart generators create between conjunct planets and aspects, they often don't show the shared aspects in the grid. When you see conjuct planets, do you see their relations as shared or independent? Hmm...

[cassanra]

That is a really good question and from what I understand is that, in aspects, if one planet is aspected then it sort of lights up the rest thus, I have a stellium of venus 7' 30 degrees, mars 7 '49 and uranus 13'30 in Leo but when venus is transited it energizes the total stellium.
Now with mine venus and mars are aspected by neptune by square at 4 degrees Scorpio yet uranus is out of range really and does not aspect uranus by square yet because you cannot really separate the energies and they interblend uranus is energied. The sun and moon form semisquares to venus and mars but uranus is out of range but as the three are connected I can expect by transit unpredictable energies.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by byjove

Hi all! I've read some astrologers arguing that when two planets conjunct receive aspects indepenent of the other due to orbs, they still receive the partner's aspects. Yet, despite the long red lines many chart generators create between conjunct planets and aspects, they often don't show the shared aspects in the grid. When you see conjuct planets, do you see their relations as shared or independent? Hmm...

I tend to agree with Cass, it's all in the maths, the tighter the orb/closeness the more effect will be felt throughout the 3.

If you can manually plot your transits online with www.khaldea.com it's 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing. Mostly it's felt on the exact and then 1' off influence.

By the way you pic in your signature has expired. If you repost, try make sure you block out personal data.....

[starlink]

Yes, I agree with Cassandra. When one planet in a conjunction, a close conjunction!, no more than 5° orb I would give it, is being aspected by a third planet, I believe that both planets will be influenced by that planet.
The conjunction by itself shows a togetherness of energies, a blending of it, so when a third influence touches it, that blend will get a "jolt" from that third planet and will change the basic blend of the conjunction.

[gaer]

If two or more planets are conjunct, I would consider another planet in aspect to all those planets if:

1) It forms a major aspect to the planets that are conjunct.
2) It is not outside that planets that are "on the outside".

As an example:

If Moon is 5 Aries, Mercucy is 8 Aries, and Moon is 11 Aries, I would consider another planet at 8 degrees of Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius or Aquarius to be very powerful in relationship to the conjunction, since Mercury is right at the center (midpoint). I would consider the same other planet less strong at 5 or 11 degrees because it would not make the same energy connection with all three planets.

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by cassanra

That is a really good question and from what I understand is that, in aspects, if one planet is aspected then it sort of lights up the rest thus, I have a stellium of venus 7' 30 degrees, mars 7 '49 and uranus 13'30 in Leo but when venus is transited it energizes the total stellium.
Now with mine venus and mars are aspected by neptune by square at 4 degrees Scorpio yet uranus is out of range really and does not aspect uranus by square yet because you cannot really separate the energies and they interblend uranus is energied. The sun and moon form semisquares to venus and mars but uranus is out of range but as the three are connected I can expect by transit unpredictable energies.

Yes Uranus is a wide conjunction to your Venus and Mars wth a six degree orb. Some astrologers would not even use it. As Uranus and Neptune are outer planets there may be little personal effect. THe semi squares I would not even use really. Unless they are exact at 45 degrees and hitting planets that are a strong influence in your chart. i.e. I have Leo Sun semi square Venus in Libra exact and I do use that but mindful it is only a rather weak influence. Dont forget transits have to have an echo in the natal chart but not necessarily the same aspect. I say this over and over and some people will try to analyse a transit that has no bearing on the natal or birth chart aspects. Remember nothing can happen that is not foretold in the birth chart. In this way we are fated largely and do not have the free will we think we do, although it feels like we do. So I guess that is what matters.

[gaer]

I would do this, assuming you are talking about your natal chart:

Uranus/Neptune is square but a bit over 9 degrees. For such slow-moving planets, that suggests to me that the relationship between them, by itself, is not personal at all.

However, Neptune/Mars is just a bit over 3 degrees. (Assuming I am looking at the correct chart for you.) And of course Neptune/Venus is about the same. I think that because of the tight Venus/Mars conjunction, and the fact that this conjunction is applying to Uranus, I want to keep a feeling of energy between Neptune and the whole three planet group. But the connection would be much more powerful (in my opinion) if Neptune were about 10 degrees Scorpio, since then it would be squaring midpoints. And as Claire mentioned, the conjunction between Venus/Mars and Uranus is about 6 degrees, already rather large.

[byjove]

Ah ha, I see. Yep, I'm mostly concerned with the nativity. In my natal, I've Saturn conjunct Uranus. 5.3 orb Both trine my Sun, Saturn is exact but the real personalisation is Saturn being squared by both Venus and Luna, and Saturn is my 7th ruler. Uranus receives none of this, aspecting Mercury conjunct MC by square instead. Also, Uranus quincunx AC, Saturn bi-quintile AC. I'm not convinced they share aspects in me, but it makes sense to me that they should. It's a puzzle.

[AnnaViolet7]

I reckon even if the aspects dont effect both planets there is still a modification in the energy of the way the planet that is aspected works cos of the conjunction....and you would think that if a contact is made to one planet the one in conj would recieve some kind of knock on effect??maybe...

I have Saturn 4 deg Libra and Jupiter 3 deg Libra so most of the aspects are the same...I have been thinking about how this will play out at Saturn rx as Im thinking either the Jupiter effect will soften things, bring more benefits from the rx OR will make any difficulties with the rx seem bigger..