Nyker last round: Marriage?

tikana · #1 02-23-2009, 08:12 PM

hi peeps

Okaaaay

now i am getting really into "cant fool horary!"

my friend who is dating this NYker, she istrying to get him to move to California been telling for the last 10 minutes that her parents are against her just moving in with him cause of religion/cultural issues.
I figured what the hell... lets pull a chart after she just randomly blabbered "will i marry him this year?" ..

Fine by me.. i love horary so ..

29 deg Gemini - rising - HAHHAHAHAHA i think she knows the answer!
AND then i just looked at desc.. Remember in the last chart it had pluto on desc? Well,,, here it is again!
right smacked on his desc!
I dont know if it a good thing or bad thing... but this guy has to be in charge of everything.. that is just him!
sooo
Moon in 9th house house of marriage / ceremonies - i'd say chart is very much valid
moving on to Merc/jupiter
just like Moulin's chart, jupiter is peregrine and has some reception to Mercury - well .. looks like he is very into the girl..but peregrine and entering cadent house ..
Now.. fun begins with Mercury
Mercury roflmao is in MR with saturn house of marriage AND strong by term and face but DOES not see Jupiter at all, which could have helped jupiter from being saved from a peregrineness
i figured MOON - moon is VOID will conj sun which is a ruler of his 9th house... AGAIn .. i think he is moving in ! behheheheh.
i keep telling her He is moving in .. she thinks i am nuts.. not that i mind but cant fool horary!
merc will sextile venus at the end and then conj mars. I think they are getting married just not as fast as she think..
i do not know the guy never met him but i have to say this judging upon this pluto on desc - this guy will act so fast and direct straight to the point that will shock everyone. There is a reason why pluto is on desc 2nd or 3rd chart on this issue
anyone wants to agree or disagree, be my guest. I just keep seeing the same thing!

gracias
T

Moulin · #2 02-23-2009, 08:22 PM

Tik, can you explain why this question allows the moon to conjunct sun and is a yes and not mine!

The charts are almost identical. Surely if the conjunction is a few degrees off it's a no? and isn't the moon VOC?

tikana · #3 02-23-2009, 08:25 PM

Moulin

they are not identical!

1. Yours has Saturn retro in 1st house - bad news!
2. moon is somewhat within orb with the sun .. than yours.. your just just VOID.. for 20 degrees or something

This chart as Moon/Sun 13-14 degrees
your has 15 degrees ...

plus the question was direct about a marriage.

T

Moulin · #4 02-23-2009, 08:29 PM

well 21 degrees and 5 degree orb and mine is 20 and 5. Not a lot of difference!
Also wouldn't saturn rx in 4th house mean a no? What orb do you allow please?

tikana · #5 02-23-2009, 08:46 PM

Moulin

sorry it is not 20 degrees

it is 15 something

orbs for moon/sun is 13-14

that is according to Louis

T

Moulin · #6 02-23-2009, 08:49 PM

well on my chart

moon 20' 26
sun 5' 17

I don't see 15 on your chart

tikana · #7 02-23-2009, 08:56 PM

Moulin

look

you asked .. IS he the one...

this girl asked Will i and him get married? see the difference in a quesitons?

T

Moulin · #8 02-23-2009, 08:59 PM

Sorry Tik,
I know im a pain and driving you insane but no, l don't see much of a difference between "is he the RIGHT man for me (to date)" and "will we get married" !

They are both a yes or no answer and you are saying YES to yours and NO to mine even though the planet degrees are so similar so l am only trying to understand, cos l really don't

Don't be mad at me

tikana · #9 02-23-2009, 09:01 PM

here is the thing

i am not mad.. i wish i was

but i am trying to explain to you

you have a bigger disadvantage with all the stuff we talked about

but there is a difference..

my friend can say "i do " and file for a divorce for god sake the next day
she is not asking about the outcome of the marriage
she is jus tasking .. will i get married to him

you are asking "is he the one!"

that is the difference

T

Moulin · #10 02-23-2009, 09:04 PM

ok then someone has misunderstood my question cos im not asking "is he the one" as in life partner or soul mate.

I will take my conjunct the same way you have then as it seems that if l had asked "will we have a relationship" it would be a yes LOL

tikana · #11 02-23-2009, 09:08 PM

Now

where is my shot gun?!

is this the right man for me?

That is what you asked!

there is no question about Marriage/datng ANYWHERE in your posts

Yours has saturn in 1st house retro

T

Moulin · #12 02-23-2009, 09:10 PM

LOL sorry.

I meant the right one for me to date as l have 2 of them and need to chose. I don't want to chose a dud with my track record

!!!!

Next time l will ask "will l marry him"... take care Tik x

tikana · #13 02-23-2009, 09:11 PM

please someone give a shot gun!

T

tikana · #14 02-23-2009, 09:17 PM

Thanks!

actually funny you say that
but her mom wants her to get married so she can be a grandma! Dad is absent.. the rest of the relatives are like a bunch of herd of sheep begging for her to have a family!
lol

they just want her to get them to be grandparent/babysitters and etc.. they think if they dont get married then she might not want to have kids

16-18 months sounds just about right... if you ask me

i just dont think this is this year.. merc/venus sextiling venus rules dating..

thanks again
T

tikana · #15 02-23-2009, 09:34 PM

Dunno

i think she knows that it wont be this year.. we have looked at her natal chart i did not see a marriage...
maybe that is hwy there is late asce

16-18 weeks is def off .. that is like .. hmm 4 months!
and to get to organize wedding is about 3-4 months alone.. even if it is small one

thanks
T

Moulin · #16 02-23-2009, 09:40 PM

ok Tik, thanks for explaining and sorry. I didn't really think about the question for long enough.

barbh · #17 02-24-2009, 05:20 PM

Hi Tik

Merc is applying to Jupiter....she is applying to him and the ruler of his 4th, on the cusp of her 9th house of long travel. I think she will marry him, but with the moon void and only applying to conjunct an out of sign Sun....something has to happen before the marriage happens. Living together makes sense. But, since she is applying to him and his 4th, I think she will move there. Even though she's cadent, making it a weak placement, she is in her own terms and face. He's cadent too...maybe the placement makes it too weak for anything to happen? New moons are considered malefic in horary. 29 degrees rising too. No marriage right away, something else has to happen first.

barbh

RayAustin · #18 02-24-2009, 05:44 PM

I see a yes .. but I don't think a conjunction from moon to sun is anything to look forwards to, especially since it's not a primary significator. It's a good thing that Merc and Jupiter are accidentally in the ninth, otherwise the conjunction in the eighth would be pretty bad. Anyway.. since she's the applying planet, and the end of matter ruler, I see that she gets pushy (maybe even a bridezilla?

) A venus in the fifth always looks a little suspicious, by the way.

tikana · #19 02-24-2009, 06:16 PM

Thanks girls!

i am in the court for jury duty

so cant really talk much

Barb YES you are right.. moon void does spook me a bit
to me that is like eeeehhhh not right away. AND YES something has to happen.. say him and her moving in or but if you look at the chart you will notice the same pattern as the previous chart "is he moving in" To me to be honest ... he will move with her on temp basis then they will go back to his NY.. if you look closer the dude just does not want to leave NY ... his ruler is in his 3rd house and i think sun is in his 4th house.. i cant see the charts.

Immidiate future looks like shows that he is the one that is moving in then if anything .. she will move there .. i love moving charts!
Tik

RayAustin · #20 02-24-2009, 06:34 PM

How do you see that he's moving, when she's the two applying planets?

tikana · #21 02-24-2009, 08:49 PM

Hi

well .. if you go back to a thread with "if NYker moving in: forclosure?" it is in this board.. you will see that he was saturn sitting in her 4th house.. but what is interestng is that saturn was retro .. as AG said he is going back .. so possibly they will be able to retain both properties .. her home here and his home in NY(or buy another home)

T

sparklyskies · #22 03-02-2009, 01:00 PM

amazing.....so if my natal progression charts states clearly that I have the moon in the 9th at the end of this year, I am getting married?

RayAustin · #23 03-02-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sparklyskies

amazing.....so if my natal progression charts states clearly that I have the moon in the 9th at the end of this year, I am getting married?

No, I don't think that one placement can possibly say marriage.