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02-22-2009, 10:51 PM
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Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
I just looked up my solar return chart for 2009-10, and it features my Ascendant in the last few degrees of Sag, with the Pluto in opposition to the Sun on the 7th-house side of the Descendant. To add to this, it is making a t-square to Uranus in 3rd. What kind of energies could I see from this? My birthdata is:
6/21/1947 11:51PM Providence, RI. USA
I know that in TRANSITING Pluto opposition the Sun any number of scenarios can be in effect, like power struggles with authorities, other people opposing you, massively-increased ambition, or the stepping into one's true power as an individual. I do have transiting Pluto in my 10th, opposing my Sun in 4th, so I guess with this solar return it got moved to the Ascendant-Descendant axis. For me, with this transit, since I live very privately even in the midst of a good-sized city, I do have a pretty private life, just attending to my painting and metaphysical interests. I am no longer in the job market, being in my early 60s, and I'm in good health(due to longer-term lifestyle choices over the years). I don't engage in a huge social life, being introverted by nature and need a lot of quiet time when I am not out and about. Reason I mention these things is that it seems that so far, Pluto has been doing its work more on an inner level lately. I already HAD the outer disruption when it proceeded to oppose my natal Uranus several times(ended up moving multiple times within a short period of time).
If anyone wants to take a peek, that would be great. Hoping I am not facing huge difficulty this coming year! I'm very happy in both my marriage and my location, BTW. Again, thanks for listening here!
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02-23-2009, 10:26 AM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Cara, I wrote an article about Solar Returns, which might be helpul to you.
The link below will bring you to it:
How to interpret a Solar Return Chart
You must see the SR chart next to the natal chart. This is very important.
Would it be possible for you to upload both for us to see? That would be very helpful and easier for others to comment on your SR chart. Here is a link on how to upload a chart:
 Sticky: Attaching Chart as a Thumbnail!
Thanks!
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02-23-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Hi starlink!
Just checked out the article, but didn't see anything about Pluto. Good article in general though, although some of the stuff went over my head a little bit. Still learning about what's fixed, mutable, cardinal, etc.
Anyway, I've attached both my natal and solar return charts here - thanks for any further input!
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02-25-2009, 08:22 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
That looks simliar to my solar return chart for this year. Sagittarius rising conj. pluto. I believe it could mean change and transformation physically. I got my nose done, my skin dramaticly changed this year and I've been taking breast enchancment pills (they work).. haha.. too much information but, thats what the pluto on the ascendant could mean.
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02-25-2009, 09:02 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Well in Equal house, uranus, venus and sun are in 4th. Were you thinking about moving house?
Will PM you pluto in 1st cos cannot remember author, so therefore cannot post...
So you SR asc falls in your natal 10th house of career, social standing etc.
This years chart lacks fire, so you may find you have less energy at your disposal. Moon square saturn, may have to endure some financial hardships, connected to work or be restless with co-workers and withdraw from them a bit.
Uranus in late 3rd conj 4th house cusp, may suggest disruptions, upheavals at home or someone poss moving, talking or actually doing it.
Natally only 1earth, but this SR 4th in earth so much more practical hands on, reliable, dependable, great for finishing tasks, projects etc.
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02-26-2009, 11:22 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Hi all - thanks for the input so far. No, I wasn't thinking of moving - in fact, I am VERY happy where I am. You see, for several years, my husband and I had to move 14 times while we were still living in New Mexico, and the 15th move got us here back to our beloved city of San Francisco. We have an amazing arrangement that allows us to live inexpensively in a very expensive city for housing too. If we did not have this situation, we would not be able to afford to live here at all. We're in a great and convenient neighborhood too.
As far as the Pluto on the Ascendant, I have no plans for plastic surgery or the like - I prefer to utilize natural means to enhance, like an extremely clean diet, solid fitness training, and natural skincare(NOT into anti-aging stuff here at all due to sensitive skin issues). But this part has been ongoing for years anyway, with refinements along the way. Over the last year I have been following a predominantly-raw vegan diet, which agrees with me hugely! I'm hoping this Pluto part will be positive though, as I am very health-conscious. We will be travelling in mid-May for a couple of weeks to Hawaii(a real power place for me) - will that make a difference in the solar return reading or not, or would that travel actually have to be on one's birthday?
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02-26-2009, 11:27 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Forgot to add that actually, I have been keeping things pretty private, not caring to socialize very much at all - this has been going on for about a year, actually, in a sifting-out process in that I just can't be socializing anymore with people I don't have much in common with. I'd rather stay home than do that. I just don't have the psychic energy to deal with anyone other than very close friends(they live distant from me, pretty much)and my husband. Should probably make more of an effort, but simply don't feel like it, so I don't. As far as income, I am out of the job market, and don't really need to make money right now. My husband and I live very simply, even in a large city. We don't want much either. Prefer to just pursue my art, as I always have...
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02-27-2009, 09:07 AM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
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Forgot to add that actually, I have been keeping things pretty private........etc.
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Cara, may I remind you that some astrological info here is actually required? personal information is OK as long as it is short and backed up by aspects or transits. So you think that Pluto causes you to be more selective with others? What else could cause this right now , looking at your chart you think?
Re-routing to astrology 
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02-27-2009, 07:44 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Sorry - I was just trying to tell what is going on in my life to fill in as far as the direction that the astrology is taking. About the dropping off of friends though, maybe tr. Saturn in 7th?
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02-27-2009, 10:02 PM
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About the dropping off of friends though, maybe tr. Saturn in 7th?
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Yes, that would be a strong indication of "limiting" yourself when it comes to relationships. Which planet rules your 11th house of friends? Also very important to look at. Maybe that planet is being aspected by that transiting Saturn or maybe, by progression it has entered the 12th house. Something like that. Is there any planet going through your 11th house? Saturn is at 19° Virgo right now, so if Virgo is the sign on your 7th house, then your 11th could be Aries? or Pisces? Uranus is transiting Pisces and always has to do with changing situations. Have a look at your chart again.
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02-27-2009, 10:58 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
"Yes, that would be a strong indication of "limiting" yourself when it comes to relationships. Which planet rules your 11th house of friends? Also very important to look at. Maybe that planet is being aspected by that transiting Saturn or maybe, by progression it has entered the 12th house. Something like that. Is there any planet going through your 11th house? Saturn is at 19° Virgo right now, so if Virgo is the sign on your 7th house, then your 11th could be Aries? or Pisces? Uranus is transiting Pisces and always has to do with changing situations. Have a look at your chart again." - starlink
You can see my chart earlier in this thread...
Anyhow, on the cusp of my 11th house is Capricorn, a few degrees in I believe, with the first few degrees in the 10th, so Cap straddles the second half of the 10th house(which in my natal chart is a very small house, just as the 4th is), and a good part of the 11th. If I am not mistaken, Saturn does rule Capricorn. I have no natal planets in 11th, only Black Moon Lilith is natally there, opposing Mercury in 5th(Cancer). My Descendant is at 5 Virgo, Ascendant at 5 Pisces, so indeed, tr. Saturn is well into the 7th. The last time it was there, indeed, I had moved away from friends, and was having trouble finding new ones, when I relocated from NYC to SF the first time. Tr. Uranus has been in my first for some time now, and indeed, I have gotten to be more countercultural, not less, as I get older. Tr. Uranus will continue to be in my 1st, furthermore for a good while, as the first 15 degrees of Aries is also there, since my both my 1st AND 7th houses are large ones, as are my 6th and 12th, if you take a look at my attached natal chart earlier in this thread. Since I moved here, even my dress has changed somewhat to more of a colorful and more expressive one, and I color my hair with more red in it, and let it grow out into more riotous curls! Just because tr. Pluto is in Cap, I refuse to go all conservative and sober-looking! In NM, it was pretty much of a jeans and t-shirt life, and I did not wear makeup there except for special occasions - now I enjoy it every day! Not bad for a 61-year old, and I can get away with it too because I look a lot younger than I am, due to excellent health habits.
More about the 11th house - it seems that when Jupiter was there, I had a lot of contact with distant friends(which I still do)who I hadn't heard from for awhile, plus I got into more activity with online groups. One of whom is my very best friend ever from late high school, in fact one of my only TRUE friends.
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02-28-2009, 01:03 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
You can see my chart earlier in this thread...
OOPS, of course, sorry, I scrolled so far down I forgot about it.
I see it clearly now. I must have been blind!
Anyhow, on the cusp of my 11th house is Capricorn, a few degrees in I believe, with the first few degrees in the 10th, so Cap straddles the second half of the 10th house(which in my natal chart is a very small house, just as the 4th is), and a good part of the 11th. If I am not mistaken, Saturn does rule Capricorn. Yes it does.
indeed, tr. Saturn is well into the 7th. The last time it was there, indeed, I had moved away from friends, and was having trouble finding new ones, when I relocated from NYC to SF the first time. it obviously does play a role then when transiting your 7th.
At this age with the Uranus return, many people become less socially active I think. Changing location and starting building new relationships is far more difficult.
Tr. Uranus has been in my first for some time now.Since I moved here, even my dress has changed somewhat to more of a colorful and more expressive one, and I color my hair with more red in it, and let it grow out into more riotous curls! Very Uranian. I know that when Uranus hits the Ascendant people change their hairstyle frequently.
More about the 11th house - it seems that when Jupiter was there, I had a lot of contact with distant friends(which I still do)who I hadn't heard from for awhile, plus I got into more activity with online groups. One of whom is my very best friend ever from late high school, in fact one of my only TRUE friends
I looked at your progressed chart. right now you have progressed Moon in Scorpio at 21° square Progr. Mercury (who is ruler of your 7th house, but also ruler of your progressed 1st house!). That progressed Moon could have shown your move because it has entered your natal 9th house and about 1.5 years ago conjuncted your Jupiter, traditional ruler of your Ascendant, but also modern ruler of your MC (social surrounding).
Progressed Saturn (at 14° Leo) is conjunct natal Moon and Pluto. This could have dampened your Moon a bit and makes you more quiet and needing more privacy. He also squares your natal Jupiter, ruler of your 10th house. I think this is significant because indeed the Solar Return Ascendant falls in your natal 10th, putting focus on that house. It shows re-establishing yourself again but not without some difficulties (as probably finding it difficult meeting new friends).
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In astrology we have Fire, Water, Earth and Air signs, but also Fixed, Mutable and Cardinal modes. 4 signs belong to each of the modes.
Fixed shows a tendency to stay put, not wanting to let go, stubborn attitude
Mutable is flexible, needs for change but more superficial than fixed
Cardinal signs are ambitious and real doers.
Cardinal signs are: Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn
Mutable signs: Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces
Fixed signs are: Taurus, Leo, Aquarius and Scorpio.
Must prepare dinner for guests now.
Cheers, Starlink
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02-28-2009, 02:53 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Solars are difficult in that they look at a whole year in advance and sometimes things change in a year that we do not expect thus looking at a solar is like looking through a dark glass....we can only get glimpses. Generally the three times rule is used to corroborate indicators thus we should see the same theme at least three times not only in solars but as Starlink has indicated your progressed chart as well as solar arcs and then the transits themselves.
In your solar you have your 10th house rising. It is pretty far into the 10th so you might want to also look at the 11th house too. Since sag. rules your 10th you look for jupiter. You also look at the 10th house of the solar and its opposite, the 4th. This axis is magnified by the return.
I look for repeat aspects so in your case Pluto is an important planet as it is prominent as is the sun. They are close to an angle, quite close, so their importance is magnified. You look at thier aspects in the solar chart as well as what they aspected in your natal. If you see a repeat aspect then you know that a natal potential is manifesting. In your case Pluto is again in aspect to jupiter which is ruler of the solar chart. This is a key dynamic. Pluto in the first always points to a personal transformation. It has positive aspects to jupiter BUT jupiter natally is in a challenging aspect to pluto. We might see a resolve of an old issues. Since jupiter is in second of finance and self-worth we might suspect that you will undergo a positive personal transformation connected to self-worth or finance. Since jupiter rules your natal 10th this might indicate that this will in some way affect your public reputation, work or interaction with authority.
The sun in the 7th is a focus on partnerships and we see that reflected in the venus mars conjunct in the 5th of children, creativity, pleasure and romance. The sun trines the jupiter/neptune position so this is a positive indicator of your ego change. The sun is in positive aspect with neptune again, a repeat pattern from natal. Since neptune is a long transitting planet you probably have been experiencing this energy for some time but now it is in your 2nd house. Pluto and the suns energy are not doing so well together and Pluto is also power and manipulation. You have already been experiencing this to some degree as again, Pluto is a slow moving planet. It has passed your sun already but its energy is still lingering. The sun can also represent a male in your life so there may have been some subtle power struggles in a relationship or partnership. Pluto is not so overt but more psychological thus this energy has had a separating affect on relationships and partnerships. Pluto rules your 11th house of friendships, hopes, and wishes. Plutos energy is transformational in its positive side. Since jupiter also rules your 12th solar house of the unconscious we might also say that this could be an expansion of the unconsious affecting your outward manifestation.
I see too that Uranus and the sun are at odds with each other and this energy is a recurrent aspect natallly as the sun and uranus conjoin. The square in communication or third house indicates abrupt changes in communication or arguments with siblings or partnership. This will be sudden, unexpected, disrupting.
The moon in the sixth combined with the ruler of the 6th is a double focus on health, daily habits, hygiene and co-workers. It is receiving some challenges. The moon is change and emotion. Gemini rules your seventh too and mercury is greatly challenged by Saturn and Jupiter.
We really look at two moons in a solar. The placement of the natal moon in the solar as well as the solar moon. The natal moon is in the solar 8th house indicative of your emotions being connected to 8th house issues such as transformation, rebirth, death, etc.
Saturn square of your moon is a constraint on your emotions, a dampening, a frustration. You would want to be quiet. It also affects mercury natural ruler of communication and mind or mental acitivities. The jupiter square may mean an expansion of that state of emotion maybe an indication of depression. It may be connection to the change in diet as saturn again is restricitve and jupiter is expansion and squaring the mercury in the 6t house. Your seventh house ruler is twice affected as mercury rules your natal 7th and your solar.
I would sugges looking at your lunars over up to three months prior to your june solar return. Look at last years solar and see the connections and look at the lunars as they play the story out. Repeat themes will be evident. As an example. My last years solar has uranus in the second squaring venus and the sun on the cusp of the 6th. My finances have been chaotic this year due to my ex-husband changing jobs erratically and child support being erratic. I have been keeping an eye on the 2/8 axis through out the year in my lunars and seem to be able to predict when he is going to quit his jobs so I am cautious.
I am sorry to go on and on but this is a learning experience for me too as I have made it my mission to learn solars over the last year or so. Uranus has been squaring my sun and opposing moon. I saw the aspect coming and wanted to try to get a heads up.
As an aside, i would pay attention to my mates chart including his progressed. Since thier is a heavy emphasis on partnerships and the ruler is under fire it would be better to be safe and keep an eye on him
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02-28-2009, 03:21 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Hi cassandra!
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed analysis! The part I can MOST identify with is the need to be quiet - this has been coming on big-time in the last year or so, and I was already somewhat that way in the years leading up as well. The part about career and issues of money/self-worth, I don't know. Maybe that would apply to someone who is younger than I am, as I am OUT of the whole career racket. That's been reinforced by tr. Pluto in 10th over the last 7 years too, that also acted as a supreme domestic disruptor(15 moves within 3.5 years, the last of which was a fortunate relocation here to SF). These days I just do my art privately - you should check out my websites below to see where I am with this. I live pretty simply on little money, and it's perfect for me. In fact, as I go along and evolve, I head MORE towards simplicity in many things, not less, truly finding it a relief to keep it simple on so many levels, in my case. Even my diet is getting simpler, which is fabulous for me, and involves a lot less trouble. Maybe the Saturn-Moon connection you mention is part of this too, plus the fact that I DO have Saturn-Pluto-Moon conjunct natally in 6th.
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02-28-2009, 04:33 PM
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Re: Solar return with Pluto on Ascendant opp.Sun in 7th
Great stuff...
Yes, yes, apply the energy to your own situation and explore it from there. The planets and houses are only indicators...only broader contexts of the energy. The sun on an angle though is indicative of a significant year ahead and you should feel these energies fairly soon around your birth date as the sun is in an angle.
Good luck and your art is wonderful. Thank you for sharing.
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