Good astrologers! please help. Synastry grand trines involving chiron and juno

stinkypuffs · #1 02-05-2009, 07:52 PM

Ive found a few different combinations for grand trines involving me and my girl. The planets involved with their signs and degrees are as follows:

My moon Pisces 19.15
My Pluto in scorpio 19.23
My chiron in Cancer 26.54

Her Mars in Cancer 23.16
Her Pluto in scorpio 24.23
Her Juno in Cancer 12.13

I usually use tight orbs with aspects, but ive been told that when 3 planets are involved an orb of up to 8 is allowable. So the combinations ive found are as follows:

My moon, her mars, my pluto
My moon, her mars, her pluto
My chiron, my moon, her pluto,
Her juno, my moon, my pluto

Can anyone help me interpret these? What do these grand trines mean with respect to the planets involved?

freedomlover · #2 02-05-2009, 08:23 PM

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Ive found a few different combinations for grand trines involving me and my girl. The planets involved with their signs and degrees are as follows:

My moon Pisces 19.15
My Pluto in scorpio 19.23
My chiron in Cancer 26.54

Her Mars in Cancer 23.16
Her Pluto in scorpio 24.23
Her Juno in Cancer 12.13

I usually use tight orbs with aspects, but ive been told that when 3 planets are involved an orb of up to 8 is allowable. So the combinations ive found are as follows:

My moon, her mars, my pluto
My moon, her mars, her pluto
My chiron, my moon, her pluto,
Her juno, my moon, my pluto

Can anyone help me interpret these? What do these grand trines mean with respect to the planets involved?

Stickypuffs,

Taking the high road, if you two are both committed to the spiritual path - these grand trines can be utilized for much forgiveness, understanding, and compassion- and true healing of the emotional issues that you have both brought into the relationship - particularly "mother" issues.

Now for the things to watch out for:

These grand trines can manifest as a "She and I live in our own little world" aspect. You each see each other as your source of love and mothering. But watch out for the hidden side - Pluto in Scorpio is in there and the Scorpion has a sting! The downside ( the "sting" can manifest as possessiveness and control )- There are alot of "mother issues" and emotional wounds in there,as well. One or the other ( or maybe both) are wanting the other to give them mothering, and a lot of emotional manipulation can be going on. Mars in Cancers almost always have a struggle with "mothering" issues. Her Mars in Cancer is conjunct your Chiron in Cancer.

Also, with her Juno in Cancer, she may really fit into a role as "your mother", and you may consciously or subconsciously want this. Not only emotional issues, but being "taken care of like Mom did, or you wish she did, or you expected she would". One trait of Pisces archetype (archetype - not picking on Sun signs here!) is to rest and be lazy while others take care of them -- typical of a child who doesn't want to grow up and do chores - wants the perpetual mother to do the work for them. Also, Pisces sometimes doesn't recognize when a person is trying to manipulate them with emotional issues because of "rose-colored" glasses - seeing what they want to see. So, it would be good if you could do a "self-check" in these two areas.

These are things to watch out for. But, taking the high road, if you two are very spiritual people - these same grand trines can be utilized for much forgiveness, understanding, and compassion- and true healing of the emotional issues that you have both brought into the relationship.

FL

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stinkypuffs · #3 02-06-2009, 07:23 PM

Hey anyone else out there have a take on this?
someone else suggested we ought to be careful about a "third person" because the "moon and planet are always in a different orbit"
i dont know what she meant by that and she was terrible with English.

as it were, we were having trouble with a third person -- her ex. He was trying to get her back and trying to interfere with our relationship. Does anyone see how these grand trines are indicative of something like that?

and again, if anyone has anything to add, please do.

Hey FreedomLover, you mentioned that my Chiron conjuncts her mars. I know that Chiron is related to emotional healing and also sexuality... does that mean this is a sexual aspect at all considering that mars is involved as well? Does this have any further effects?

mm..that may be incorrect... I read from the magi society that juno forms super sexual aspects with pluto venus and mars. Would that apply to the grand trine above as well? what does the inclusion of the moon between juno and mars mean?

astrologer50 · #4 02-08-2009, 12:02 PM

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freedomlover · #5 02-08-2009, 09:23 PM

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Hey FreedomLover, you mentioned that my Chiron conjuncts her mars. I know that Chiron is related to emotional healing and also sexuality... does that mean this is a sexual aspect at all considering that mars is involved as well? Does this have any further effects?

mm..that may be incorrect... I read from the magi society that juno forms super sexual aspects with pluto venus and mars. Would that apply to the grand trine above as well? what does the inclusion of the moon between juno and mars mean?

Stinkypuffs,

As to your Chiron in Cancer conjunct her Mars in Cancer.... I would interpret that as more of emotional intimacy, instead of sexual intimacy. Mars in Cancer often has sexual issues unless there is emotional intimacy in place first. Cancer ( and its polarity - Capricorn) issues would be highlighted in this as well - fears of rejection, boundaries, blocked emotions, etc. So, this could be a sexual aspect - after the other issues are resolved.

I'm totally unfamiliar with Magi Society, so I cannot comment on what they say about things. However, as to your question about "Moon between Juno and Mars".... I still see this ( as well, as other planetary trines mentioned) as having to do with emotional issues, probably due to each person's relationship to their own mother, coming up. There could possibly be alot of anger released in the relationship as these issues get "triggered" by the other, with Mars and Pluto being involved. Still the grand trines in water show a great potential for healing of said issues - IF you both want to "work it".

Hope that helps,

FL