shared planet rulings

[Maries]

What would happen astrologically if they discovered a new planet ?(which I believe they have) Astrology has Venus, for example, sharing both Libra and Taurus and Mercury sharing Gemini and Virgo. Did every sign at some time in the past have its own ruling planet? Makes sense to me! And what would happen astrologically if a planet blew up? What would happen if a meteor hit, say, Jupiter? How would it affect our planet?

Maries

[Draco]

Hi Maries,

I think if they discover a new planet, as they did with Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, then I think it will make for some really interesting speculaton as to what it may represent. Apparently, there is a new planet which they are calling 'Xena', but I'm not keen on that name because it ruins the harmonious order of all the planets being named after Roman deities . But then, I'm a Virgo, with a very strongly dignified Saturn conjunct Mercury in Libra, so the harmonious ordering of things is a big deal to me. :?

Far more interesting is the question of what would happen to astrology if one of the main planets was to blow up. Now that would be a nightmare for astrology. Also, it would send the orbits of the solar system totally out of kilter (upsetting the harmonious order) and then I imagine that the Earth's orbit would be affected, so it would probably mean extinction for us. In such a case there wouldn't be any astrologers left anyway. Perhaps this is how the world will eventually end?

Draco

[Summery Joy]

There's a theory that there once was a planet between Mars and Jupiter. The distance between the two planets is so large that it's out of proportion compared to the rest of planetary distances. Anyway, the theory is that that planet existed but somehow got destroyed and left those asteroids, like Juno and Ceres, that modern astrologers use to fine tue the energies of the major planets.

Anyway, if a planet blew up now, the immediate effects would be material in nature. I'm pretty sure it would do something to the orbit of the Earth, let alone what could happen to tides and dead volcanoes. I'm no astronomer, so I don't know the magnitude of such thing, but our solar system (and the whole universe mind you) is held together harmoniously. If something disappeared all of a sudden, a phase of great unbalance would be the least that could happen.

However, if humanity managed to survive that, life would go on. It's not like we would lose our sexual urges if Mars blew up! But we would suffer from unbalance and shifts in energies until we find a way to adapt, for we would adapt.

[CapAquaPis]

My apologies to bringing up the old topic on Juno, but only a handful of astrologers consider Juno to have a planetoid quality to effect the zodiac, and new theories on where to designate Juno - daughter of Zeus- to rule in the astrological zodiac...are worth the debate of celestial politics.

The planets Mars and Saturn as well the asteroid-planetoid Ceres seem to affect Virgo in the field of romantic passions for others (same applies in Cancer, Leo and Sagittarius with a Mars influence), and I suppose Ceres is making the sign Gemini tilt to Jupiter in its' liking, then made Taurus have a more Saturnian pull and Uranus to buck the horns of Jupiterian Aries.

To have Juno included as the child of Zeus or Jupiter of both Greek and Roman mythology, she's the congenial daughter to be found in Pisces or cause an influence on the new "signs" of Cetus, Ophiuchus, Orion/Sextans and Hydra/Draco, but then we placed Venus in Cancer, Virgo or Scorpio to give off feminine beauty (also shared by Ceres and Juno)...and Mercury in Leo or Libra, and Aries means youthful strength (again represented by Juno).

The order of planetary rulers if you suggested Juno in the end of the annual zodiac-In that order: Jupiter for Leo & Libra (victorious warrior), Saturn for Pisces or Cancer & Scorpio (the symbol of maternal fertility), Uranus for Gemini & Sagittarius (on opposite ends like the planet's 98 degree tilt axis), Neptune for Taurus & Capricorn, and Pluto for Aries & Aquarius.

The air signs Gemini and Libra are Venusian, which serves in Capricorn and Scorpio for romantic powers; the Mercurian nature in Sagittarius, Aquarius and Taurus can be noted; the suggestion of Mars could imbalance Libra and Pisces; and finally the end is the beginning represents Juno in Aries unless the signs following Sagittarius and Pisces ruled by its father planet permits his daughter the astrological role of this "planet" in the heavens.

[miquar]

Hi. I think that if anything happened in the Solar System then we'd have to interpret it symbolically as astrologers - as being synchronous with a shift in human consciousness.

I think that there is a lot less likelihood now of anything happening that would take out a planet.

Xena was renamed Eris some years ago, and in a talk I watched on You-tube, a top astronomer, whose name I don't recall, but who discovered Eris and many other bodies, said that statistically one would expect dozens more kuiper belt objects like Pluto and Eris to be discovered eventually. Eris' orbit is incredibly eliptical, and she is now at her closest to the Sun - if she'd been anywhere else in her orbit, they wouldn't have been able to spot her with current technology. So the astronomer speculated that there are probably many other kuiper belt objects that are too far away at the moment for us to see.

I'm increasingly seeing the old inner outer planet classification as limited. A part of me wants to classify them (astrologically) as follows.

1) Luminaries - Sun and Moon

2) Inner planets - Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars

3) Asteroids - e.g. Vesta, Juno

3) Giant planets - Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune

4) Kuiper belt objects - Pluto, Eris, Sedna, etc. (perhaps also Chiron due to its eliptical and inclined orbit which kuiper objects seem to share as a feature and which the other categories proposed above do not).

The realisation that Pluto is part of a large group of planets has accompanied the realisation that we are on the brink of killing ourselves and the rest of the biosphere unless we seriously change our attitudes and how we live.

[dr. farr]

Originally Posted by miquar

Hi. I think that if anything happened in the Solar System then we'd have to interpret it symbolically as astrologers - as being synchronous with a shift in human consciousness.

I think that there is a lot less likelihood now of anything happening that would take out a planet.

Xena was renamed Eris some years ago, and in a talk I watched on You-tube, a top astronomer, whose name I don't recall, but who discovered Eris and many other bodies, said that statistically one would expect dozens more kuiper belt objects like Pluto and Eris to be discovered eventually. Eris' orbit is incredibly eliptical, and she is now at her closest to the Sun - if she'd been anywhere else in her orbit, they wouldn't have been able to spot her with current technology. So the astronomer speculated that there are probably many other kuiper belt objects that are too far away at the moment for us to see.

I'm increasingly seeing the old inner outer planet classification as limited. A part of me wants to classify them (astrologically) as follows.

1) Luminaries - Sun and Moon

2) Inner planets - Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars

3) Asteroids - e.g. Vesta, Juno

3) Giant planets - Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune

4) Kuiper belt objects - Pluto, Eris, Sedna, etc. (perhaps also Chiron due to its eliptical and inclined orbit which kuiper objects seem to share as a feature and which the other categories proposed above do not).

The realisation that Pluto is part of a large group of planets has accompanied the realisation that we are on the brink of killing ourselves and the rest of the biosphere unless we seriously change our attitudes and how we live.

Interesting and though provoking!

[dhundhun]

Western Astrology is generous in including discovered Astronomical objects. It has included many in interpretations:

• Dwarf Planets: Ceres, Pluto, Hamuea, Makemake, Eris
• Minor Planets: Chiron, Sedna
• Asteroids: Pallas, Juno, Vesta, Hebe, Iris

however, sign rulership is quite different, rather complicated. Discovered objects has not been able to fully meet expectations. There has been reservations and alterations in their ownership, exaltation, etc.

As an example, this is a link to information about Pluto, which I posted few days ago:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...423#post392423