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01-13-2009, 01:00 PM
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Fixed signs how they operate
Just my personal opinions then....
Fixed signs hate to see anything unfinished, totally dedicated, salt of the Earth, reliable, responsible people. Of course they can be stubborn, unbending, dont like change and probably have more difficulty adapting than most. But most people's chart have something in there to offset this eg: mutuable sign on the Ascendant. ALL fixed signs have Staying Power!!! and without this nothing would get done or completed would it.....
Taurus dont like to see change for changes sake, it has to have a point, make something better or improved or what it the point. They dont like surprises either, like people on an even keel like themselves. Like food, highly sex, romantic affectionate loving demonstrative people, gardening (loads of fidelity as with all the fixed signs) can be lazy, but another way of looking at this is they can relax and enjoy life, smell the roses, dont like to rush into things. Weigh up the pros and cons. All the earth signs are doers, practical
Scorpio feel things deeply, love or hate, very private sign, secretive and play on peoples feelings (like all water signs) Make great dectives, researches gives great pleasure and satifaction at getting to the bottom of things. Highly sexed but only behind closed doors and lights out......  tendency to hold grudges to the grave sometimes and be bit vindictive. Always want the power and control and do almost anything to get it. There is no grey area with Scorpio, very black and white, feel things deeply and can hate deeply. Strong views, opinions and dont like changes cos it may show weakness, which is simply not acceptable.
Aquarius wants to talk and be friends with everyone. This is the only sign i know of that can stay friends with their Exs. Will give a viewpoint, opinion or belief easily thats where there stubborness lies, it has to have logic without too much emotion biase.They can be specialists, know topic indepth and can talk with authority on it. Very humanitarian, always fights the cause for the underdog. Wants and needs mental stimulation, thats why they need to socialise and talk.
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01-13-2009, 05:15 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
:O You forgot about MY people!!! :P
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01-13-2009, 05:42 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
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Originally Posted by Kaiousei no Senshi
:O You forgot about MY people!!! :P
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Sorry hon, just realised i forgot Leo. So if your Leo perhaps you would to add your thoughts....
Leo, strong leadership, wants to be centre of attention, huge amount of 'pride' very bossy, great organiser, sociable, extrovert. Wants thing done 'their way' or may have tantrum  or throw toys out of pram. Fixed stubborn that their way is possibly only correct way....
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01-13-2009, 07:47 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Eh, that's about right. You forgot strongly opinionated, everyone's worst enemy, but the life of the party nonetheless.
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01-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Having a stellium in both Aquarius and Scorpio I could say that fits me well. It's hard to think of Aquarius as fixed...I would say the one thing that doesn't change for me is always having an opinion about something and a need for things to always be in motion. Both Scorpio and Aquarius can either strengthen each other's weakness and be strong together or bring each other down. I experience both at different times =p
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01-13-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Say something nice about Sagittarius. Generaly, I dont like generalization, but some things (general rules) I found true.
Thanks in advance
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I prefere fixed and fire signs - for everything - cooperation, friendship, relationship - everything - not going well with water signs - so for me, general rules work. Somethimes, I dont even understand when a water sign talks to me - like about feelings and comfused situation or comfused thougts - I mean, i dont hear anything precise in that, anything that is a fact or reality. Sorry water signs. The only exception is Scorpio, very concrete and very to the point.
Natasa (Sagittarius with overemphasis on fire - I mean planets -in Natal chart)
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01-14-2009, 08:23 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
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Originally Posted by natasa812
Say something nice about Sagittarius. Generaly, I dont like generalization, but some things (general rules) I found true.
Thanks in advance
Best regards
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I prefere fixed and fire signs - for everything - cooperation, friendship, relationship - everything - not going well with water signs - so for me, general rules work. Somethimes, I dont even understand when a water sign talks to me - like about feelings and comfused situation or comfused thougts - I mean, i dont hear anything precise in that, anything that is a fact or reality. Sorry water signs. The only exception is Scorpio, very concrete and very to the point.
Natasa (Sagittarius with overemphasis on fire - I mean planets -in Natal chart)
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Well perhaps if you were to go to Mutable thread you could add your comments....which has now been moved to 'natal forum'
This thread was not meant as the divinitive last word, but starting point for others who might like to add anedotes .........
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01-14-2009, 09:28 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Truly Scorpios are either black or white. I guess some of them (like me) can be so fickle or indecisive (Librian Mars) they switch from black to white so often and fast, but still no grey. That mutable Asc does or doesn't help in ways - being fixed yet mutable altogether is just confusing! Seems like i have dual personality sometimes, Pisces rising Scorp Sun. That black angel inside always gets counselled by the white angel before it does anything.
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01-14-2009, 10:26 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
My two cents are that fixed signs generally like to see things finished, and you need a fixed sign to really carry something through. In business the fixed signs are like the investors, the ones who can take a good project and see it through.
The only comment I wanted to make was that I don't think fixed signs finish things. I think they come close to finishing, but mutable signs are the signs of endings. Maybe this is just Scorpio, but I would apply it to all fixed signs. They do most of the middle, and most of the end, until they think the rest will wrap itself up. So they do the bit they think is the most valuable and necessary bit to the process, knowing that others will carry on.
For instance when I was in college I noticed that whenever people had plans the cardinals amongst us would come up with the ideas, and might invite people. People would then respond, asking questions about the supposed party. But the cardinals had already gone somewhere else, and it was the fixed signs that picked up the project so to speak, and responded, did the party planning, did the shopping, bought the food and drink and decorations, got the music. Once they had done this, the party was inevitable- the guests were coming, and the stuff was there. This was where the fixed people stopped.
So although it wasn't an ending, the ending would sort itself out. The mutables were the ones that cleaned the house, decorated it, etc, set up the music and saw through the party. They smoothed over all the edges and unresolved issues. The fixed people were the ones that just turned up fashionably late :P
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01-14-2009, 10:31 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
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The mutables were the ones that cleaned the house, decorated it, etc, set up the music and saw through the party. They smoothed over all the edges and unresolved issues. The fixed people were the ones that just turned up fashionably late :P
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I'm always punctual! But i tend to be the one who gives ideas, then appear at the start of the party. Then disappear when the cleaning up begins. :X I only have 1 planet in cardinal signs.
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01-14-2009, 10:36 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
EVERYONE disappears when the cleaning up begins... :O
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01-14-2009, 10:42 AM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Except the Virgos. =P
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01-14-2009, 10:52 AM
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Except the Virgos. =P
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I VERY MUCH agree on this! (Was married to a Virgo).
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01-14-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Sundance_Kid
The only comment I wanted to make was that I don't think fixed signs finish things. I think they come close to finishing, but mutable signs are the signs of endings. Maybe this is just Scorpio, but I would apply it to all fixed signs. They do most of the middle, and most of the end, until they think the rest will wrap itself up. So they do the bit they think is the most valuable and necessary bit to the process, knowing that others will carry on.
The mutables were the ones that cleaned the house, decorated it, etc, set up the music and saw through the party. They smoothed over all the edges and unresolved issues. The fixed people were the ones that just turned up fashionably late :P
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Thank you - finaly to hear something nice about mutable signs (I read on this forum about Sagittarius and how we never grow up, generaly about traveling and ``always on a run`` and of course superficial feelings). Very nice of you. I must say that I dont like generalizations, but some ``general rules`` I find true and practical to apply.
Happy Sagittarius
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01-14-2009, 02:01 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
Astrologer50, I moved this one also to the Natal Astrology forum. In the relational forum we mainly deal with relationships and those are usually being discussed by looking at synastry or discussing Venus and Mars as they play an important role in relationships. I feel that this thread is very much belonging to the Natal Astrology department.
Cheers, Starlink
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01-15-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
O, as someone with a T-Cross involving Pluto in Scorpio as the apex planet (Mercury in Leo and Moon in Aquarius both square it), I agree about the description about Scorpio. I rarely pardon others, and this is so even with things that occurred during years past. I don't let things go, unfortunately. I also feel intensely -- indeed, it is either "black or white". I don't like discussing opinions unless I know the topic incredibly well. I don't have strong opinions because I doubt my intelligence and others' willingness to listen to them. I don't like being controlled, most esp. by persons I view are in no position to do so and aren't superior to me in some sense (pardon if this sounds mean).
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01-19-2009, 06:57 PM
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Re: Fixed signs how they operate
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Originally Posted by astrologer50
Fixed signs hate to see anything unfinished, totally dedicated, salt of the Earth, reliable, responsible people. Of course they can be stubborn, unbending, dont like change and probably have more difficulty adapting than most. But most people's chart have something in there to offset this eg: mutuable sign on the Ascendant. ALL fixed signs have Staying Power!!! and without this nothing would get done or completed would it.
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Scorp Sun, Aquarius ASC here. 3 planets in Leo, 3 in Scorpio (and 4 in cardinal signs). What's mutable? (kidding - developing mutable traits is one of my 'challenges' though - Sag MC.)
Heh, I'm the type to help put together the party and then stay home. I've a friend with 6 planets in Taurus, 2 in Leo and 1 in Aquarius. We joke about :38: "not liking change" . In general, she's more social than I, albeit quieter. She'll go to the party, make the circuit then leave (maybe I'll just wait in the car). All said with humor, but it really isn't that far off the mark.
I enjoy hearing from other fixed types. Thanks, Astrologer50.
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