hard aspects in synastry

VENUS · #1 11-04-2008, 08:58 AM

hey guys,
question for you....
can a relationship survive if there are hard aspects involved in the synastry? such as venus square uranus, and venus opposition saturn? even when there are tight conjunctions and more harmonious aspects then afflicted ones?

normak · #2 11-04-2008, 04:05 PM

I would like to know the answer to this one as well, since it seems such aspects exist in almost any relationship.

AquariusT · #3 11-04-2008, 05:00 PM

I have seen many hard/harsh aspects between charts have long relationships. Many storms but they stay together and continue to work out their Karma in this lifetime which is a good thing.

Steeler · #4 11-04-2008, 05:02 PM

Venus square Uranus usually makes the relationship unpredictable with lots of attraction,
but that it would be a bad aspect...No, not really.
Some people enjoy constant excitement and changes.

Venus opposition Saturn on the other hand can cause a lot of problems if there is not enough communication in the relationship.
I had the square with an ex and we would NEVER be "on" at the same time.
To my understanding the opposition is far worse than the square, but I could be wrong.

And if there is indeed more harmonious aspects in the synastry, the relationship can work...
But through transits when these aspects get activated, that's when they start to cause problems.
In the end, communication really is the key, but even communication can't help it when one is feeling cold and the other hot.

freedomlover · #5 11-04-2008, 05:14 PM

Venus,

I'm a firm believer in "love conquers all". There's a hitch though - BOTH have to be working on their "love walk". And it has to be TRUE love, not infatuation, lust, or ego-serving - which puts you into the higher vibrations of the planetary energies. But if you have one who is trying to be kind and understanding, and you have another who sees nothing wrong with being a total a**-then you may have a problem on your hands.(The kind and understanding one could be the Venus person, and the hard-a** who wants everything their way could be the Saturn person. But this is only one example of how the energies could manifest.)

My 2 cents.......

VENUS · #6 11-04-2008, 10:57 PM

thanks for your input. and yes i do beleive "love conquers all." and if you do put your all , you MAKE it succeed. in this synastry, his saturn exactly opposes my venus in my 4th house...that could make him not trust me, and maybe even jealous? i was kind of worried that would be the case, especially since natally his venus is opposition his own saturn. but we also have very strong aspects as well, like venus trine saturn and a couple others. let me post the charts and anyone's opinion would be greatly appreciated.

VENUS · #7 11-04-2008, 11:12 PM

ok so here it is.
the bad aspects im worried about like i said are his saturn opposition my venus in my 4th house...would this prevent a serious home life? i was thinking maybe i would make his "home life" nice since my venus falls in his 4th, on his IC

and his venus square my uranus in my 2nd house...maybe he wont think im so reliable? especially in financial matters (im not lol) but could that be "overided" since his jupiter in 8th house tightly trines my venus?
about what STeeler said about the excitement issue. yes, i always need excitement and all that stuff because i get bored sooooo easily. so its ok with me...even though i am looking for something serious (not with just anyone, with him.)

so i dont know. what do YOU guys think?

p.s. we both have grand water trines,(he also has an air trine) and both our water planets involved in the trines, fall in each other trines...if that made any sense..LOL
and my venus, pluto, and ascendent, is in his air trine...that should be extra good right?

MarieCamery · #8 11-09-2008, 12:36 PM

Not too bad, In general lots of support from conjunctions between the two of you- on those hard 8 edges. I noticed that vertex is involved with the red person, whoever is red less conj involved, but there are all the trines and sextiles helping out on these same corners. There are only 2 spots I see where each of you do not have a easy aspect helping out. The reds Pluto area and the blues Uranus/Jupiter area. As far as problem areas I noticed the reds pluto/leo career? may pose a problem for the blues homelife, but the reds sun supports that venus as well as communicates about it(merc). another maybee problem is that red pluto falling into the others 12th, or that Blue asc falling into the others 12th(including blues saturn and pluto) I see the conj both moons & vertex of the red maybee this is fateful. MCamery

archergirl · #9 11-09-2008, 03:15 PM

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can a relationship survive if there are hard aspects involved in the synastry? such as venus square uranus, and venus opposition saturn?

Yes! But it takes maturity and work. 'Work' is something most people nowadays don't like to associate with relationships; either it's easy or it fails.

Mr. Archergirl and I differ from one another in many ways: Venus oppositions; Mars oppositions; Sun oppositions; Moon squares; my North Node is conjunct his Saturn and his South Node is conjunct my Venus! But we've been married for 13 years, against all the odds, and it's not an unhappy marriage, either. Full of bickering, yes, and 'god, I'm tired of you!'

; but it's been a fruitful lesson in love and tolerance for one another: how to love and accept someone who is completely different from oneself.

It depends on how much you want it, really. Are you willing to do the work and make it last?

AG

VENUS · #10 11-14-2008, 08:15 PM

thanks for ur feedback guys. i am actually the blue person, and hes the red. i am concerned with his 8th house moon square his pluto. and our moons are in the same degree, so basically my moon is square his pluto. that would make him jealous of me? or would he make me jealous? i know manipulation is involved.

8th house moon is a classic indicator of problems with women and so forth. im assuming it roots back to his mother or something ( they are close though) ...i know he left his family at 18 to come and study abroad and ended up staying here in the states. so im assuming he wanted to "escape." probably no privacy or freedom im assuming. another issue im concerned with is of his cancer moon square his pluto and "letting go of his past."

thanks again for ur feedback. i really appreciate it

redwolf481 · #11 11-24-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VENUS

thanks for ur feedback guys. i am actually the blue person, and hes the red. i am concerned with his 8th house moon square his pluto. and our moons are in the same degree, so basically my moon is square his pluto. that would make him jealous of me? or would he make me jealous? i know manipulation is involved.

8th house moon is a classic indicator of problems with women and so forth. im assuming it roots back to his mother or something ( they are close though) ...i know he left his family at 18 to come and study abroad and ended up staying here in the states. so im assuming he wanted to "escape." probably no privacy or freedom im assuming. another issue im concerned with is of his cancer moon square his pluto and "letting go of his past."

thanks again for ur feedback. i really appreciate it

I have an 8th house moon conjunct venus in taurus..opposite pluto in scorpio in the first house(libra rising) I have lots and lots of mommie issues but awkawardly enough i was sent to therepy all as a child and teen...I still have problems with her(shes a cancer and stuck in the past) but I am pretty mature about relationships actually much more so than any kids I have met my age and even adults in their 40's and 50's many times...actually I have allways loved older women is that a mars in cancer thing lol.....(no i don't want a mother) I have daddy issues too but hes juts crazy and I just met him(8th house stellium and moon in scorpio.. with neptune conjunct the sun...my dad is crazy..hes bipolar with personality disorders adn just issues period) ha ah