Jupiter/Neptune connection (actor)?

[piscesascendant]

I have a mutual reception between my Jupiter (in Pisces--1st house) and Neptune (in Sagittarius--9th house). The 9th house in said to rule film, and with the 1st house ruling appearances, among other things, I was wondering what others had to say about the subject. The subject being... I've recently read that a Jupiter/Neptune connection is a sign of an actor. I've been told more than once that I have stage presence, and someone even asked me once if I was an actor, that they recognized me. Told them that I wasn't. Any thoughts? Thanks!

[piscesascendant]

Just online in a google search. Found several sources saying the same thing. Didn't memorize the websites.

[Matthew The Astrologer]

Liz Greene goes into a lot of detail on this in "The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption"... which is not at all light reading, but worth the effort.

[piscesascendant]

Acutally, I just realized I own that book! I first bought it when I saw it on a shelf where I work (bookstore, obviously). Started reading it and thought, WOAH!... gonna ned some time to get into this one. Since you mentioned that she touches upon the subject I brought up, I'll have to reinvestigate, thanks!

Reason I mentioned the whole topic was, there was an analysis of Leonardo DiCarprio's chart and showed him to have a Jupiter-Neptune square, indicating his actor's flair. Now, I don't have a square aspect, or really any other aspect, but instad a mutual reception, which I hadn't really ever equated me as an actor. I did plays for several years and was told by others I disappeared completely into a role, "type cast" or not (to those familiar with my personality), and felt very "at home" on stage and was hypnotized at the movies. It really didn't hit me there could be something more to this until more and more people mentioned to me about having "stage presence" and one guy swore I was an actor and asked what I'd been in, without me saying a word to him previously..

I'll check out Greene's book again and see what she says on the topic, thanks!

[juliana_angelova]

My father is an actor with some 40 years of experience on stage. He has no Jupiter - Neptune connection but he has Sun conjunct Neptune, Mars conjunct Neptune, Uranus trine Neptune and Neptune conjunct MC. It makes sense. I have also seen Sun - Neptune contacts in the charts of some Hollywood actors.

Yuliana

[Matthew The Astrologer]

Originally Posted by piscesascendant

Acutally, I just realized I own that book! I first bought it when I saw it on a shelf where I work (bookstore, obviously). Started reading it and thought, WOAH!... gonna ned some time to get into this one. Since you mentioned that she touches upon the subject I brought up, I'll have to reinvestigate, thanks!

So, let me get this straight... we're talking about a Neptune aspect, and you've had a "Neptune moment" and forgotten you owned the book about Neptune?

*snicker*

[Matthew The Astrologer]

...and while we're at it, my take on Neptune:

http://matthewastrology.blogspot.com...ful-drugs.html

Heh.

[piscesascendant]

Let me clarify....wrong choice of word to say "realized". When someone pointed out Greene's book on Neptune, I thought, "wait, I've already got that." Didn't forget, more like a connection. (by the way, if you want to insist I forgot but are using different words.....Neptune rules sleep--unless you write it down before going to bed, how many "eureka!" moments the night before do you remember upon getting up the next morning?) I've got Pisces rising, so Neptune and sleep rule my life, lol! Snicker all you want. By the way, someone could have been born during Pisces and not be a true Pisces due to other factors in their chart (not saying I am, just that much of it I experience.)

I try to collect and read through as many astrology books as I can--I have a VERY small collection (only 20 books). I know people who have hundreds. And every single one has only a fraction of what I need on each subject addressed. I wonder how many of these astrologer authors were Aquarius or had Uranus in significance in their chart (since Aquarius rules astrology).

I'll next research where I read about Jupiter-Neptune actors and post links here again. Makes perfect sense, since cinema or the stage, no matter how "realistically portrayed", still deal with illusion (Jupiter and Neptune both rule Pisces).

[Matthew The Astrologer]

the capper? I was gooned on my medication to treat my insomnia when all this was going on last night. The Neptune keeps a-coming...

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by piscesascendant

I have a mutual reception between my Jupiter (in Pisces--1st house) and Neptune (in Sagittarius--9th house). The 9th house in said to rule film, and with the 1st house ruling appearances, among other things, I was wondering what others had to say about the subject. The subject being... I've recently read that a Jupiter/Neptune connection is a sign of an actor. I've been told more than once that I have stage presence, and someone even asked me once if I was an actor, that they recognized me. Told them that I wasn't. Any thoughts? Thanks!

THe 9th does not rule film but Neptune does. The connection can mean foreign films and distribution. Acting really belongs to Leo and the Sun. A successful actor would have planets in the 10th for public life and perhaps in the 7th of the general public appeal. It belongs to the 5th house also of performing arts including dance. I have Pisces rising but a Leo Sun and have done some amateur acting and dancing also which is on film.

They say that Jupiter can rule acting and as it is the legal sign a lot of lawyers have strong Sag or Jupiter as they act in the theatre of law. And boy do they, some of them!! It is more the influence of playacting or exaggerated actions and behaviours and story telling, narrating documentaries on wild life and exotic locations etc.........so Journalists can have this configuration also especially foreign correspondents who film the events.

[piscesascendant]

I have read in many sources--in books, magazines, and online--that the 5th house rules (among many things) the stage in terms of acting. And yes, those same sources have mentioned the 9th house (and all associations with Sagittarius) as ruling film (Stanley Kubrick and his task-master reputation--Saturn singleton in Sagittarius; Steven Spielberg-- Sun in Sagittarius, and the list goes on...). Many film actors who are Leo's have "proven themselves among their peers" (as they have put it) by acting on stage (5th house). Leo's and 5th house planetary placements "have the chops".

I have never said that this Jupiter-Neptune connection is the sole indicator of an actor. Just look up frankly... anybody on imdb.com, and look at their birthdate, do their chart, and see what follows. I will agree that Leo and the 5th house is the hallmark of an actor (my Saturn singleton is on the 5th house cusp--and I've had a tendency [to put it mildly] of exhausting myself in a role on stage in order to "get it right")

What I had read before online (and now I'm ticked because I can't find it; next time I do, I'm bookmarking it) said that there was a strong tendency toward acting with any Jupiter-Neptune connection (any aspect), that it can be the mark of an actor. Maybe my post just hit a nerve with some actors who didn't want to feel left out? lol :P And I mentioned it also because I've have several experiences I couldn't quite firgure out in terms of people pegging me as an actor at face value without ever having seen me perform before, then I read about the connection online and it started to make sense.

By the way, Jupiter rules: law, politics, ministry, writers, actors, and much more. No wonder lawyers and theatricality come across as one and the same!

Lastly, when I last went to a professional astrologer who'd been doing this for decades, she told me that--based on some research she'd done with astrology and the performing arts)--roughly 80% of the trail-blazers in the arts were Aquarians (like myself), that they feed on their opposite-Leo. I hadn't even done film yet, only the stage. Gives a boost to the confidence, at least somewhat, lol.

Thanks for the feedback so far, folks! It's been great!

[undertoad]

Originally Posted by piscesascendant

I've had a tendency [to put it mildly] of exhausting myself in a role on stage in order to "get it right")

What I had read before online (and now I'm ticked because I can't find it; next time I do, I'm bookmarking it) said that there was a strong tendency toward acting with any Jupiter-Neptune connection (any aspect), that it can be the mark of an actor.

It's interesting what you say. This is only my own experience, not a comment from a pro astrologer - but I have Jupiter/Neptune closely conjunct (2 degrees in 1st House), and though I'm technically a musician, I really want to be a performer.

I've done a few one-man shows - I suppose you'd call it comedy: but it isn't standup, the snap'n'crackle of back and forth between the stage and the audience which real standups are so good at (more Mercurial, I think) - more presenting a strange, consistent personality on stage which is also me. Lots of work with the body as well as the words. People have commented on how I pull the audience into my own mind, and make them laugh but always with a sharp uncomfortable edge.

Haven't done one of those for a few years, because it scares me. (I guess that's about identity and expansiveness - Jupiter 1st House - getting so intertwined with illusion - Neptune).

What you say about "getting it right" also rings very familiar - last time I performed I did 18 hours' rehearsal for an 8-minute spot! And that's not including the time it took to write.

Just my experience - thanks for the post, as I'd never thought about this aspect in my chart in this way before. But it does sound as though you're onto something with the Jupiter/Neptune acting connection. And it's intuitively plausible, given the characters of these two planets.

[Claire19]

Hi there

What do you have in the 10th house of the spotlight and public image?
Anything in the 5th for performing arts??. Jupiter for comedy yes and Neptune for the doubt and insecurity. I guess. I wouldnt say that any aspect between Jupiter and Neptune leads to acting necessarily. THese two planets are also religiose and spiritual in their influence. THey are also indicative of those who quest and travel for the truth of their universe and to derive some kind of faith and spirituality from their adventures. It is the classic foreign correspondent aspect especially dealing with photography and of course journalism. It may well be the aspect of anyone connected to the circus or wildlife associations also.

[piscesascendant]

Okay...let me state this... again. Given the casual research I was doing on Jupiter and Neptune, I came across some websites that mentioned there being a tendency toward acting, not that it was "Jupiter and Neptune equals acting or bust". To illustrate the openness of astrology from what I've read over the years and especially rcently, on a different note, I've got an astrology book called "Mapping Your Money" which lists several "everyday folks" anonymously (including their charts to show their rags or riches tendencies), as well as lists of celebrities and their charts. Oprah is listed, as is Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, and Donald Trump. The point being, with several of the celebrities, it's clearly visible as to how they got their fortune. With others, it's not so obvious, but the book shows how their riches came to be anyways (Donald Trump was this example, interestingly enough...get the book, read it, and you'll see what I mean from the explanation in the book). The larger point being--to lasso back to Jupiter-Neptune and acting-- a person could have the obvious giveaways (Leo sun or 5th house, etc.), or they may have other planets in aspects which might seem regulated to other parts of life, but that lend themselves generously, even unexpectedly to a different activity and/or profession, such as acting..

One thing I did find interesting, since spiritualism and religion (with regards to Jupiter and Neptune) have been brought up in this thread more than once...the two roles I excelled at in the acting field were Pontius Pilate in Jesus Christ Superstar, and John the Baptist in Cotton Patch Gospel--a mixture of acting and religious themes!

Again, thanks for all the feedback so far! Keep it coming!

[star2858]

Originally Posted by piscesascendant

Okay...let me state this... again. Given the casual research I was doing on Jupiter and Neptune, I came across some websites that mentioned there being a tendency toward acting, not that it was "Jupiter and Neptune equals acting or bust". To illustrate the openness of astrology from what I've read over the years and especially rcently, on a different note, I've got an astrology book called "Mapping Your Money" which lists several "everyday folks" anonymously (including their charts to show their rags or riches tendencies), as well as lists of celebrities and their charts. Oprah is listed, as is Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, and Donald Trump. The point being, with several of the celebrities, it's clearly visible as to how they got their fortune. With others, it's not so obvious, but the book shows how their riches came to be anyways (Donald Trump was this example, interestingly enough...get the book, read it, and you'll see what I mean from the explanation in the book). The larger point being--to lasso back to Jupiter-Neptune and acting-- a person could have the obvious giveaways (Leo sun or 5th house, etc.), or they may have other planets in aspects which might seem regulated to other parts of life, but that lend themselves generously, even unexpectedly to a different activity and/or profession, such as acting..

One thing I did find interesting, since spiritualism and religion (with regards to Jupiter and Neptune) have been brought up in this thread more than once...the two roles I excelled at in the acting field were Pontius Pilate in Jesus Christ Superstar, and John the Baptist in Cotton Patch Gospel--a mixture of acting and religious themes!

Again, thanks for all the feedback so far! Keep it coming!

I have Jupiter in aries in the 12th house trining neptune in capricorn in the 8th house (at the end of it actually).

Am studying to be a lawyer and my advocacy skills are amazing! Much appreciate the link between drama and lawyering! Also have mars trine neptune too and jupiter trine uranus.

[redwolf481]

I am a libra rising with venus in taurus and moon in taurus my moon in taurus is in closest aspect to my cancer midheaven(and rules it) and my venus in taurus is 2nd (what do you think of a public career in the arts) I have a stellium in the 9th house....my sun(gemini) mercury(cancer) and mars(cancer)

I have jupiter in aqaurius in the 5th house trine my sun and my ascendant(I only have 2 air planets with a ton of earth and water planets and one fire planet...but I have a grand trine in air sun, jupiter and libra rising sign(really a kite cause uranus in sag opposes my sun)

no connection between jupiter and neptune but neptune is in my 3rd house with uranus opposite my mercury, sun, and mars and trine my venus and moon and I have pluto in scorpio in the first house hitting every personal planet so I have charisama

been acting a while I wanna make it from the stage and then do film that presents complicated story telling..ect.....

[piscesascendant]

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[wilsontc]

redwolf,

You said:

I have a stellium in the 9th house...I have a grand trine in air sun, jupiter and libra rising sign(really a kite cause uranus in sag opposes my sun...no connection between jupiter and neptune but neptune is in my 3rd house...been acting a while I wanna make it from the stage and then do film that presents complicated story telling..ect.....

It seems that in your case both a strong Jupiter (Jupiter in the 9th, which is Jupiter the house it rules) and Neptune in the 3rd house (thinking, also talking) have helped you in your acting career.

Acting out,

Tim

[redwolf481]

jupiter is in aquarius in the 5th and squares the moon and venus as well as being part of a grand trine(sun in 9th ascenadnt in libra)

to pisces...wasn't trying to get at anything..sorry if there was no point...just I was reading everyones ideas on acting and had everything everyone was talking about(except the jupiter neptune connection) (9th house sun in gemini, mercury and mars in cancer) I have moon in taurus in closest aspect(sextile to) my midheaven in cancer which it rules.....and venus sextile in 2nd closest aspect....jupiter in aquarius in the 5th and I can't remmeber what else you guys all talked about...but i thought I would share since acting is what I do

[piscesascendant]

Thanks for elaborating, redwolf. Did appreciate it. And no apology needed,

LOL...maybe a key planet is in retrograde right now!