Sextiles

[Neptune Rising]

Hey all

I'm really not sure about sextiles and how strong they are as an indicator in a chart. I rarely see anything come out of a sextile, more often I see a trine come to fruition but hardly ever a sextile. Why would this be so? Is it too weak an aspect to bring about results? I know another answer would be to look deeper into the chart to see what could have inhibited the sextile's fruition... but I'm just wondering how often sextiles come to fruition..

NR

[archergirl]

Less often, usually, although more often than squares. Sextiles indicate an opportunity, whereas trines usually indicate a lot more energy behind driving the matter forward. Usually.

AG

[Neptune Rising]

Many thanks for replying Archergirl!

I get it yes, sextiles are like "well maybe I can do so and so, but then again it doesn't matter if I don't", but trines are more "hey ho I'm definately doing this no matter what!".

And squares are "well if I have to then I'll climb over these hot coals, jump 1000 hurdles, swing through 10,000 loops to do so and so" - so in the end it becomes too hard to bring the thing into fruition..

Oppositions maybe would they be "yes definately doing this, (then when it happens), uh oh I've changed my mind!"

Thanks
NR

[SagiCap]

Originally Posted by Neptune Rising

Many thanks for replying Archergirl!

I get it yes, sextiles are like "well maybe I can do so and so, but then again it doesn't matter if I don't", but trines are more "hey ho I'm definately doing this no matter what!".

And squares are "well if I have to then I'll climb over these hot coals, jump 1000 hurdles, swing through 10,000 loops to do so and so" - so in the end it becomes too hard to bring the thing into fruition..

Oppositions maybe would they be "yes definately doing this, (then when it happens), uh oh I've changed my mind!"

Thanks
NR

GREAT explanation, I'm remembering that!

[eternalautumn]

A great way for me to remember the meaning and energy of the aspects is this:

Conjunction=Mercury (depends on the planets)
Sextile=Venus
Square=Mars
Trine=Jupiter
Opposition=Saturn

[dr. farr]

In my (often peculiar) understanding of astrological principles, the relative efficacy of aspects is dependant upon several factors:

-the exactness of the aspect (I follow the old-time concept that if, for example, a sextile is within 1 degree of exactness, and, say, an opposition or a conjunction is, say, 3 degress away from exactness, the sextile would represent a more powerful activation than the conjunction of opposition in this example)

-declination of the aspecting bodies (I have described this consideration in a thread on the Mundane section)
Basically:
-if in a trine, sextile, semi-sextile, both (or all) involved bodies are on the same side of the ecliptic by declination (either all N or all S), the aspect is "strong"; however, if the bodies are on opposite sides of the ecliptic, the aspects are greatly weakened (and, unless partile near exactitude, are-most likely-completely ineffective);
-if in the case of a conjunction, same as above: all bodies must be on the same side of the ecliptic, if not, (unless the conjunction be partile exact), the influence of that conjunction is much reduced; this is why (in the approach I am outlining here) the parallel of declination is always considered to be the "strongest" of the 3 varieties of possible conjunction*;
-in semisquare, square or opposition: the involved planets must be on opposite sides of the ecliptic for the aspect to exert significant influence; otherwise-unless the square or opposition is partile exact-the aspect will exhibit mild effects.

(Note: these concepts represent astrological principles not much-if at all-followed in most approaches to contemporary astrology)

*The 3 types of conjunction are:
1-conjunct by longitude
2-conjunct by parallel
3-conjunct by mutual reception

[lillyjgc]

I think it depends actually on the power of the 2 planets sextiling.Two debilitated planets sextiling could bring something unpleasant.If an applying sextile, from 2 sigs was occurring and was the only real link between the planets , and acting from weak signs or positions, I'd say the matter may not come to pass, but if it did, it might not be very helpful, depending on the actual planets.Mars and Saturn sextiling might not be good!
I think a sextile may provide an opportunity or a mutual acceptance of a situation.I've seen it play out in love horaries as the 2 parties deciding amicably to move on from one another.
For a sextile to yield a yes answer, I think I'd want to see a few other supportive aspects as well.
Cheers
Lilly

[SagiCap]

Originally Posted by eternalautumn

A great way for me to remember the meaning and energy of the aspects is this:

Conjunction=Mercury (depends on the planets)
Sextile=Venus
Square=Mars
Trine=Jupiter
Opposition=Saturn

Super! I memorized this. Thanks!!