where to make your chart. . . ?

m_Adison · #1 03-02-2006, 02:02 AM

YESTERDAY...I wrote this nice little introduction for myself ... made some cute jokes and everything....and just when I clicked to send it... what do you know? It DISAPPEARS. So. Here I am again... one more time.

I just registered yesterday...and I'm obsessed with astrology... but, I don't know everything. I was hoping someone could tell me ... something I don't know...The problem is I have problems... I've been having issues with my sanity. I was hoping maybe I could blame it on my birthchart... instead of my mom. ha... no I'm kidding...Seriously. My Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter are all in Aquarius... and my rising sign is Scorpio. Now, just from what I know... things aren't looking too promising for me....I mean intellectually, yes... but, being as destructive I am...haha... let's just say I have a crazy life....having scorpio as my rising sign plays a big part... but, I'm so full-blown aquarius that it really ... really... makes it worse. It's like I have all the tools but.. can't use them. There isn't much I can't do... but, I can't seem to commit to anything. Being aquarius can be a blessing.. but it can also be a burden. Sometimes I hope to be stable.. but, at the same time I can't remain stable... it's complicated. . . . . . . here is the chart if anyone can help me . . . don't hesitate to reply. :mrgreen:

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wilsontc · #2 03-02-2006, 04:37 AM

Madison,

There is are two eneries in your chart: structuring energies and unstructuring energies. When these energies combine the result can be continual building and destroying. Since the strongest focuses in your chart are in the 1rst house (being) and the 3rd house (thinking), this can end up in a constant destruction of who you are and how you think. The challenge is to structure youself and your thoughts and then use the unstructuring energies as REstructuring energies instead. So you build things for your self and your thoughts and then REstructure them in a new way. This will allow you to stay "connected" to both yourself and your mind. Working at this way of being and thinking can help to end the destructive cycle you seem to be involved in.

Structuring and restructuring,

Tim

m_Adison · #3 03-02-2006, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the advice.... maybe I should try your method. I'll have to start self improving.

But, IT'S SO HARD. BEING AN AQUARIUS IS HARD.

Summery Joy · #4 03-02-2006, 10:07 AM

Hey M,

Wow. I have 4 planets in Leo along with many other objects and mathematical points. I have the Moon in Taurus opposite your ASC. I suppose I'm your complete oppsoite!

It will be fun to see how we deal with each other. I've never met a person with a stellium opposite my stellium.

Welcome to the forum.

m_Adison · #5 03-02-2006, 03:33 PM

Wow. You must be a breath of fresh air. HA. 4 planets in Leo. That's insane. We're quite a pair then, eh? Did I say how much I love Leos?

Really I do. One of my closest friends is a leo... At first we hated each other.. we met in high school :mrgreen: we definitely didn't see eye to eye in the beginning... mostly because, I thought she was foolish... but, then I thought... maybe I'm the one being foolish here. Becuase, she really was cool, you know?... then we paired up and were inseperable ever since..> I can't say that we've had much contact lately. It's kinda bringing me down. Leo and Aquarius really make quite a formidable pair... but, if you wanna argue.. that's always fun, too

You'll be seeing me.

m_Adison · #6 03-02-2006, 05:26 PM

I'm such an idiot. I swear this never happens the first time. (haha) I was reading another post on the forum.. and realized that I messed up my chart.

ops: ... I forgot to take into account daylight savings... and my chart has some slight changes. I wonder what this means. What does mid-heaven represent? Because, on my last chart it was virgo.. and this time it's Leo.. . what is the difference between my last chart and this new one?

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m_Adison · #7 03-02-2006, 05:38 PM

Oh, the irony!

I checked out your profile. It's amazing to see that you are a musician, writer... everything that I am. Very cool. I'm a die hard musician. Piano and voice... but you won't hear me doing open mic just yet.... since I can't go to the bar yet... (well, legally

) Should I say.. I won't perform at the bar under a different name other than my own.

I'm waiting for my time to shine... :mrgreen: I write piano compositions and vocal/piano ballads... Music is my passion. I went through some other instruments before I ever found my love for piano.

We may be opposites... but, at least we have the arts. And comedy.

.:.:.:m_Adison:.:.:.

Draco · #8 03-02-2006, 06:05 PM

Hi Adison,

I'm not really onto natal interpretations in my studies yet, other areas interest me more, but I imagine that Saturn must be a pretty dominant influence in your chart, as your huge Aquarian stellium is in it's sign of rulership and triplicity, so Saturn would have a significant influence over them.

Others might say Uranus too, which is fine, but I like the harmonious, old style attribution of planets around the zodiac.

If I had to I would attribute Uranus to the Cardinal, Neptune to the Mutable and Pluto to the fixed signs - in order to preserve that harmonic, neatly balanced order of correspondences - but then I'm a Virgo, with Saturn/Mercury in Libra, so such strictures of symmetry and order are important to me.

You'll have to ask a more experienced natalist about what this might mean in your chart though. I might have a think about it and come back to share my thoughts.

I just think that Saturn holds a lot of power in your chart, given the stellium.

Draco

wilsontc · #9 03-02-2006, 07:45 PM

Madison,

My interpretation is still valid, but I would also now add that there is a strong INWARD pull to your chart, since many of your planets are clustered at the bottom (inner world) of the chart.

Inwardly,

Tim

P.S. The only way I have been able to make sure I have the correct "My Astrology" chart is to create the chart in Astrodienst (http://www.astro.com) and then use this a guideline to make the "My Astrology" chart look exactly the same!

m_Adison · #10 03-02-2006, 08:49 PM

Don't you mean madison? :mrgreen:

What does the inward pull symbolize?

I always thought Uranus contributed many of the qualities as well as Saturn. for example: I'm very impulsive, but I want to be stable... I want a mixture of both... and it's difficult to find a solid medium.

wilsontc · #11 03-02-2006, 09:32 PM

Madison,

(Gotta love that "edit" feature! I have corrected my previous post!

) The "inward" pull simply refers to a tendency to focus inward, indicated by having MANY planets conjunct your Nadir. This could come out in continual self-examination for every little detail, feeling, etc. of who you are. The "inward pull" would tend to pull you out of the outside world, so you may be VERY private about yourself and your life issues. And you are correct about the impulsive, but stable urges indicated in your chart.

However, I believe there comes a point when we have done all we can do with chart analysis and now have to get onto real life!

What are you going to do with your "inner focus"? How can you structure and REstructure your life to get the results you want? How are you going to grow and develop while accepting that instability of some sort will be a fact of your life? Start answering these questions in your life for yourself, and grow yourself into the sort of life you decide you want to have.

Charting and recharting,

Tim

m_Adison · #12 03-02-2006, 10:47 PM

Very true, indeed. Thanks for the advice... Now, I want to gather my thoughts ... chart and rechart. Good idea.

Enjoy the day.. it's nice out.

-until then.

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Summery Joy · #13 03-04-2006, 11:23 AM

My God, m_Adison!!!

Your natal chart has the Sun and a stellium in Aquarius and the MC in Leo.
My natal chart has the Sun and a stellium in Leo and the MC in Aquarius!!

Technically, most of your Aquarius stellium is in the 4th house except for one planet in the third.

Technically, most of my Leo stellium is ALSO in the 4th house except for one planet ALSO in the 3rd.

How cool is this? It's a shame we don't have an ASC/DSC relationship though. My ASC/DSC are Gemini/Sagittarius.

m_Adison · #14 03-05-2006, 04:23 AM

I was hoping you would reply... :mrgreen:

That is crazy, huh? That probably explains why we have so much in common... with music... and I'm sure other things... I know there is a change in my charts.. but, I can't really explain it to myself. Characteristic wise...I know a substantial amount of things about astrology... but, there is so much that I haven't read about... I don't know what a midheaven is... or what it means. I believe mine is Leo. - - - Opposites attract

-until then.

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m_Adison · #15 03-05-2006, 08:36 AM

What is best place to calculate birthcharts online? Because... I've been calculating some of my friends charts today... and the long/lat is different at certain websites... and in cases messes up the whole chart.

I did my boyfriends chart online.. I was wondering what it says.. relationship wise to mine. . . . . I believe I got all of the correct details.

Feb, 4th 1980 Pendleton, OR USA (eric) / With Feb. 9th 1986 Pendleton, OR USA (me) -- - - astro.com had a different chart than the one here one astrologyweekly. I used the astro.com's results of the points on astrologyweeklys chart. -good conclusion?

Mine is the one in the forum.

Happy Sunday.

:mrgreen:

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Summery Joy · #16 03-05-2006, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_Adison

What is best place to calculate birthcharts online?

My personal favorite and a very popular website is www.astro.com . Get a profile there and enjoy the options

wilsontc · #17 03-05-2006, 03:26 PM

Madison,

You said:

Quote:

I was wondering what it says.. relationship wise to mine. . . . . I believe I got all of the correct details....Feb, 4th 1980 Pendleton, OR USA (eric) / With Feb. 9th 1986 Pendleton, OR USA (me)...I used the astro.com's results of the points on astrologyweeklys chart. -good conclusion?

You will find that many astrologers recommend astro.com, because it has so many options and is the easiest online charting website to use. The only way I have been able to get the astrologyweekly charts accurate is to do exactly what you said: use astro.com as my guide. Since I care very much about the orbs used, I prefer astrologyweekly's chart result, since once I have created the chart I know the orbs of the chart fit with what I like to use.

That said, astrologyweekly can not do charts between two people. This chart is called a "synastry" and is a choice available on astro.com. A synastry chart is created by putting one chart around the outside of another chart, to see what houses the planets fall in and what the aspects are made to these planets on the outer chart. Synastries are complex and the aspects are easiest to see in a table, which astro.com provides.

However, although you can easily show the chart of the synastry online, you can not easily show the table of the synastry. For this reason, in a synastry I like to have all the chart information of both people in the format:
Month Day, Year
XX:XX AM or PM
City Province/County State/Country

so I can create the chart myself. I just get too confused by seeing all those lines going between the charts...and I don't trust astro.com to only use significant orbs.

Relating,

Tim

m_Adison · #18 03-05-2006, 06:49 PM

I assumed that astro was the more appropriate choice. Hmm... so, where can I find the information to make my own? And, how do I read it... I actually looked at our synastry chart... but, I couldn't figure out what anything meant. HA! I mean... I know characteristics... but, just looking at a chart... and giving an explanation is beyond me. I noticed that... when doing the chart here.. at astrologyweekly.com... his rising sign was a Taurus... but, if I do it on astro.com... his rising sign is an Aries... So, since astro.com is more accurate... he probably is an Aries rising? ? He is WAY more stable than I am... And, has no problem being stable. I would think that Taurus would make good sense... but, I guess it could go both ways.

wilsontc · #19 03-06-2006, 05:00 AM

Madison,

You said:

Quote:

...at astrologyweekly.com... his rising sign was a Taurus... but, if I do it on astro.com... his rising sign is an Aries...

This is a common problem with charts and it is usually caused by errors in entering Daylight Savings Time. I would trust the astro.com charts in case there are any supposed "differences" between two identical charts input into two different websites.

Trusting astro.com,

Tim