Rather than going down the road of which tables you used, for the sake of this example, let's assume the dignity/debility is correct and see if we can answer your question.
So if i'm saying that mars receives venus by triplicity and fall, is this correct ? So mars is quite fond of venus but at present due to circumstances he can't give venus what she wants (fall).
Yes, in Liily's table Mars receives Venus by triplicity and fall. Triplicity to me is not very fond. That would be dignity or exaltation. Rather I would say that on some level he cares for her. Her being in his fall, though, seems more adverse than just not being able to give her what she wants. Although I do like your saying "at the present time," since exaltation/fall is a much more transitory in influence than dignity/detriment.
Right okay, so i think im really reading the receptions the right way around now. Yes it is Lilly's table ive been referring to, So you wouldn't say Triplicity was very fond then ? Ive always viewed Triplicity as great liking for someone....not quite full on love like rulership, but more than just friends like id view Term, so sort of on the borderline, where they have a little something there for you other than just attraction. In Lillys table mars receives me by Trilpicity, term and then also fall.
I didn't realize that exaltation and fall was transitory, but now you say it this does makes sense, as they are both extremes on different scales, so thanks for this.
So I would say he cares less than you described and that the problem is more significant than you described. But overall, it is a good attempt at delineation of the reception.
And venus doesn't receive mars at all ? so she's powerless in being able to do anything.
I was thinking with mars being combust of the sun in his 4th house and this house also being intercepted, that this was causing the fall. So maybe he has problems/issues going on at home that he is super stressed with.
If Venus does not receive Mars at all, that is, if there is no reception from Venus to Mars, then there is no interest in him on her behalf, rather than her being powerless in the matter. His/Mars' being combust may only amplify his not being seen by her.
Going on Lillys Venus is in no dignity of mars, but i do have a lot of interest in him, probably even on an exaltation borderline rulership scale. We've not spoken or seen each other for two weeks though, and not sure if we ever will again, hence why i cast the chart. I have very little power over him coming back to me, im hoping the triplicity may sway him back at some point...but maybe thats just wishful thinking on my part.
Venus' power to act derives from its essential dignity at 5 CN, which is dignity by face in Lilly's table. So this suggests that her power in the situation appears to be very modest.
Im holding back as much as i can, i did cave in again lastnight after a glass of wine or two, and txt him (after not txting him for a week) i told him i wanted to see him. He didn't reply though.
So this is how I see it based on my rather limited expertise with essential dignity and reception.
Good questions and wishing you the best in your quest for greater understanding.
Thanks for your help, and im so glad ive finally managed to re - swerve my head around reading these correctly now, as when you're used to reading them one way its hard for you to adjust to the opposite way.
Two more questions actually regarding this chart, seen as i have it posted on this thread...
How come mercury is
applying to a sextile with venus and not separating, looks like mercurys separated but in the table below its says applying ?
And any idea what Jupiter is doing on the asc, especially with moons next applying aspect to it, jupiter rules my 3rd....but i can't see it being the msg from lastnight that i sent to him as this would be a separating aspect wouldn't it ?
but how come im not seeing what your seeing, i thought mars was also in triplicity of cancer in a day and night chart ...and then term at 6 degrees and then fall.
