How Einsteins Theory of Relativity proved the Immortality of the Soul. - Page 4

Prominent · #76 08-25-2012, 10:17 PM

I don't quite follow you..

piercethevale · #77 08-26-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Prominent

If god wants the mountain there then why'd he give us the ability to move it? Not much forsight with that.
So it seems like that quote speaks of false truths.

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Originally Posted by piercethevale

It always was your ability to move it. It is yours.
Let me know if you're having any difficulty when you try it...and I'll help you out.

As you didn't 'take the bait' here, I'll help you out anyways.

Why do you have the ability but are unable to do it?

...again... "If ye have faith, you can..."
It's about learning 'Faith'.
Faith in yourself as well as God.
It could very well be that we are in a sort of kindergarten here...and that we are but babies to the Creator. Some very renowned sages/gurus have said that we are in fact; 'Gods in training'
Do I believe that?
I don't know that I do...but it does have a certain logic to it.

Prominent · #78 08-26-2012, 12:59 AM

I don't know what you're talking about.
Who said we're unable? You seem to be talking abstractly which is hard to follow. Just say what you mean without all the disguises if you want to explain something.

Fifth House Sun · #79 08-26-2012, 01:21 AM

all dreams are real. there is only one dimension.

for instance

your "pets" can many times see what you cannot

retinoid · #80 08-26-2012, 10:06 AM

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Which is real during the dream - the dreamer or the dream...

In the Upanishads a king dreamt he was poor and when he awoke he was a king. he had this same dream many times and finally asked numerous learned people which was he, a pauper or a king, which was real, the dream or 'now'. Finally a beggar came to his court and said, 'wherever your SELF is, that is where you are real, for that is your only true nature'...

This is what illusion means.

retinoid · #81 08-26-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Prominent

If by real you mean it is happening and present, then yes something exists.
When you say something is an illusion you are tricking yourself into disassociating the phenomena with the circumstances present that are occurring. That's your own fault and inability to connect with reality.

Aligning with what is without and impermanent and forgetting who you are is an inability to connect with TRUE reality...yes what is happening in life is 'real' as a dream is. And having a good dream (good life) is good... What makes you believe right now is any different? Because you have been taught there is a big difference between dream and 'reality'? Read the Upanishad quote.

Prominent · #82 08-26-2012, 10:53 AM

When you dream, you're still here now, but traveling without the weight of the world/body. How you travel is relative to who you are. You never get anywhere awake or asleep, or at least that's how it feels to me.

retinoid · #83 08-26-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Prominent

When you dream, you're still here now, but traveling without the weight of the world/body. How you travel is relative to who you are. You never get anywhere awake or asleep, or at least that's how it feels to me.

You say that because you know when you go to 'sleep' here, you then dream. How would you believe if you knew that you existed somewhere else and this reality was just an emanation? Would this be 'akin' to a dream? Mind you dreams are rarely 'meaningless' and they are very real at the time of the dream (and sometimes after). You can feel really good or bad after dreams. Just as the king asked, which is real. The other man replied, wherever your SELF is...because your SELF is the truest reality. Everything else, is...well...not the truest. A lesser form of that.

Prominent · #84 08-26-2012, 11:06 AM

yea, I agree with that, but why are you saying I'm unable to connect to a true reality?

retinoid · #85 08-26-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Prominent

yea, I agree with that, but why are you saying I'm unable to connect to a true reality?

I don't think I said you were unable to? You may be able to. I think you definitely can. I think your true reality calls you a lot.

piercethevale · #86 08-28-2012, 03:57 AM

"When you're in a dream, the time passes so slowly.
Open up your heart, go sleep on the moment you were born.
Open up your heart, go sleep on the moment Love was born."

[playing these 'back to back' is a MUST!]
It's a Beautiful Day - "Bulgaria"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ohwAjCI4VM

"Time Is" - It's a Beautiful Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHhp...eature=related