Hi CJ,
"You and I have a lot in common on our charts. I am re-posting yours so that anybody who wants to see the position of some of the asteroids can. I have only begun to work with them, but I can speak, to some extent, about your planets.
Your Ascendant in Aries -- you approach things generally in a confident manner, sometimes maybe a little brassy (my Moon is in Aries. Brassy? Me! Never!). (I have an Aquarian Sun.)"
---Sometimes I wonder if I wasn't born a few minutes earlier as I don't see myself as being very Arian, although I hope it is Aries as I have enough Neptunian/Pisces stuff going on
. I have tried to find info on the Rising being ruled from the 12th with no luck.
"Anyway, with your Moon and Sun both in Aquarius in your 11th house -- the Aquarius house -- one would expect that you know how to fit into a group and hold your own center -- remain your own person. This would be a fairly typical interpretation for these two planets landing here. We both have Mercury in Capricorn, although yours, like your Sun and Moon, is in the 11th. If your Capricorn Mercury operates like mine, you have a tendency to try and look "normal" -- a Democrat wearing Republican's clothing, or something like that. The 11th house placement also makes you fit in, or try to fit into the crowd. Capricorn Mercury speaks in a conventional, executive manner."
---I've never heard this before (the fitting in part) and I definitely think it's true. I do try to be normal, try being the keyword, lol. I also tend to speak in a very conventional manner...I edit myself too much sometimes.
"But Lilith conuncts your 11th house Capricorn Mercury, within one degree, so this communication thing is some kind of a sore point with you, although maybe one of the other folks offering postings will clarify this better than I. Lilith, according to what I've read, shows where a person doesn't behave in a normal way (boy that's encouraging, huh?). Now, something you have to remember is, everybody has this kind of Achilles heel. We're just discussing where yours happens to be located.
I would think this would sort of indicate that you have trouble either communicating, or, doing it in a way which fits in with the group."
---This is definitely possible. It seems that I don't always know how I come off when I communicate.....maybe I come off as more serious than I intend, or even harsh when I don't mean to be. I can also tend towards being "too quiet", maybe because I don't always come off the way I mean to.
"Let's move on to an area I understand better.
Your Venus/Mars conjunction in Pisces is another thing you have like mine, although mine is in my 4th house and yours is in your 12th. Venus/Mars conjunct indicates that you are as comfortable with your male energies as with your female ones. This felt very normal for me -- I had trouble figuring out why other people weren't like me in this respect. I used hammers and drove tractors or whatever I wanted to do, and apparently I wanted to do more than many women did."
---This might be true to some extent, but I also like to keep a balance I think. When I was little I loved all the girly things like barbie and princesses, but I also liked to play sports. Dancing was big. I've also gotten into my fair share of challenges with men who feel that they are superior just because they're men (feministic stuff). I wasn't afraid to be as smart as them or relate to them as equals....I never felt like I should back down just because of my gender I guess (although not physical fights). I've never been very good at flirting, but I wasn't really a tomboy either.....didn't really fit under a label, hard to figure out (12th house stuff).
"I also had a lot of sexual neediness (Pisces). The 4th house is like the 12th, in that they are both water houses (Pisces is a water sign) (the water signs are very emotional, and can be needy -- but also compassionate), and the 12th house is the Pisces house. I would expect this would make you very very experimental, sexually -- trying different beds of whatever kind suited your fancy. With the trine to your Uranus/ Jupiter conjunction (at least Venus makes this trine on your chart), you've got very "individual" ideas about sex and intimacy or relationships. Venus is love or intimacy, Mars is sex or physical energies. Venus shows your feelings about money and self esteem and Mars shows how you go about getting what you want. We water-based Mars types have some tendency toward whining a little, but with all that Pisces energy, you may just seduce everybody -- "drug" them with your womanly wiles."
---Lol, drug them eh? I guess it could be possible. I think the fact that the conjunction is in my 12th makes me very private about this part of my life, and I'm not sure it's something that shows up so much in my daily life. It's like a dream-like thing that doesn't translate all that easily to reality? Of course the fact that it's in Pisces also makes me kind of passive (again, I'm not flirty and I can be pretty shy). I had a friend with a Mars/Venus conjunction in Leo and I was very much....not her? Lol. I'm just subtle, probably too subtle. The Jupiter/Uranus conjunction in the 8th does make me non-judgmental about sexuality, and maybe less uptight than many people (or not, I wouldn't know for sure) but it's still something I'm romantic about, if that makes any sense. The combo of Pisces and Sag. brings a spiritual or ethereal quality? On the philosophical level I'm very "Live and Let Live" but Venus in Pisces is still oh so dreamy and probably strengthened in the 12th? But yes, I admit to being pretty fascinated by sexuality, among other things though, lol.
"Neptune conjuncts your Midheaven, so you are shaping your career or defining yourself in the world through the Neptune energies -- seeing the world through rose-colored glasses or telling others a rosy version of the world, which could mean you are dishonest with people (and with yourself). This Neptune and Pisces stuff (Neptune rules Pisces) suggests a great deal of self-delusion. You probably get duped by lovers (I did). This may make you bitter, if you let it."
---I have definitely gotten "duped by lovers". I really have tried to see where I've deluded myself there, and I think I've learned some, but for now I am pretty reluctant to be in a relationship (some bitterness, some trying to learn and improve). My Neptune cnj. is one of the weirder parts of my chart. I've read things that say a Cap. MC can sometimes mean a "fall from status" or something similar, and Neptune on the MC can mean sort of a scandal, whether based on truth or not. Both have been true in my case. It seems some people are fascinated with speculating about me, with very little to go on.....or believing their own projections and illusions that are usually very far from the truth. Neptune is a tricky one. I think it can sometimes be like a magic mirror....people see what they want to see and I've learned that there's not usually much I can do about it. No matter how open and honest I am, people will believe what they want to. It shows me much more about them than what they think they see in me. I also have that whole no idea what I want to do with my life, confusion about direction thing....but I'm also a hard worker.
"Chiron the wounded healer is in Taurus in your 2nd house (Taurus house), which means something about how you go about healing your wounded self esteem -- hopefully someone smarter than I will address this."
---This part of my chart is one I have a pretty good understanding of....very clear representations in my life. Working on valuing myself.
"Uranus is on the opposite side of the chart, but it does not oppose Chiron. Uranus in Sag in the 8th house indicates some kind of fascination with finding a sexual partner (we've pretty well covered this).
Meanwhile, Pluto and Saturn are conjunct, in different signs, in your 7th house, indicating that the area where you feel a deep, unfathomable need (marriage) is the same area where you work so hard to do the thing that you ***** it up or never can get started in the first place (marriage). This area is a real focus for you and, if you're like the rest of us, I'm sure you feel as though, if you could just get yourself married and settled down, everything else would work out okay and you would be fulfilled."
---Even when I was very young I always had this sort of claustrophobic feeling about marriage. Maybe I knew that this would be an area of difficulty for me somehow. I'm very wary of marriage even now, but relationships are an area of strong focus for me, definitely. I think I'm a pretty good partner, but I make bad choices (ha, same old story), so I'm trying to work on that.
I wonder how other people's Saturn/Pluto conjunctions/aspects have worked out.
"With Midheaven in Capricorn (conjunct Neptune, as mentioned above), you feel a drive to have a career, but your Midheaven sits on your South Node. South Node is sort of where you used to be, in your past life. This time around, you're supposed to be headed in the other direction -- towards Cancer (North Node) energies -- motherliness, nurturing -- and yet, you feel the urge to define yourself as the conventional executive who, if anything, is rather fatherly instead of motherly."
---Very true. I always envisioned having a successful career without much thought towards motherhood. It still is not something I'm very drawn to. I've always had a strong urge for independence. I'm very nurturing and attached to animals though, so I do have a heart, lol.
"I would guess the biggest "problem" you experience with this chart is that you keep getting your feelings hurt, partly because your feelings are very sensitive (like mine) because of all that Pisces/ Cancer stuff, and partly because you are sort of gullible and flakey -- you are open to the possibilities, which is sometimes a good thing and sometimes a difficult thing. Of course, it's the stuff that is difficult that makes us stronger."
---Yes, I'm definitely sensitive. I could stand to thicken my skin a little (or try to).
"Well, actually there is another area that might be causing you problems. Although I also have the Pisces Venus/Mars, with my Scorpio Ascendant, I commit. You may have a tendency to be unfaithful, which is a problem if you have this driving need to partner up with somebody."
---This has never been MY case, but I have been on the other side of this one. I actually don't like to be too enmeshed in a couple.....I stay single for long periods of time and then couple-up for long periods of time, too, but I enjoy the freedom.
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"Now, you worried that things never change with charts.
Here is your Progressed chart -- the way your planetary life map has "matured" or "aged."
Venus and Mars are in Aries on this chart. Lilith is in your 10th progressed house and Chiron is in your 1st house.
Progressed Sun will conjunct natal Venus probably in six months (Sun moves about one degree a year). This could be a very happy time for you. If you've had an unsolvable problem, it could resolve. You might fall in love (although I know from experience that even a nice planetary arrangement at the time of a romance does not guarantee its success). With progressed Moon in Sag, right now you are searching for life's answers."
---Hmm, sounds good. All this Saturn stuff has me a little....blah. I could use some Venus-ness
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"You originally asked:
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I also can't really get my head around how to deal with the bad stuff, like how to work with it or what to work on, and I'm very eager to work on it if I can just get a clear understanding of what the problems are. ... Has anyone come to a point where they really understood their chart and really understood how to make the best of it (and did/does)?
1. How to deal with the "bad" stuff--
Take the attitude that God don't make no junk. You are here for a reason, and the way you are is the way you are. Try to accept it, to a point. Don't make excuses to yourself for being the way you are."
---I think this is just the advice I needed. Thank you very much.
"A "normal" person would avoid getting hurt, but if you "use" your Pisces Venus/Mars the way I guess I used mine, I gave up on avoiding getting hurt, and decided I would rather be hurt by doing something stupid than be hurt by doing nothing at all. We Pisces types know how to heal. We'll survive. It just hurts us really deeply."
---I think in my case it couldn't hurt to have some set rules for protecting myself because I have made some pretty stupid mistakes, but also I don't know if it's realistic to NEVER get hurt. I could learn to be more savvy is all. For now I'm just taking some time for myself, and I actually like how much less complicated it is.
"2. How to work with it or what to work on --
There will be people who tell an Aries they should try not to be so brassy, or they'll tell a Taurean not to be so stubborn. Ignore this advice. Be yourself. It's hard enough to be your own self. Don't be somebody else's version of how you should be. There is no perfect person. We are all extreme personalities.
Aim to let your little light shine.
I hope this gave you some perspective."
---Also some very good advice I think.
Thank you so much for taking the time to delve into my chart. I really do appreciate it. (And sorry for the long reply but I didn't know how else to address all of it
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-Meg