lies, lies, lies ... what planets or aspects show this in synastry?

senzi

Active member
I know this person ( not a love interes) i just have a feeling that he lies to me, is untruthful and/ or has hidden agendas!? if a do a synastry chart what would show this!? the 12th house!? neptune? neptune in my 12th house !? what aspects!?

in my natal chart i have neptune in the 12 th house.
 

waybread

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In traditional astrology, Mercury rules lies and liars. If you read up on the mythology of the god Mercury, you can see that the ancient Romans and Greeks thought of him as quite the trickster. Sometimes Mercury is afflicted, but in a pathological liar Mercury may even be sextiled, suggesting that the person is excited (sextile) by lying.

Of course, Neptune is the master illusionist. Jupiter simply wants things to be great--and can get caught in a lie by being over-extended. Pluto enjoys working in secret. So a number of additional planets are plausible.
 

katydid

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senzi said:
I know this person ( not a love interes) i just have a feeling that he lies to me, is untruthful and/ or has hidden agendas!? if a do a synastry chart what would show this!? the 12th house!? neptune? neptune in my 12th house !? what aspects!?

in my natal chart i have neptune in the 12 th house.

Does this other person have any aspects to your Neptune in the 12th?
I would think they might if you felt that suspicious of their words to you.

A classic example would be their mercury or moon squaring or opposing your Neptune.
 

waybread

Well-known member
Froggy said:
I hear Gemini ascendants can lie...

A Gemini rising would have Mercury as the chart ruler. Worth checking out his aspects. Of course, it wouldn't be fair to label 1/12 of the human population (>500 million people) on this basis.
 

Solar_dark

Active member
Another idea would be to generate a composite chart and see what aspects exist for Mercury, the ruler of the 3rd and if there are any negative links to Neptune (where the truth is stretched a little too far) or Pluto (where words are used to manipulate..)

Walt
 
Also depends greatly 'why' people lie, is to save face or rather save people from hurt feelings. There has bee some great threads on AW. Try using the search feature, just like google with keywords....

Here's a few to get you started...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15544&highlight=deceptive+people
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7887&highlight=deceptive+people
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10435&highlight=deceptive+people
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13843&highlight=liars+conmen
 
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