Roel:
I think in a good debate, each side is shaken up to some extent. It is like a snow globe that gets shaken up, but then the snow settles to the bottom, arranged in way that is different from before it was shaken.
I was shaken by your work, but in a good way.
I can see that you are quite accomplished in the area of music theory.
I am just someone who practices karmic astrology, very much
on the applied end of things. Out in the field being of service to others.
I do have training as a scientist as well. However I have no music training,
so cannot critique your work from that perspective, but I can kick the tires
a bit and contemplate if and how tonal astrology can be integrated in some way
into my work. I guess we tend to put the broken mirror pieces back together in a
way that suits us and makes sense to us, for good or bad.
Getting you to admit sound is energy, OK, we are making progress.
Yikes, the amount of variables is indeed mind boggling.
I would recommend that for your first attempt at a tonal fingerprint,
you keep it simple. Start with the planets and then add more variables.
Each astrologer may want a different style fingerprint based on the work they do.
For example as a karmic astrologer, I am most interested in the Nodes, Moon, Sun, Chiron.
But I think a general use fingerprint is the way to start.
Oh that is interesting, I had no idea how you would depict the aspects.
Not as tones, but intervals. OK, that makes sense.
I will read the article you referenced.
And then you can combine sign and planet tones.
Wow, Ok. You really can do a natal chart tonal fingerprint.
So there are at least two tonal methods that could be used for the fingerprint?
You are working on the other one as well.
I will very much like to listen to the clip you have provided.
In terms of which one to use, I would think that if at some point people want to meditate or relax to the music of their natal chart, then the sound would need to be harmonious and pleasant?? Research shows that most humans do not react well to discordant sounds?
Also, my bias, in karmic astrology, the natal chart is a gift from God and a sacred document. It outlines our soul purpose. So I would hate to hear the tonal version of a natal chart sounding like a bunch of screeching monkeys.
I am sorry to put something on your "to-do" list. For the time being just let it perculate and cook in your head. When the time is right you can tackle it.
Julia
True, very true. And perhaps I might be "stuck" within a particular "framework" as well, who knows.
... maybe we just need to "shake each other up" a bit. Haha!
As one story goes, that truth was a mirror that broke and all who picked up a piece proclaimed holding the truth. My "work" is at best but another piece of that mirror and I ain't proclaiming it is "the" truth.
hehehe
That is true, sound is a form of energy too.
Yes, correct. Using a 360-tone system as base, that is what I am suggesting to create a natal tone fingerprint.
How much tones you will actually use then does still depends on how many chart elements you are going to use. Naturally the planets, but that could be the "classica 7" or the "modern 12" or perhaps even 15. Perhaps you like to add some stars as well ... or also the nodes ... or ...
Well, every planet that has some sort of atmosphere will have sound. Just like the Schumann Resonance Frequencies. Of course we aren't aware of them, they are in the range of the so called "ELF" (Extremely Low Frequencies) between approx 3 Hz and 60 Hz. Below 20Hz most people can't hear anything.
Anyway, if you're using the 360-tone system, then the can of course combine concepts / ideas ... so why shouldn't you combine things if that feels good to you.
Sorry to put something on your "to-do" list.
Just let it all percolate for the time being and see what happens.
I personally would not look at the astrological aspects as tones, but as the intervals between tones. Intervals play particular "roles" in music, just like aspects do in astrology. I think they "overlap" in some ways ...
About the intervals and their functions I also wrote a short article, maybe also an interesting read for you? http://www.roelsworld.eu/en/blog-mu...ic/the-astronomical-zodiac-scale-temperament/
A 360-tone system would be way more complex and sounds possibly less "harmonious" as this tuning concept above though ...
One day when I have enough time, I will explore all of this more of course.