The Great Disruption: US history

CapAquaPis

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whether or not the planet Saturn has anything to do with the course of events from its entry to Aries in March 1967 to April 1996 - a period known as the "Great Disruption" in the USA, when living standards went into a decline and social dysfunction increased for a period of time. More like it started in 1964 and ceased in 1993 - between the years of JFK's assassination (Nov 22, 1963) to the election of Bill Clinton to the presidency (Nov 1992). An entire Saturnian cycle when the USA entered a tumultuous, negative and pessimistic time: the first decade of civil rights activism and political protest violence (1963-73), then the second one of economic crisis and "malaise" of the American spirit (1973-83), and the last had middle class decline and record-high urban crime (1983-93). Does anyone agree Saturn have malefic influence on Americans in the time period?

EDIT: Further research into this topic has a surprising discovery: The Great Disruption was in fact the best time to live in US history, between 1964 and 1994 was the era when both the middle class (most Americans) and racial minorities had observed improvements and no digression in quality of life. Since 2000 (esp after 9/11, 2001), the middle class went into gradual decline. And since 1958 (the first federal civil rights act in 1957) there was general improvement for the social status and condition of racial minorities.
 
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CapAquaPis

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Here are other things I want to bring up: generations born under the "Great Disruption" from 1963/65 to 1992/94 are the ones having a hard time with becoming independent adults - the worst are the millennials (the last decade of this period), also it was generally harder for generation X (the first US generation to have it worse than their parents) and generation Y (that's me born in 1980). A person born in 1980 back in 2015 had a 50% chance to earn more than their parents. Someone born in 1945 have a 85% chance, 2015 only 15% currently. Critics claim the changing economic conditions, and that 20-somethings are just too young to fully prosper, but if you're born in the 1920s-you're established by 30, but in the 2000s-"wait" until you're 40.

Some sociologists place people born from 1980-83 as "pre-millennials", 1961-64 like former Pres Barack Obama as "pre-generation X" and 1941-44 like Bernie Sanders as "pre-boomers". My nephew born in 2000 would be a gen Alpha (Greek letters) or "Digital Native", since children born in the 1990s are "generation Z". Note the period of the Clinton Administration is the second peak of US history: the "8 years of peace, progress and prosperity" ended between 2000 and 2002. The election crisis of 2000, 9/11 (2001), Hurricane Katrina megaflood in New Orleans in 2005, the Great Recession of 2007-09 (economic expansion in the last 8 years) and the continuous wars on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq showed us the new millennia is a hard time in America.
 

CapAquaPis

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And one more thing to bring up in this thread: California went through decline, turmoil and crises from around 1980 to 2010 - peaking in the energy crisis of 2000 and the great recession of 2007-09 heavily affected the inland valleys. The economy in CA around 1990 was radically different from past years going back to statehood in 1850 (US annexation in 1848 from Mexican/Spanish rule). There can be Uranian and Neptunian cycles here: 1848+84 years=1922+84 more=2016, 2 Uranians. And 1848+165=2013 which makes a Neptunian cycle. What kept CA alive was 3 things: Hi-tech hub of Silicon valley in the North, the agricultural expense in Central valley and media hub Hollywood of L.A. in the South. We have 40 million people in this state, the 6th largest economy in the world if we're a nation, and influential in the world's lone global superpower.

Edit: my hometown of Indio CA went through some economic troubles, quality of life problems, and business vacancies - esp in its downtown, from around 1973 to 2003 - made worst by the closing of the railroad depot. But since then, Indio grew not vacated further, doubled in size (from 10-14,000 in 1970 to 97-100,000 today) and its outskirts (half the town) didn't exist in 1990 or 2000. Interestingly, Indio is the oldest, largest and county seat city (we're part of Riverside county), Palm Desert is the center, didn't really exist in the mid 20th century and wealthiest, and Palm Springs is the most famous and visited (we're the "Palm Springs, not Indio" area).

And my own life, after my parents divorce in 1986, the quality of life for me and family has not improved, less money came for us and other issues made me depressed, anxious and rather negative or pessimistic by the time I was 18 (1998). Seems to last almost 3 decades of my life. It might be the role Saturn plays for me, just like it can on entire places. Saturn is currently in Sagittarius (or Scorpio in sidereal), just like it was in 1987. I'm diagnosed with mild or high-functioning autism at age 4 (1984- I'm born Feb 15, 1980- Aquarius) and managed to live a fairly normal life, but there are obstacles and issues as an autistic person.
 
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CapAquaPis

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And 6 years later, I'm deeply convinced we have entered the Great Decline since April or May 1996 (for the USA at least)...and the trial period of Saturn's effects on Americans will last until May or June 2025, the following year until July 2026 which is the country's 250th anniversary just when Pluto is in Aquarius for 2 previous years and we're in the year Pluto is in the US' natal Plutonian degree (27-28' Capricorn or the degree of Mars) like it was on July 4, 1776 ... Pluto takes 247-248 years to orbit the sun in its irregular ecliptic pattern and sometimes is the 8th astrological but no longer astronomical planet of our solar system in certain periods every 2 decades or 20 years (1979-99, 1999-2019, 2019-39) taking turns from Neptune.

A vid related to the topic of where we're going as a country and the world's 200 other countries excluding the Vatican or Holy See is a sovereign nation under a politically neutral religious denomination (the Roman Catholic Church) is all going down in the world on fire in a dumpster inferno the double-20 's were.

4chan Nazbol/pol/trolls debate against the ProLibRightSociaLibs/ClassicLibs on the internet, while the aging conservative and Liberal establishment is gonna retire or pass away (the boomers are entering their 80s age range in the current year, the persons born between 1945-65), and I worry about the radicals of X-Y gens with earlier Zs (the last century Millennials) are reinventing the Left or Libertarian Democratic socialism to be anarchic but has a strong social welfare safety net the US hasn't had before, clashing vs the fringes of Gens Alpha-Beta with later Zs (the post-Modern agers) are playing around with fascism, communism, extreme socialism and raci(al)st nationalism to create a toxic ideology similarly to monarchy the founders of America rejected a long time ago to create an ultimate totalitarian tyrant state.
 
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