so I responded with a few comments and one of the reactions was
so I then said
All the evidence is that EVERYONE who has ever been born shall inevitably at some stage experience the process of death and dying. Obviously, therefore our death is predicted at the moment of birth - because without exception, all those who are born are on their way to their own personal experience of death.
.....a consistent and vociferous tendency to denigrate the astrological techniques that are the subject of this discussion - furthermore by many who have not even studied these techniques in any depth - is clearly influenced by some form of fear of death that makes such discussions taboo. That taboo is responsible for the general discouragement/mockery of the discussion of these techniques. Thus, anyone requiring any meaningful or useful discussion concerning these techniques is advised to join an esoteric group
That's a personal opinion of course... i.e. due to fear, the subject is kept taboo
There is a reason for any taboo SniperBomber and obviously an excessive fear of death leads to the taboo of fearing any discussion on the subject of death - HOWEVER as dr. farr has said on more than one occasion
But you frequently and categorically assert that you believe that "death prediction" using astrological methods is impossible
I said "if". That's a conditional.
On the contrary, IMO the statement is probably correct
All the evidence is that EVERYONE who has ever been born shall inevitably at some stage experience the process of death and dying. Obviously, therefore our death is predicted at the moment of birth - because without exception, all those who are born are on their way to their own personal experience of death.
Death clock astrology does not predict that everyone will die! We already know that. Duh-uh. A few astrologers claim to be able to predict the date and manner of death, which is very different.
On the contrary, a consistent and vociferous tendency to denigrate the astrological techniques that are the subject of this discussion - furthermore by many who have not even studied these techniques in any depth - is clearly influenced by some form of fear of death that makes such discussions taboo. That taboo is responsible for the general discouragement/mockery of the discussion of these techniques. Thus, anyone requiring any meaningful or useful discussion concerning these techniques is advised to join an esoteric group
You meant something else?
Of course we are all entitled to our own opinions poyi and IMO Medical practitioners and astrologers were predicting death long before the very recent discovery of the tiny dwarf planetoid Pluto. You have placed particular emphasis on the word TRANSFORMATION... remember that our physical, mental and emotional selves along with the entire universe are in a CONTINUAL state of TRANSFORMATION. Obviously tiny dwarf planetoid Pluto cannot be responsible for the TRANSFORMATION of ALL MATERIALS!
That's OK. Ronald Reagan was a failed 'B' Movie actor hence the "Make my day" style comments - although one clear talent he displayed was the ability to read a Teleprompter... but the problem was the content of the messages fed to him by that Teleprompter
Yes Pluto is only discovered recently but he was there long before us knowing about him! hahaha Who knows how long this little planet existing for?
IMO poyi the process of TRANSFORMATION is shared by Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn who require no assistance from a distant dwarf planetoid
Photosynthesis is just one example of the TRANSFORMATIONAL EFFECT OF THE SUN
Mars severs and separates (aka breaks down raw materials) while Venus then reconciles and unifies - tiny insignificant dwarf planetoid Pluto is unnecessary IMOThe other thing about Pluto which is to Recycle by rebuilding from broken down raw materials. Yep, I believe that he also functions in our body that way.
astrology is the ancient language of the starsYes this is very very true that in order to Survive/Create we must also die first. One example is when we are still embryos during the formation of our digits. There is a term as "Programmed Cell Death".
These links take about how important and the role of cell death during digits formation in human embryos.
http://skeletalsystemdev.weebly.com/appendicular-skeleton.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis
In many ways, I see astrology as the union of Science and Art~
IMO poyi the process of TRANSFORMATION is shared by Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn who require no assistance from a distant dwarf planetoid
Two thousand years ago or thereabouts, ancient astrologers stated the following:
The Sun’s nature is to select
The Moon’s nature is to gather and include
Mercury’s nature is to contest and to destabilize
Venus’ nature is to reconcile and to unify
Mars’ nature is to sever and to separate
Jupiter’s nature is to confirm and stabilize
Saturn’s nature is to reject and exclude
The process of TRANSFORMATION involves destabilization/contest (Mercury), severance/separation (Mars), rejection/exclusion (Saturn), gathering and inclusion (Moon) and at all stages selection (Sun) is required.... thus it is clear IMO that input is required from each of the seven visible planets... not to mention the fixed stars... I'm grateful to ancient astrologer Vettius Valens et al for writing this all and that the writing survived the centuries
Photosynthesis is just one example of the TRANSFORMATIONAL EFFECT OF THE SUN
Mars severs and separates (aka breaks down raw materials) while Venus then reconciles and unifies - tiny insignificant dwarf planetoid Pluto is unnecessary IMO
astrology is the ancient language of the stars
- aster = star
logos = word
that's ok - there's plenty more food for thought at this link on that particular subject http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43920
Dancing is fun
BUT its perhaps better to complete your assignments poyi or Saturn might take you to task on the matter!
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BUT its perhaps better to complete your assignments poyi or Saturn might take you to task on the matter!
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going through this thread, I thought of a perfect Simpson's Family moment. Excuse the poor quality... I was thrilled it existed out there in Cyberspace. (I tried Star Trek.... but no episode came to mind
I was thinking of Poyi last night and her family. To think of death immediately isn't surprising with the amount you work with daily. At 5 years old, many events are world shattering or at least bumpy. I wonder if it will just be serious issues with starting school and feelings of abandonment? My daughter had Saturn cross her Asc the day her younger brother was born.... Lots of nice Venus stuff, and she still adores him... but OH! the change in her demeanor has stayed with her. You can see she still feels a betrayal that attention was now divided... and that transit Saturn was the beginning of "you are the older one"... In her mind, her perfect world ended.
On president day, Kai wrote this blog on figuring death.... following the example, it isn't accurate and obviously does not take modern technology into account.
TK