Soul Contract by Farley Malorrus from "Twilight's First Gleaming"

FARLEYMALORRUS

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Soul Contract

This is a chapter from my book, Twilight's First Gleaming
Copyright, Farley Malorrus, 1987. Here is the Link for the Free EBOOK:
http://www.radioastrology.com/TFG/TFG-Cont.htm
This topic, aired on August 18th 1987, covers the contracts we make before birth dealing with choices, people in our life, free will choice, pre-destined events and agreements. All of this takes place for our personal Soul's growth and the evolution of our Soul.

By Astrologically choosing the time and place of your birth, you determine the nature of the effects you will experience in your life. In our Spirit form and on the other side which means the fourth or fifth dimension, before we are born, we make decisions about the lifetime we will be entering into. The interaction with other souls, choice of parents, is determined by the Astrological configurations at birth. Hence, your character, personality, talents, abilities, restrictions and timing for strengths and weaknesses will be formed from birth.

Many of you believe in free will choice, but this topic slants towards what you may have heard about free-will choice. I am sure, and have personally proved, that a human being sets his or herself up for what I feel to be every major rendezvous and experience in life. It is that before you are born, you literally make reservations with thousands of personal souls, Soul mates, and beings who will act as catalyzers for you to experience a karmic evolution. Everybody has a multi-dimensional consciousness, which means just because your father is walking around at 18 or 19 years old, with a flicker of romance for your mother, and they are about to impregnate a cell and create a baby, it still means that you can be in contact with their higher selves. Because everyone has this source consciousness that is beyond the human consciousness. So before each child is born, that child makes a contract with itself and many other beings to meet with them at a pre-destined time.

Naturally you meet your mother and father at the birth event, and the major critical souls involved usually are your family. It is difficult to figure this in human terms, but imagine someone sitting down at a computer and fixing their parents, and fixing their brothers, sisters, friends and all the people they will be working for. Every day of life is a cycle day in what we call the souls Akashic pattern. Before you were born, the Soul is totally aware of all of its past lives, and all of its experiences. It is also aware of destined patterns for what every lifetime it is about to enter. That is why I believe that the people you meet, the places you go to school, work, live, visit, and vital areas where relationships occur, are areas where you are encouraged to partake, because of prearranged decisions and contracts you made prior to your birth. This has much to do with the time, date, place and time we choose to be born in order to create a certain pattern of vibration to fulfill the necessary vehicle which entail upon this quest.

When you meet up with people and you know that you are supposed to meet them. For example, you are at a party and there are 150 people there, you might be destined to meet one or two. It is hard to imagine how powerful the human Soul really is. The human brain has 200,000 times the power of the greatest computer ever built. We are talking far beyond Cray or IBM here, understanding this God consciousness and the potential Soul growth, evolution, and overall awareness is phenomenal. Also recognizing that we do have tremendous consciousness before birth and are allowed to qualify into this dimension. Before birth you must go through a great qualification.

What about all the babies who will be and are aborted?? In case you don't know, they are entering this dimension knowing they will experience Karma in the form of abortion, so that vehicle for birth definitely would not be stable. It could also be a Karma for the parents. On the other hand, other entities, or beings, would come into this life knowing not only that they will be welcomed, but they would be nurtured, sometimes they would be attacked, or be born into hostile childhood's, or even traumatic to kind of shock them into awareness-consciousness. I tend to believe that whatever you run into in your lifetime, you have to believe, if you believe in New Age Metaphysical thought, that you have created it all, and you have prepared it all in many ways. You have made contracts with many beings.

Lets take a person out there who has had sex with many people, say about 40 people in their lives. If you take a look at how complicated it is to get intimate with even one person, it is not easy for a person to go out there and score a relationship, but for one person who is maybe 40 or 50 years old or a female who has slept with maybe 40 or 50 people. Take a look at the lottery for you to get close to those many people it is hard. I figure if you are meant to get intimate with someone, I sense that it is really meant to be. It is like having a mini-marriage situation. Let's look at work situations, someone files a job application in 40 different places, and nobody wants them. Then one day all of a sudden, there's the Karma, a corporation with whom a contract was formed with the president, and all the other people who work in that office. It is then that all the higher minds, the intuitive minds sense the vibration, and you end up working where you are supposed to be.

Now free will choice does play a big role in my mind as far as life is concerned. But Astrologically, we vibrate to the vehicle that we have earned, depending on the Karma, as well as the positive and negative actions and reaction we have set forth in past lives. This is an automatic process, its like water running down the drain, it is an automatic magnetic flow, when you throw a rock in the ocean and the ripples just balance right out. You just adhere to that certain birth point that you are most qualified to embrace. You make thousands of major contracts with other beings to meet with them at a pre-destined time. Life is really fascinating the way it works, when people come into your life. I believe that much of this stuff is predestined, set up and pre-arranged before life, because consciousness before life is so powerful that it sets up certain situations. It is like creating a major play, or a soap opera that will take place in your life, that you will be granted certain choices, so perhaps you could reach your highest possible evolution and Karmic growth.

If you look at this Soul-contract philosophy, then you think wow! I meant to get married to her, now I'm at these cross roads and now I have to make the choice. I'm also meant to have all these other contracts with all these other people, so I'd better not dwell on this contract, I'd better process and absolve it and let it go and see it as another peg in the ladder of life. Then prepare for the next experience or contract. Sometimes, people just wait around for these things to happen, and people just seem to pop in and happen at the right time. Often, I wish I had the consciousness that I had before birth, so I could see all of this stuff before it hits. But no, that is not the way it works. The higher mind of each of us hypnotizes us, and removes this pre-consciousness every morning when we wake up, and at birth we have lost most of it. We are not granted those easy hints, we have to do with intuition and emotion and experiences and try to make these decisions, and wade through this Karmic whirlpool we were born into. It would be too easy if we all knew what we were meant to do, and who to meet, and what the situations were, But each situation still gives us the potential for maximum Karmic growth experience.

Let's take an example of a small child that enters into a poor inner-city family. No food, no shoes, no socks. Drugs and alcohol used in the family, and right off the bat, there are early decisions of whether to take drugs and drink, because it is just lying around the house. As they grow older, they experience rejection by the kids in school, feel lonely and insecure like outcasts, and also they are given a choice to join a gang. Beyond that, when older, they are given a choice to rob a liquor store, to steal a car, to commit grand larceny, rape, murder, dealing in drugs, and even beyond that, their choices are taken away because they are taken to prison. In prison they have a whole new set of contracts to deal with, because we are talking about hard core Karma, if your choices are bad enough to send you into that kind of hell-hole, called prison.

So what we do is we set ourselves up to make certain choices. This is extreme, but these people who end up in trouble create their own nightmares, by making the wrong choices, you have to be strong, and hopefully have a strong astrological vehicle, some light in your life, some positive counseling and conditioning, something to give you at least the choice. Sometimes we can look at any one of your individual lives to figure out why we are in a particular gutter, because we made the wrong choice when confronted with this pre-destined Soul contract that we are dealing with. Like career choices, whether you might take a job that might not be ethical. A sales job where some of the stuff you talk about isn't really true, or maybe you take a job as a courier for illegal money, illegal income. Maybe you are involved with underworld activities, prostitution or something you could be arrested and jailed for. For some of your choices you just end up being hurt and having to understand and absolve from a Karmic debt, or other instant Karma you can be incarcerated for or institutionalized. So we are talking really hard core payment for that.

In order to summarize this topic; if you are aware of the possibility that we personally set up ourselves to meet, certain specific major individuals for our own Soul growth, this doesn't mean that you marry every person you meet just because you fall in love with them (like Mickey Rooney, Elizabeth Taylor or the Gabor sisters). They have married several times and each time they divorced, and were devastated by it. So look and the love and lost column and be glad you didn't marry them, but some people just jump into this stuff, of marriage, families, children, and business feet first. So you are offered the Soul contract and enter it, but then end up paying the price for making the wrong choice and that is what Karmic growth is all about. So being ethical, moral, selfless, humble and not being too greedy or selfish, are major keys in confronting any Soul-person or Soul contract you might have made before birth, and you know that.

Often, if you meet a person and you feel that they are a Soul mate, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a Soul mate. I feel that anybody that you have made a previous Soul contract with before birth, you can call a Soul mate because this was something you were destined to meet with. Not necessarily physically but in a relationship sense.

By plugging into this sacred Astrology knowledge that lies in the intuitive mind, and basically the topic is psychic and spiritual awareness. If you are a Pisces Sun sign (actually Pisces, Scorpio or Cancer) you will seem to be automatically more intuitive or plugged into what we call the intuitive mind, which plugs into the Akashic stream of consciousness, and basically plugs into the contracts that we make before birth. When someone seems to be psychic or intuitive, then what we believe to be true is that you literally plug into that part of your mind (the higher part of your consciousness) that has a script of many events that are about to happen in your life.

What are the various ways that you can lift your psychic, intuitive mind, and spiritual consciousness in order to plug into the intuitive mind and some of those contracts made before birth. This is why people with Pisces, Scorpio and Cancer planets in their chart especially the Sun-signs seem to be more intuitive, more plugged into that intuitive mind, the part of the mind that makes the contracts. Also, in case you have a Pisces, Scorpio or Cancer Moon or these as rising signs. Venus, Mars or Jupiter in any one of those signs and the more water the merrier (we call it) then the more intuitive you will be. The more you might be in touch with these Soul contracts that you are about to meet, or are about to happen in your life.

Those who are more intuitive or psychic when they see a Soul contract coming up they just go for it. These people sometimes meet people that they know they are going to meet, they know they are going to marry, they know they are going to have kids with, and they just don't resist it. They may even have vivid dreams of these forthcoming events. Some of us aren't nearly as psychic or intuitive, and some times no matter how New Age you are, you lack the water in your chart and you have no planets in the Piscean house energy which is the 12th house, or the Scorpion house energy which is the 8th house, or the Cancerian energy which is the 4th house, then these people no matter what they do (chant, pray, meditate, fast, diet, vegetarians) they still can't be a psychic or as spiritually aware as those of us with water. There are exceptions of course, which has to do with how the chart is generally formed.

The basic mission of life for the individual is a mission of love and light and spiritual understanding. However, many of us get misled. Some people walk around like acorns, having no idea of what is going on and they could care less, They get thrown through this emotional Vietnam of misery, suffering and tragedy in their lives. Sometimes people get to a point where they have had it with rejection, or they've had it with surgery, or feeling bad about themselves, their aches, pains and heart problems, back problems and depression and anxiety, and they will start searching for the answers. People into fundamental religion find that this is not the answer, that it's not the key.

So what is happening now in the New Age, since the Harmonic Convergence we are firmly planted in the Age of Aquarius and frankly peoples minds are opening, there is more clarity of consciousness. I would say there is definitely a shift of brain capacity going on with people on our planet. The more aware we become, the higher percentage of brain capacity and awareness that comes upon us, the more aware of the times that we thought to be true or everything that we believed to be so, the things we think we do know, many times aren't bottom line answers. So I have dedicated my life for a search of open-mindedness and further truth. Because whenever I settle on the truth there seems to be something beyond that. The interesting thing about Astrology is that I feel that every one is an Astrologer. I think that pre-birth on this cycle everyone is an expert Astrologer.

During my deepest meditations I discovered a level of vast information that just blew me away, it also taught me, trained me, and delivered to me, the vast information that you hear on this radio show about Astrology and Metaphysics, that part of the mind is called the intuitive mind. I discovered in Meditation starting around 1975 that there is a vast part of the mind that is like Genius, and everyone has it. It is a major part of ourselves that you can identify as the God-part of yourself, where the more aware you become the more knowledge and wisdom you discover that you already have.

The intuitive mind is what I call the store house of the sacred Astrology knowledge, or the Astrology computer that literally sets up the vehicle that we absorb at birth and gives us that uniqueness, that illusion of separation in this dimension, and also a vehicle that will be triggered many times during the lifetime through certain transitory cycles that set us up to meet people, break up with people, make friends and leave friends, to make residence, to make careers, to end careers, money surges or money depressions, and all kinds of up and down cycles that we put ourselves through, that is literally set up by the Soul.

If you want to understand this stuff in a more logical sense, imagine going to a college for 10 years, and setting up your course, for all the things you are going to study in that college. Registration is pure hell as you know if you've ever done it. All the best classes and teacher's are grabbed up first, and if you are late or get closed out, you end up with difficult courses, and the teachers aren't as good. These are the unwanted classes, but when we are looking at this example I like to identify the birth chart as a map of the curriculum that you have signed up to participate in this life cycle, as far as Karmic experience, Soul growth and potentials, if any. These things can be discovered by looking at your birth chart. What you are trying to do is plug into the Cosmic knowledge and metaphysical truth, that lies in the intuitive mind, plug into this vast ocean of consciousness (like they say we only have 5 to 10% of our brain capacity. If we had 100% we'd all be much better Astrologers than Farley Malorrus).

So whatever I'm doing doodling around with this science my higher mind dwarfs whatever knowledge I might think I know, just as all of ours does. It seems to be a natural metamorphosis that guides us to a certain date of birth, to a certain family of Karma, to a certain city of Karma, and the cycles in our lives that help us figure out exactly what we are meant to do, and what our purpose and mission is all about. That is why people that study, respect and really understand Astrology as a science, in fact have a major degree, because they are able to follow some of this curriculum.

Once you know what you are set up for in your birth cycle then you can set up and follow what we call the transits, which means that we follow the moving planets in the sky (the clock of the Zodiac) and we check and see how they set off the planets in our chart, since we are dealing with a cosmic magnetic system here when we talk about this solar system we live in, and this let's us know almost exactly what is coming up in your future. This is how Astrology works and it is wonderful, it's all about intuitive awareness or psychic or spiritual awareness.

Psychic or spiritual awareness is really a natural occurrence of evolution for people that study Astrology and Metaphysics. I also advise that people take up meditation, some form of chanting, anything that can relax and center your mind. Once I got into Astrology I plugged into my intuitive mind in about 4 days in meditation, I had so many miracles that happened to me that I thought wow! it is the same with all of you, there is much more to you than meets the eye, what your conscious mind thinks is true is only the tip of a major iceberg of awareness consciousness, of genius that we all have naturally implanted in our intuitive mind.

Those of you with the Pisces, Scorpio and Cancer factors (4th, 8th and 12th house planets), are maybe more prone or urged to get into Astrology, Metaphysics, and psychic awareness. People with specific factors will be encouraged, if they don't go into the Spirit, to be more self-destructive and get into more artificial means of consciousness. This is why people with water in their Charts and are not spiritual have more addiction problems with drugs and alcohol, it's an artificial means of altering consciousness, it is like pretend awareness, when you think that being stoned on a joint or acid is really pretty aware, but look what Charles Manson did, but that's an extreme example. I think that this topic is very important, because some psychic's out there that put Astrology down, and they claim to be psychic. To me there is something wrong with this, because I have found the people who are the most intuitive (and all of you whether you have water are not are intuitive psychic spiritual beings, you are capable of improving your psychic abilities, and more plugged into your souls destiny), by getting into the study of Astrology, and figuring out all the thousands of Soul-contracts that you made before birth to live out in this life cycle.

We can evolve so much more by embracing the more stressful periods of our life by understanding Astrology. I'm having a Neptune oppose Venus this month, which means my expenses are up, sometimes strange experiences with women, shattered dreams or shattered expectations. I could feel like a Slave or anchored to my life at times, because I know what a Neptune oppose Venus is. There are hundreds of different planetary configurations that we call transits, that we lay out for you in a transit forecast. We provide this service for beginners so they know what is about to happen.

The more you work with this stuff the more it begins to sink in and you become more psychic, not only will you begin to see in your birth chart what seems to be coming up for you, but you will develop a sixth sense that when you are around people whom you have Soul contracts with, you know it. When you are around a person who will become a future lover, it is hard to deny it. When you are looking for a job and are impelled to go to a certain company, when you stumble onto a radio station that will change your thinking through spiritual light. When you are looking for a new place to live, and you drive right to it, it's like letting your life happen automatically. It is important to go with the flow, many times, and not to resist. Don't take everything so personal, it is all a major hallucination or illusion created for your experience and Karmic benefit.

So becoming more intuitive, more psychic, and more spiritual and by learning and respecting Astrology, and by meditation and chanting and getting the concepts of authentic universal love, not romantic love, but a selfless love are all keys for you to become more spiritual, more psychic and more intuitive. And if we were approaching a bottom line what we are talking about here basically is plugging into that intuitive mind, in your higher mind area, plugging into that Akashic stream where all the knowledge is of all your past lives and future lives, and also plugging into those Soul contracts that you've made from yesterdays show and today's. This way when you go on through your life it will be much easier because you don't have to worry about things as much, or be confused as much and you can have more fun, more enjoyment, more enlightenment, and more awareness.

Free will choice does play an important role, because when you do sign up for the curriculum and all these events that you will go through in your life, by the family in the beginning, and by absorbing the Astrological energy at birth, you are setting yourself up to take certain courses. It doesn't mean you will pass or fail them all, it depends on what your free will choice is. When you are confronted with the pre-arranged courses you decided on prior to your birth, those are the deals made by your higher mind, that super computer that we talked about.

The questions I'm asked everyday about are: what's happening in my relationships, or How does my career look Farley. Or, what does my future look like Farley? These people want to know these things and they are impatient and they want my knowledge or expertise on the subject. What they are asking for is less pain and more comfort. Well, the best way I know is to sign up for becoming a member of the Astrology Hour is by ordering your chart, then roll up your sleeves and begin to learn the subject for yourself. Listen to the program and get involved, then we can begin to understand the urges that impel us to go out and meet people, break up with people, or have an emotional problem, or have emotional stability, or re-birth or the choice of being spiritual or addicted. We are definitely set up, and by following these transits you can organize your life and figure out what is heading your way as it approaches. Until you yourself understand the transits this is the best way we can teach them to you.
 

FARLEYMALORRUS

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I decided because this thread got ove 10,000 views, to repost it, with ME AS CORRECT AUTHOR. Channeled on my Radio Show in 1987.

I hope you all enjoy it. Thanks to Astrology Weekly for deleting the other thread from some lady who plageurized it..
Now it is here for all to read with the correct ownership..
Thanks again.
FARLEY MALORRUS
 
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bigblack

I am not sure you are correct when you write that their is a soul contract and as part of this contract we go about the fifth and or fourth dimension meeting and arranging engagements with other souls for this incarnation.

I certainly do not remember doing this before I was born. All I remember is looking back at my past life after I realised that I was still alive and coming to the conclusion that it had all been in vein, that where I was was real not where I had come from. yes I was standing with someone. Who he was I do not know. And then I was born.

I sometimes worry that there is a tendency to romantacise for ones own personal comfort. To give meaning and reason where there is non. To invent for ones own security - including monetary.

My personal slant is much bleaker. We are on our own in this life. Whoever we were with before we were born, and whatever is on that other plane, can not assist us. On this plain Darwin rules.
 

Mark

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Bleak indeed! Who was with you in the borderland? What gives rise to existence in the first place? How can you be aware that you are aware? Some questions demand answers and all the answers are there for the finding. All you have to do is seek instead of justify.
 
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bigblack

I cannot say who was with me where ever I was - but it was only one person, unlike the many people that are claimed to be contacted in this posting.

As far as answers go - instead of just plucking out of the air what you think makes sense with no actual proof - and I realise the irony because I cannot prove my claim, but I do have a memory of it. do you remember or is it all guess work after reading many sources - you only should claim what can be proved.

This is part of the reason why I do not "over reach", why what I claim is bleak. I cut out the extraneous, the unprovable, the stuff that would be just made up.

The best that can be claimed is that we are born at a random place, and everything for ourselves roles on from that event. Including who we meet.
 

Mark

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Would you like to prove to yourself that there is no such thing as random? Do what I did. Set about building the perfect random number generator.
 
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bigblack

Would you like to prove to yourself that there is no such thing as random? Do what I did. Set about building the perfect random number generator.
I'm intrigued - explain more please.

It makes me think of that philosophical argument that there is no free will. There are two reasons for this. First reason is that what we think at the surface level of consciousness has already been decided by the subconscious. The message has just been pushed to conscious level. Second is that once we decide on something whether it be a word a sentence or an action there is no room for any other way.

Or maybe you are talking about quantum mechanics and or physics where we influence by just looking at whatever.

Unfortunately astrology will show you just how much we are programmed, the more you learn the bleaker it is, but thats no reason to give in to the forces that keep most of the population living in so much fear that they have to resort to new age stories or religion to get them through the day.
Hence drugs sex and violence or anything else to stop them observing. Of course what they have not figured is that the best way to avoid is to accept/embrace. Cop out - tune in - and drop out. Be a part of this world but not a part of this world.

The best that can be claimed is that we are born at a random place, and everything for ourselves roles on from that event. Including who we meet.
What needs to be added is that we are born with a personality. I was talking to a neighbour and he was banging on about determinism. I pointed out if that was the case then because of my life experience I should be a real *******. He agreed that his determinism argument was wrong.

If I had not bothered to remember that other place I could indeed be a real *******, but something of what was brought with me remained intact and stopped the process.

Of course the book referred to in this posting could only be a bit of fun but the author forgot to mention that this was the case.
 

Mark

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I am a computer programmer and web developer. Every programmer with significant interest has tried their hand at building the perfect random number generator. It is an obvious need because nearly all modern encryptions are based on random seed numbers to begin their process. Because the process of encryption and decryption is widely understood, the unpredictability of the seed number is what keeps encrypted data secure.

Knowing this, I set about researching all the methods of random number generation that have already been tried. There are many mathematical algorithms, but those are all simply input/output systems. As implied above, if you use the same encryption method on the same data, starting with the same seed number, repeatedly, your encrypted output will be exactly the same 100% of the time. So, it is obvious that our encryption algorithms are only systematic methods of jumbling data. That is why the encryption can only be as good as the seed number used to start the calculations. If your seed number is predictable, your encryption is ineffective.

Moving on, I researched more elaborate systems built as hardware to do nothing but provide a completely random number. Some systems use the "electronic noise" on an active circuit to get a number. When you analyse this system, it turns out to be pretty strong, but not 100% strong. If the construction of the circuit you are using is known, as well as the voltage, amperage, modulation, and so forth running through it, you can narrow down the possibilities of what numbers will be produced. So, while I can't tell you exactly what number will be selected, I can narrow down a certain window of what will be produced and when. Therefore, the numbers produced by this method are still predictable to some small extent.

Further, I researched some systems that used barometres inside a spinning hard drive to detect minute fluctuations in pressure due to the activity of the drive. The same problems are seen, though. If you know the make and model of the drive, as well as how and when it is being accessed (information which is available to a computer program), you can again narrow down a window of numbers will be produced.

I researched this matter for days and contemplated it for weeks. What I realised is that all these systems (mentioned and not mentioned) tend to produce unpredictable numbers, but not random numbers. In fact, the more I thought about it, the more I came to realise that the purpose of a computer is to do exactly the same thing in the same way, over and over. That's why a computer can never escape predictability! This is how I came to realise that only humans can be truly unpredictable.

Everything in this Universe seems perfectly orderly and predictable (assuming you have all the information you need), except for humans. Plants and animals, cells, planets, moons, stars, galaxies, even atoms work in predictable ways. The only reason we can't effectively predict the behaviour of an atom is because it is on such a small scale that there is no way to observe it properly. In short, you would have to be close to the size of an atom in order to work fast enough and to gather the information necessary to predict the atom's behaviour. It seems to me, though, that if you could stand on an atom, you might see electrons passing over you like moons around a planet. Therefore, the fact that we can't predict atomic behaviour is rooted in our separation in scale, not the nature of the atom. Indeed, how could atoms come together to form such orderly molecules and objects (as orderly and predictable as chemistry) if they are truly random? What if all the pieces of your car acted randomly instead of predictably? Everything would fly apart immediately!

So, because I accepted the challenge of trying to build a system that uses something that is purely random, I discovered that there is no such thing. There is nothing that is random; only that which is difficult to predict. I actually used this realisation to produce a rather impressive pseudo-random number generator ("pseudo-random" is the proper industry term). It was only possible because I stopped trying to create something random. Once I realised that what I was really trying to do was create something that was impossible to effectively predict, it all became simple and easy.

P.S. If you would still like to claim that something in this Universe is random, please point at it for me.
 

Mark

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Given that I've just explained random number generation by computers, let's look at a slightly older lotto system. I remember the lottos that used air pressure to blow ping-pong-like balls around a plastic chamber. This is actually a great comparison to the observation of an atom. When run at full speed, the process looks pretty random. If you use a machine, however, to record the process and then slow the video down to a crawl, you can easily see which balls are about to be selected before it happens. It looks random only because you can't observe the system quickly enough. If the entire process were examined at 5% normal speed, you would actually get bored watching it. You could see the balls bounce and, according to known physics, predict how they will bounce because you can observe their position, speed, and trajectory. You could even read the numbers on the balls before they get selected.

I posit that there is no random thing in the Universe. All is predictable when you have the ability to observe the information you need. If you can't observe the information you need, that is not the Universe's fault. Some superior creature might see an orderly, purposeful process where we see randomness. In fact, isn't that usually the case in terms of spiritual development? The more developed your outlook, the more purpose and order you see in the Universe. The less developed your outlook, the more things look random. People who deny a purposeful Universe say that they live in a random universe, don't they? A post made by bigblack above shows this very thing. Randomness and structure are usually considered the two extremes of one spectrum. I say that this judgment of structure or randomness, as illustrated with the lotto example above, is entirely based on perception and not extant quality at all.

To simplify: what we usually mean when we say "random" is "unpredictable."

Caprising: Feel free to try again. :)
 

Mark

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Yes, precisely. That is the amazing part. Humans are the only unpredictable component. We're the only things out of order in the midst of this clockwork. Computers are based on the natural expressions of mathematics in circuitry. If you've ever seen assembly code, you know that everything in a computer functions as a carefully orchestrated series of memory calls and processor functions. In brief, this means that computers function in the same natural way as the rest of the Universe. Computers are perfectly orderly in the same way that the Universe is. We are the unpredictable element, but only when we want to be. I think if most people understood exactly how programmed and predictable they really are, they would dedicate themselves to spontaneous development.
 
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bigblack

I have been thinking about your arguments.

First, your contention concerning computers generating random numbers and how it is dependent upon the seed number. Isnt it said that a program is as good as the programmer, and I think that this analogy could be easily transfered to the machine hardware itself - ie the machine hardware is as good as who made it. Both machine hardware and software is flawed because the maker is flawed. Not only this but both the machine hardware and the software has it's own limitations as well. Maybe it was this that limited the ability to generate a random number.

As far as the lottery balls rolling around in the chamber is concerned a pretty sophisticated mathematical formula would need to be constructed to take into account all the variables that occur while the balls roll, bounces and collides with other balls. However the following may pour water on that idea.

The mathematical genius Turing deviced a mathematical formula that generated the randomness of the markings on a cows back as a by product of his attempt to determine where the human soul and personality went after death. At the same time on the other side of the iron curtain a russian scientist mixed some chemicals together in a beaker as part of his experiment to determine how energy was drawn from food. He found quite by chance that the mixture kept changing colour then going clear all by itself. Then an American meteorologist Edward Lorenz decided that he was going to device the ultimate mathemetical formula to predict the weather. however no matter how close he got something happened out of the blue concerning the weather. This was the guy who deviced the phrase "if a butterfly flaps its wing in a Brazilian rain forest, does it cause a tornado in texas". All of this is chaos theory. Its chaos that produces randomness. Chaos is the randomness. Things happen out of the blue, that cannot be calculated or expected as part of the calculation.

This goes against Newtonian physics that state that nature is a machine, and runs along predictable lines and if something does go awry then it was just a glitch in the mechanism.

Could it be that your theory is influenced by Newtonian physics?
 

Mark

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There's no such thing as randomness. "Chaos," as it is usually defined, is a state of disorder or, more appropriately, "unpredictable order." It is my assertion that nothing in the Universe is disorderly. That's why there can be no such thing as random. The only claims I'm making in this thread are that everything becomes predictable when 1) you can work on the same speed/scale as the system you're trying to predict and 2) you have all of the current information about the system. Knowing physics (the nature of the system) and the current arrangement of the system allows you to predict the next step in the system's evolution.

It would be terribly difficult (or nigh unto impossible) to devise a machine that could predict lottery balls more than a half second or so ahead of time. But the fact that you could predict which ball will be selected in the next half second demonstrates that the system does, in fact, work according to some known order. Therefore, it is not random. It can be predicted. It's just difficult to predict.

In reference to the idea that the machine is only as good as its builder, it is possible to get seed numbers that are nearly impossible to predict. The system I mentioned that I wrote is based on a Perl module called Time::HiRes. This module allows a Perl script to measure time down to the microsecond (one millionth of a second). It usually takes longer than this to perform the series of system calls necessary to get the current time down to the microsecond, so no two calls would ever get the same number. So, I wrote a script that grabbed the current time in microseconds and then flipped the number so that the last digit became the first and vice versa. This way, the seed number is obscure enough to be considered unpredictable, even though it certainly is not random!
 

FARLEYMALORRUS

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This Topic like anything Human can only be interpreted as speculation when it comes to the unknown. Food for thought as it may. I never intended for anything I share to be a bottom line, or "gospel," if it is in the Universe; it is only what a higher part of myself channels, and therefore I allowed to happen for 3,000 topics over 12 years on L.A. Radio...

This book I wrote along with this topic was channelled by my higher self. I make or offer no judgement on how accurate it may be as to what is real in the Universe.
FARLEY MALORRUS
 

piercethevale

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Farley!...When did you become a member?...I used to catch your 'spots' on radio in L.A. many a year ago...in fact my brother and I were just discussing you a few days ago...it was while living with Him in L.A. in 1984 that I was introduced to 'real' Astrology [by my brother]...I look forward to your posts.
 
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bigblack

This Topic like anything Human can only be interpreted as speculation when it comes to the unknown. Food for thought as it may. I never intended for anything I share to be a bottom line, or "gospel," if it is in the Universe; it is only what a higher part of myself channels, and therefore I allowed to happen for 3,000 topics over 12 years on L.A. Radio...
I am not sure what you are trying to say here. On the one hand you are saying its not gospel but then go on to say that you had a radio show with 3,000 topics. Are you trying to somehow backup what you have written with I have had a radio show in L.A. there it must be good or that its REALLY not gospel. Its almost like passive/aggressiveness but with different words. Maybe humble/bragging or fictitious/fact or failing/bolstering or something.

Dont get me wrong everyone is entitled to an opinion and I really would like to believe that you are ok but somehow with the above quote you have not come across like that.

Hell I could start my own theory and write a book on it, based on what I have written in this thread - trouble is I cannot prove it and because I like honesty and fact I really feel that I could not confidently do this with hand on heart honesty. I feel I would be making money dishonestly.
 

FARLEYMALORRUS

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Mr. Black (Soul?)
Judge not lest ye be judged my friend. I guess that's what freedom of the press and free speech is all about.
No one is stopping you or anyone from producing a radio or tv on whatever you wish..

Good luck with it.
 
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