Vista
Well-known member
Hi everyone,
I haven’t been on in a while so I hope this will not discourage anyone from answering. I am trying to wrap my brain around a break up I went through a week ago with someone who turned out to be a narcissistic, verbally abusive bully. I was aware that he was unusually short with me sometimes, but I really found out what he was all about when we went on vacation together. Unfortunately, I was stuck with him in the West Indies and had to try and keep the peace as any confrontation or “back talk” to him escalated everything to an whole new level.
What I am trying gain here is a little feedback on some aspects. On the first I thought we had some amazing connections, to the point that I was really excited in thinking this was my soul mate. I did realize there were a few challenging aspect, but I know that is necessary to have to keep the relationship interesting. Unfortunately, the few challenging aspects we had seemed to take over and our relationship and it went down hill pretty quickly while on vacation. My question is this, was I mistaken in thinking there was an amazing connection, and has anyone experience any of these challenging aspects in such a negative way in their relationships?
Me Him
Sun 18:48 Cap Sun 13:26 Cap
Moon 16:43 Cancer Moon 11:17 Pisces
Mercury 6:26 Aqu Mercury 17:28 Cap
Venus 2:42 Sag Venus 3:21 Sag
Mars 23:23 Leo Mars 26:21 Aqu
Jupiter 10:38 Pisc Jupiter 5:33 Virgo
Saturn 10:55 Aqu Saturn 6:16 Aries
Uranus 4:54 Virgo Uranus 29:13 Virgo
Neptune 15:16 Scor Neptune 25:45 Scorpio
Pluto 11:59 Virgo Pluto 22:50 Virgo
ASC 4:25 Aries ASC 15:36 Pisces
NN 29 Cancer NN 26 Virgo
Chiron 7:29 Pisces Chiron 25:39 Pisces
Vertex 1:52 Libra Vertex 23:46 Virgo
Lilith 18:43 Libra Lilith 11:33 Taurus
Eros 29: 19 Scorpio
First the good aspects:
Grand Trine between his Moon/ASC with My Moon and Neptune
Grand Trine Between his Venus and my ASC and NN
Kite formation with his Sun/Mercury conjunction and My Moon, Jupiter, Neptune Grand Trine(his Moon/ASC would also be part of this)
Sun conjunct Sun
Sun conjunct Mecury
Sun sextile Moon
Sun Sextile Neptune
Sun trine Pluto
Sun sextile ASC
Moon trine Moon
Moon conjunct Jupiter
Moon sextile Pluto
Moon trine ASC
Moon conjunct Chiron
Mercury sextile Venus
Mercury sextile Jupiter
Mercury sextile Neptune
Venus conjunct Venus
Venus trine Saturn
Venus sextile Uranus
Venus conjunct Eros
Jupiter conjunct Asc
Saturn sextile Saturn
*Composite chart is also excellent and also includes a Sun Moon Trine amongst almost all positive aspects
Now for the Challenging Aspects
His Sun Mercury Oppose my Moon – probably contributed to small difference on viewpoints, personal habits, etc. Probably not an overly prominent aspect
His Saturn conjunct my ASC – I believe this aspect really challenged my self esteem. I always felt that he was very critical of me and was always correcting me or becoming short with me over something I said.
His Moon opposite my Uranus/Pluto conjunction – Normally this would suggest to me lack of stability in terms of emotions coming from the Uranus individual. Kind of like sometimes you are in and sometimes you are out or never knowing exactly where you stand. Also, jealousy and power struggles. Interestingly, I seemed to play out the Moon side of this aspect.
My Mars opposed and Squared His Mars Neptune Square – I believe this aspect was one of the biggest couple breakers as it added a very volatile dynamic to our relationship. There was intense attraction, yet fights could start at a drop of a hat and escalate to yelling very, very quickly. I also never felt like I could really trust him.
His Venus squared my Uranus – Of course we all know this to be electric attraction and lack of stability, but I thought my Venus sextiling his Uranus would off set this. It also means sudden intense start to the relationship followed by an abrupt ending.
His Uranus conjunct my DESC- Today was the first time i noticed this aspect. I am assuming volatility and instability in our relationship. Me feeling off center about my self as Uranus would challenge who I am
as an individual.
Any thoughts how we could have so many great connections(at least 20), yet these few challenging ones seemed to rip us a part? My best guess that since Uranus was involved with half the aspects that lent itself to instability which would mean the relationship would have a hard time surviving; that coupled with the Mars energy of combat, in addition to the restrictive influence of Saturn could make for a really difficult time of things. Still, I would think with so many great connections it would off set that. Why did this happen?? I am really disappointed.I would also like to know for a learning standpoint as I do not want to make the same mistake again.
One other thing that could be important, my boyfriend had terrible childhood(his mom was sluttish according to him and was always trying to rope guys in to marry her, ditched him at age 15 to go live with his alcoholic father who he later found out wasn’t his father, she used to steal unclaimed luggage from the airport…it goes on and on). So…he obviously didn’t have good role modeling from his mother and does not have a lot of respect for women. I suppose this could very likely have a lot to do with how things played out for us.
Please, any thoughts anyone?…I feel a little discourage in that our charts seemed so compatible overall…
Vista
I haven’t been on in a while so I hope this will not discourage anyone from answering. I am trying to wrap my brain around a break up I went through a week ago with someone who turned out to be a narcissistic, verbally abusive bully. I was aware that he was unusually short with me sometimes, but I really found out what he was all about when we went on vacation together. Unfortunately, I was stuck with him in the West Indies and had to try and keep the peace as any confrontation or “back talk” to him escalated everything to an whole new level.
What I am trying gain here is a little feedback on some aspects. On the first I thought we had some amazing connections, to the point that I was really excited in thinking this was my soul mate. I did realize there were a few challenging aspect, but I know that is necessary to have to keep the relationship interesting. Unfortunately, the few challenging aspects we had seemed to take over and our relationship and it went down hill pretty quickly while on vacation. My question is this, was I mistaken in thinking there was an amazing connection, and has anyone experience any of these challenging aspects in such a negative way in their relationships?
Me Him
Sun 18:48 Cap Sun 13:26 Cap
Moon 16:43 Cancer Moon 11:17 Pisces
Mercury 6:26 Aqu Mercury 17:28 Cap
Venus 2:42 Sag Venus 3:21 Sag
Mars 23:23 Leo Mars 26:21 Aqu
Jupiter 10:38 Pisc Jupiter 5:33 Virgo
Saturn 10:55 Aqu Saturn 6:16 Aries
Uranus 4:54 Virgo Uranus 29:13 Virgo
Neptune 15:16 Scor Neptune 25:45 Scorpio
Pluto 11:59 Virgo Pluto 22:50 Virgo
ASC 4:25 Aries ASC 15:36 Pisces
NN 29 Cancer NN 26 Virgo
Chiron 7:29 Pisces Chiron 25:39 Pisces
Vertex 1:52 Libra Vertex 23:46 Virgo
Lilith 18:43 Libra Lilith 11:33 Taurus
Eros 29: 19 Scorpio
First the good aspects:
Grand Trine between his Moon/ASC with My Moon and Neptune
Grand Trine Between his Venus and my ASC and NN
Kite formation with his Sun/Mercury conjunction and My Moon, Jupiter, Neptune Grand Trine(his Moon/ASC would also be part of this)
Sun conjunct Sun
Sun conjunct Mecury
Sun sextile Moon
Sun Sextile Neptune
Sun trine Pluto
Sun sextile ASC
Moon trine Moon
Moon conjunct Jupiter
Moon sextile Pluto
Moon trine ASC
Moon conjunct Chiron
Mercury sextile Venus
Mercury sextile Jupiter
Mercury sextile Neptune
Venus conjunct Venus
Venus trine Saturn
Venus sextile Uranus
Venus conjunct Eros
Jupiter conjunct Asc
Saturn sextile Saturn
*Composite chart is also excellent and also includes a Sun Moon Trine amongst almost all positive aspects
Now for the Challenging Aspects
His Sun Mercury Oppose my Moon – probably contributed to small difference on viewpoints, personal habits, etc. Probably not an overly prominent aspect
His Saturn conjunct my ASC – I believe this aspect really challenged my self esteem. I always felt that he was very critical of me and was always correcting me or becoming short with me over something I said.
His Moon opposite my Uranus/Pluto conjunction – Normally this would suggest to me lack of stability in terms of emotions coming from the Uranus individual. Kind of like sometimes you are in and sometimes you are out or never knowing exactly where you stand. Also, jealousy and power struggles. Interestingly, I seemed to play out the Moon side of this aspect.
My Mars opposed and Squared His Mars Neptune Square – I believe this aspect was one of the biggest couple breakers as it added a very volatile dynamic to our relationship. There was intense attraction, yet fights could start at a drop of a hat and escalate to yelling very, very quickly. I also never felt like I could really trust him.
His Venus squared my Uranus – Of course we all know this to be electric attraction and lack of stability, but I thought my Venus sextiling his Uranus would off set this. It also means sudden intense start to the relationship followed by an abrupt ending.
His Uranus conjunct my DESC- Today was the first time i noticed this aspect. I am assuming volatility and instability in our relationship. Me feeling off center about my self as Uranus would challenge who I am
as an individual.
Any thoughts how we could have so many great connections(at least 20), yet these few challenging ones seemed to rip us a part? My best guess that since Uranus was involved with half the aspects that lent itself to instability which would mean the relationship would have a hard time surviving; that coupled with the Mars energy of combat, in addition to the restrictive influence of Saturn could make for a really difficult time of things. Still, I would think with so many great connections it would off set that. Why did this happen?? I am really disappointed.I would also like to know for a learning standpoint as I do not want to make the same mistake again.
One other thing that could be important, my boyfriend had terrible childhood(his mom was sluttish according to him and was always trying to rope guys in to marry her, ditched him at age 15 to go live with his alcoholic father who he later found out wasn’t his father, she used to steal unclaimed luggage from the airport…it goes on and on). So…he obviously didn’t have good role modeling from his mother and does not have a lot of respect for women. I suppose this could very likely have a lot to do with how things played out for us.
Please, any thoughts anyone?…I feel a little discourage in that our charts seemed so compatible overall…
Vista