Will I be physically involved with my Mother-in-Law?

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[poyi]

wow.........

Venus rules both the ascendant and 7th house...Venus in the house of sex 8th house in Gemini conjunction with Jupiter. Both Venus and Jupiter trine 12th house Mars. Mars opposition to the unpredicted Uranus in 6th daily activities, Uranus rules 4th house the end of matter of the event. It will affect your home. Uranus is unpredictable and can cause sudden event and destruction.

3rd house Pluto, pluto will affect your immediate environment, all family members other than your own biological parents but including relatives.

South north conjuncts both Jupiter and Venus, Venus is the ruler of both your ascendant and the 7th your mother in law. So the answer is if you do it SN will come in effect.

Saturn conjuncts your own ascendant. I suggest you to follow moral and lawful standard to avoid Saturn's judgment time.

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[poyi]

Also the clear tensions T-squares between 12th Mars, 9th Moon, 6th Uranus, and 3rd Pluto.

Pluto inconjunct Jupiter.

Sun rules Mercury, Mercury rules both Venus and Jupiter. Sun square the Saturn which conjuncts your own ascendant.

I suppose your feelings could be there. But it will cost your family obviously even without looking at horary chart, we can all guess that.

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[poyi]

Originally Posted by Undecided

I absolutely dont want to do anything wrong, as I know it will come and bite me.

The problem is I keep getting wrong signals (or atleast that's how I interpret them). Based on the chart would it be possible to tell if my mother in law is attracted to me? or will she initiate anything?

If yes, I will stop all communication with her.

Ascendant You and your mother-in-law both are ruled by Venus in 8th, mutual connections and in mutable sign, ruled by Mercury. Mercury aspects 12th house Mars in sextile...Be aware that Mercury is the most elevated planet similar to Sun (Sun rules Mercury also) in the chart in the house of "Public" 10th house.

Neptune in 4th, unclear family image, Neptune rules 5th house Pisces, the house of Romance is affected by the 4th house Neptune, even Chiron the wound is in 4th. The planet of illusion, confusion, romance, image of ideal love Neptune trine Moon, the woman in the sign of Cancer, a motherly sign, water sign and emotional. But this moon is part of the tension pattern of Mars, Pluto, Uranus. Moon rules Sun since Sun in the sign of Cancer, the male. But Sun and Moon no direct relationship at this stage.....


The ruler Venus of ascendant and 7th both aspect Mars in 12th, the energy from Mars is shared by both of you.

However, just my opinions. Should attach your chart for other to view as your link will expiry soon.

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[poyi]

In normal natal chart, Pluto in the 3rd house can represent "Secret" in the family.

Jupiter and Saturn are both planets of our moral standard. Neptune had put a mask over the face of Jupiter.

In normal natal chart reading, Mars, Pluto and Uranus can represent sexual tension. And again Moon as the female in Cancer sign.

My only personal suggestion is if you decide to do so, you should be aware of the full consequence of your own actions. Don't blame on because the Horary says so.

Please think of your wife and if you have children please don't be selfish for your own physical or emotional attractions and needs.

May God bless you and forgive you.

[waybread]

The stars don't force you to have an affair with anyone. Short of forced sexual assault, it would have to be a conscious choice on your part. So think about your spouse, first and foremost. Do you want to damage her/his life?

[dr. farr]

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary practice and uses whole sign house format)

1) By the Walis Magic 8 Ball divination method:
-mother in law = 10th from the 7th = Capricorn = Saturn = a "no" answer to this question according to 8 Ball "rules"

2) By Primary Ankara horary
-Part of Sexual Intercourse ( ascendant+mars-moon) falss @ 27 Sagittarius, significator = Jupiter
-querent = 1st house = Libra = Venus
-Venus flows away from the POSI = - testimony
-Venus seperates from (flows away from) Jupiter = - testimony
-Jupiter flows away from the POSI = - testimony
-Jupiter is in its detriment in the sign of Gemini = - testimony

Answer to this question by primary Ankara horary, is a definite "no"

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[Zonark]

How do you feel about discussing this with your wife? If the thought of her knowing that you desire to sleep with her mother is something you think might upset her, perhaps you should refrain from asking yourself speculative questions such as this. Does it really even matter whether or not either of you are sexually attracted to each other? Contemplate the real intent behind asking such questions.

[unteruber]

This is not a forum for passing moral judgment. And even if you are tempted there is a good possibility that his in-law is making the moves, resulting in the man being triggered that something might happen. Since our societies blame men for sexual infidelities and since this is taboo subject he cannot safely discuss his concerns with most leaving him the option to seek horary or similar guidance anonymously.

He is being very responsible to weigh out any remote likelihood of such a possibility, and to take all steps to eliminate it - including horary guidance.

Although given the seriousness of this situation and ramification on his life he needs to mention this to people he trusts and assert the boundaries to his in-law.

Originally Posted by Zonark

How do you feel about discussing this with your wife? If the thought of her knowing that you desire to sleep with her mother is something you think might upset her, perhaps you should refrain from asking yourself speculative questions such as this. Does it really even matter whether or not either of you are sexually attracted to each other? Contemplate the real intent behind asking such questions.

[poyi]

Is true he is only asking for help before mistakes being made.

I do understand both sides the for and against, and truly I can't judge him myself. At least he admitted his concerns and weaknesses as human we are all the same.

Originally Posted by unteruber

This is not a forum for passing moral judgment. And even if you are tempted there is a good possibility that his in-law is making the moves, resulting in the man being triggered that something might happen. Since our societies blame men for sexual infidelities and since this is taboo subject he cannot safely discuss his concerns with most leaving him the option to seek horary or similar guidance anonymously.

He is being very responsible to weigh out any remote likelihood of such a possibility, and to take all steps to eliminate it - including horary guidance.

Although given the seriousness of this situation and ramification on his life he needs to mention this to people he trusts and assert the boundaries to his in-law.

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[waybread]

Undecided, one other thing that occurs to me is that there may be a competitive dynamic in play between your wife and her mother. It is not a pretty sight, but it is not entirely uncommon for the older woman to try to out-compete with her daughter in matters of attractiveness. If your antennae are out, you may have already noticed whether or not your mother-in-law behaves in this fashion. In which case Mom's come-on signals may be less about you than about whether she can score one against your wife.

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[waybread]

Can you post your and your mother-in-law's natal chart? Also your wife's? We need a birth place and location; and ideally a birth time. If you can't get a birth time, just input it as "unknown"-- you will get a chart with no houses but this is better than a chart where the houses might be completely wrong and misleading. Be sure to anonymize everybody's charts unless you have their permission to post them. This would help to understand the dynamic in your family situation. [Note: this isn't horary astrology but should be helpful to your question.]

You appear to have a good head on your shoulders, thankfully. And the issue isn't so much what your mother-in-law expects of you-- notably if she is coming on to you inappropriately, but also your expectations and boundaries.

Obvously having an affair with your wife's mother would be a huge betrayal of your wife. You can never be sure that she wouldn't find out, and it would probably lead to both a divorce from you and a complete estrangement from her mother. Also not a good thing to do to your father-in-law.

One other possibility might be whether Mom-in-Law's behaviour could be classified as a light-hearted flirtation. Maybe she's hoping you will complement her back or something. But of course, you would get different vibes if this is what she's up to.

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[Undecided]

Sorry, I think that chart above is incorrect. Based on her passport details, the chart that came up is attached here.

Thanks all!

[waybread]

Undecided, hopefully you know your wife's birth date and location! On the other hand, I understand that some countries do not record birth data; and even in the US, sometimes people are so anti-government for personal or religious reasons that they have their babies at home and don't get the births registered.

Do you come from a culture where it is very common for the older mother to rule the household? Such that the adult children and their spouses are expected to be very deferential to her? If so, this might explain some of your confusion in what appears to me to be a clear-cut moral issue.

Going with the second chart.... your MIL has a very "watery" nature, meaning that she tends to perceive the world through her feelings and emotions. With the fire element rather strong in her chart, we get someone who likes to act or take the initiative, based on how she feels. She has very little of the air element in her chart, meaning that even if she is highly intelligent, she tends not to access the world through a mental, logical approach. She is rather low on earth, suggesting that she also tends not to view the world through a hard-headed sense of practicality; except that Saturn strengthened in its own sign of Capricorn would reinforce any "authority figure" personal or cultural tendencies she may have.

So I can't say whether or not your MIL is physically attracted to you personally without seeing your chart, only that if her emotions were running high, it might be difficult for her to detach from and think through the implications of her actions, or to view the situation in a more pragmatic way.

I'll try to speak delicately here. She does have some indications of a strong sexual nature, with Mars conjunct Venus and Uranus, squaring Jupiter. Mars and Venus are the "sexy" planets, with the square to Jupiter creating a dynamic of "if a little is good, a lot is better." You may not be in a position to know whether she has been faithful to your father-in-law, but I suspect she has been nevertheless sorely tempted sometimes, if so.

For reasons outlined in my previous post, whether or not there is good chemistry between the two of you, this is not any kind of affair a considerate man would get into. It's bad enough when a wife finds out her husband is having an affair, let alone with her best friend (which happens.) Imagine how devastated she would feel if she learned that her husband slept with her own mother.