Why did they lose money? Because they had no need to know the answer and no business asking the Question. For their sin, they were punished by losing money (or losing face if they didn't bet money and were walking around with the big head saying the Steelers would win).
What if they needed the money for a life threatening operation, or to feed the local homeless people?
So what if they did?
Why they needed the money is of no importance whatsoever.
Again, I suggest you read the texts.
What is the Trunk and what are the branches of this tree?
The "Trunk" is the Natal Chart.
For no one is born or asks in a good hour, and under a good and fortunate Ascendant, unless he is fortunate and one whom goods and fortunes are supposed to surround.
And no one is born or asks under an evil and unfortunate Ascendant, unless he is an unfortunate man whom evils and misfortunes are supposed to surround.
Thence we see that certain people are fortunate, certain ones unfortunate.
Everything is tempered by the Natal Chart. If that bothers you, then I suggest you find another method of divination.
As I said, if one's Natal Chart does not show that the Native can earn income through gambling or other speculative activities, then one cannot. That's just how it goes.
If I could earn money through gambling, stocks, bonds or futures trading on the commodities market, do you seriously think I would be sitting here right now?
Hell no, I'd be a millionaire.
But I can't do that because my Natal Chart says I cannot earn money through gambling or speculation. I don't even like gambling. I've never been to a casino and will never go. I don't even play the lotto or play poker just for fun, and if I play Euchre, Hearts, Tunk or Whist, I won't play "nickel a point" or whatever. I don't even like money, which is probably a good thing since my Natal Chart says I will never have a lot of it (I won't even be better off than my parents were).
Some people have the Lot of Fortune well situated, the ruler very strong and fortunated by a Benefic and maybe Jupiter trine the Lot of Fortune and those people will on occasion have good luck and they might actually get some modest winnings betting on sports or at a casino or through the lotto once in a Blue Moon, but other than that, they not get anything.
However if their Lot of Fortune is not well placed, they wont get squat, and it doesn't matter how the money is to be used.
That is astrology.
I live in a part of town where people sell Food Stamps to buy lotto tickets or to shoot dice on the street corners. You tell me.
Of course it's a "sin." It's arrogance, indolence, insolence, a bad use of money and time trying to satisfy an infantile urge; I could think of an hundred reasons.
That's how it works. Same with Questions about the "Ex." Your "Ex" is your "Ex." The fact that your "Ex" is now enjoying life with someone else is none of your business and you have no right to ask if they will marry or divorce or break-up or whatever. Your punishment for asking that Question is more suffering.
What about your children?
What about them? You seem to have a penchant for nit-picking and can't grasp the concept of generalities or distinguish between that which is rational and that which is irrational.
Don't you have the responsibility to ensure that your children are in "safe hands" rather than being subject to a cruel meglomaniac? We have the right, and the responsibility to ask that very question.
Of course you do, and despite your attempt to spin or twist it for whatever strange bizarre ends, I never said, suggested nor implied that one did not or could not.
A rational person would instantly recognize the difference between "
What is my 'Ex' doing now?" which is a Question that is frivolous, irrelevant and silly asked only out of selfishness and to satisfy morbid curiosity and "
Are my children being physically or sexually abused during visitations with my 'Ex'?" which is a legitimate Question, if asked based on reasonable fears or concerns.
Is your co-worker doing "it" with the Boss? You have no right to ask that Question and no need to know the answer.
What if they are both married, breaking the 10 commandments?
So what if they are?
That's no concern of yours, unless you are God.
So, are you? God?
Strange. We have astrological texts written by the pagan Greco-Romans, Arabic Christians, Arabic Jews, Christian Muslims, Jewish Muslims, Jews, Muslims, Catholics and Protestants (and Jewish Catholics and Protestants) and none of them ever inject their religion into astrology. Seriously, what is so Christian about Lily's Christian Astrology?
And then we have you bringing the 10 Commandments into it.
Congratulations.
However, change that slightly. Suppose your co-worker was after your job and was doing "it" with the Boss to get your job. Now you have a right to ask the Question and a need to know the answer because you are directly affected by what is happening. Your livelihood is at stake here, and the loss of your job could result in financial disaster, because without an income your car may be repossessed or your home foreclosed upon and you may end up in bankruptcy. As an older woman, your career might even be at stake. Being older, you might not ever be hired in your career-field again, and you may have to change careers.
Your going to be affected if your co-worker is screwing the boss, they will get any promotion that comes along, and have the influence to get you the sack!
You're reaching on that one. Regardless of what you might believe, Horary is not a tool to spy on people.
Now your birth chart does come into play here for some questions. If your natal chart says that you will earn money and wealth through gambling or speculative activities, like betting on the stock market, or gold, oil, corn, soy beans and such on the futures commodities market, then you can use Horary to help you choose investments or betting on sporting events.
Even so, there are limitations to that. If your natal chart says you are Lower Class and there is no change, then you're Lower Class and all the gambling and speculation in the world will not advance you to the Middle Class, but at least you'll have some income. So for every Horary Question that leads to a successful gain of money, there'll probably be two Horary Questions that intentionally give the wrong answer to ensure that you cannot earn enough money to escape the Lower Class.
So the gods have "classes"? To be in the high class you have to be ruthless....that kind of makes the claim about asking the wrong questions and getting punished for asking the wrong questions seem kind of.....trivial
What gods?
For a second time, you've corrupted astrology by injecting religion into astrology.
That one has to be "ruthless" to be wealthy is an inherently false premise.
What was the Democrat's argument against the Republicans during debates concerning the Bush Tax cut? It only affects about 350,000 Americans? That is to say only 350,000 Americans earn more than $1 Million per year.
There are 308 Million Americans so 350,000 would represent 0.11% of Americans (which was the whole point of the Democrats -- letting the tax cut on those who earn more than $1 Million expire would affect only 0.11% of the population).
Gosh, if it is so easy to be wealthy, then why do only 0.11% earn more than $1 Million per year?
If it is so freaking easy to be wealthy, to change one's class to the Upper Class, then shouldn't there be at least 1%? You barely have 1/10th of 1%.
That only serves to prove Astrology. Some people are born wealthy, some are not. Some will be elevated from the lower classes to higher classes, perhaps being more wealthy and successful than their parents ever could be (or ever dreamed of being). Others will obtain wealth, and then lose all or part of it. Some who are born wealthy will also lose all or part of their wealth.
And then there are those like Cash Amburgy (and his Big Bargain Barn), who go from rags to riches, and back to rags, to riches and back to rags and then to riches (six times he amassed wealth and then lost it all and had to file bankruptcy), and that is what he was supposed to do. That was his life for better or worse (he was a generous jovial man who lived life to the fullest all the time so I seriously doubt he ever regretted it).
Again, as all texts state in plain ordinary terms, everything is rooted in one's Natal Chart. Horary cannot possibly alter or conflict with what the Natal Chart says (or with what Profections, Solar Returns or Primary Directions indicate).
If someone's Natal Chart says they cannot or will not have children, then Horary will never conflict with that.
Likewise, if two people are not destined to be married or to not marry until a certain time, Horary will not conflict with that either.
I always laugh when I recall the "
News of the Weird" article about a woman who wanted so desperately to marry a guy. Her astrologer said she wasn't supposed to marry yet and he was the wrong guy and something bad would happen if she married him. So to prove everyone wrong, she marries him in a civil ceremony (her parents wouldn't pay for the wedding and her friends refused to attend because they all said he was the wrong guy) and as their car enters the highway it's struck by a truck and she dies.
Gotta love astrology.
So no, you just can't ask any Question you want just because you feel like knowing the answer to something.here? So does there have to be a life/death need to ask a question? Is there some sort of censorship issue
Once again:
4. Judge not upon every slight motion, or without premeditation of the Querent, nor upon sight and triviall Questions, or when the Querent hath not wit to know what he would demand.
No, just a legitimate reason (from the point of view of a rational person, not an irrational person who is insanely jealous or has to know everyone's business "just because" or a nutter or one who is grossly immature or one who is seeking to abuse knowledge or engage in acts of a questionable nature).
Seriously, even if you paid Lily or Bonatti or Zael or Masha'Allah $100 Million in gold they wouldn't read 90% of the charts in the Horary section because they are frivolous.
No, it means that what ever happened, happened. Neither you nor anyone else can change it, and it also means you know the answer
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If he/she knew the answer he/she wouldn't be here asking
That is simply not true and demonstrates how little you know about Horary.
If you were familiar with Horary doctrine and concepts then you would know that an Ascendant in the late degrees indicates that the Querent already knows the answer to the Question.
I would suggest you actually read Horary considerations. Querent's sometimes ask Horary Questions out of fear, panic, sheer frustration or desperation. The astrologer cannot know that until the chart is cast.
The 143rd Consideration, Is to understand the true method of judging, and by what ways you may come to some result, that you may examine and rightfully discuss the same, and discover the truth of what the stars shall show? And herein there are 14 points to be considered and heeded:
1) Whether the Querent proposes the question really and intentively or not? For if the Lord of the Ascendant and the Lord of the hour be in the same or the Signs wherein those Significators are placed be of the same Triplicity or complexion the Question is serious; but otherwise, if the Ascendant shall be the end of any Sign, the Question is not Radical
; if the later degrees arise, the matter of the Question is elapsed, and it’s probable the Querent hath been tampering with others, or despaires of any successe; however, the Heavens advise you not to meddle with it at that time.
I'm real sorry about your luck.
Generally, when we have an Ascendant in the later degrees, we know the Querent already knows the answer, or that time has passed to the point that nothing can be done.
We then look to the Moon. The Moon in the 12th House, Cadent, Peregrine, or in anyway impaired or impeded shows the Querent to be acting out of fear or desperation in addition to the fact that the Querent already knows the answer to the Question.
This chart is not Radical and not fit to be judged.
Those of us who actually know something about Horary know that there are times when events occur and the Querent has not had time to properly mediate or ponder the Question. We also know that Horary makes an exception to that.
If a parent of the Querent is rushed to the hospital due to an heart attack, and the Querent calls their astrologer to cast the chart and the chart is not Radical, we read it anyway, because of the urgency of the situation.
Horary says you can do that. The texts say you can do that, when there is an urgency to the Matter.
The OP's Question has Zero urgency to it, and the chart is not Radical, so it is not fit to be judged.
Even if we were to reject that, the Moon is Void of Course, meaning nothing will ever come of the Matter. I would say the Querent is wasting their time pondering a useless point.
With the Peregrine Void of Course Moon ruling the MC, I'd even say this has absolutely nothing to do with numerology and everything to do with the Querent not liking their name and is using numerology and Horary in an attempt to validate their belief that they have a reason not to like their name.
Bob, your trying to indoctrinate people into your "belief system" of ancient astrology
Your conclusion is severely lacking in evidence.
I'm familiar with Horary and used quotes from texts. If I would be indoctrinating people, then it is to what is actually written in the texts by the Ancients, unlike you, who provided absolutely no textual support for your baseless conclusion.