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Old 04-02-2009, 03:23 AM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

Ok, you have two charts one Wales lost agains Germany and the second Turkey los in extended time against Spain.I predicted Turkey to win or draw but I did not check the whole match as usual, that happens when you predict the match using chart for the beginning of the match.
I was not so sure about surprise Wales to win but I wanted to.
Well both teams played in red jerseys.
I would like to read someone's explanation especially about Turkey.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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Ok here I enclose Tommorow soccer match Poland league Odra-Wisla Plock
Take a great care, this image is a trap if you predict upon that base you might be wrong.
Why?Becouse in just two minutes POF changes house and make conjunction to the Moon,the ruler of the 10th house
now there are some rules from Frawley book:
-If the Moon is ruler of the 10 house that house is excluded from aspects.Ok.Why?
-If the ruler of the 10th house is in conjunction with POF Lord 1 wins, sorry L1 is favoured.Ok.How favoured?
-If dispositor of POF make app conjunction to POF L1 wins?
At the other side we have ASC via combusta, L1 in the 6 house almost totaly crashed.
I would not predict that rest is up to you but if I am pushed to preidct I would predict
total 1 goal or more in the first half. or on the edge 2+ goals in the first Half.
What I want to tell you that if you have so many oposite testimonies it is difficult to predict.
If we make the list with prority status of aspects than we would know what is the strongest and the weakest
aspect, measurable.
Now We have the rule-Last moon aspect with the Lords 1,4,7,10 that team wins.Good
Last moon aspect is with the ruler of the 7th house MARS or aplycation aspect with the ruler of the 4 house SATURN
which will happen tommorow late afternoon.Well, joke.
What to chose when the offer is so wide like on vegetables market.
I think I understand if any loses than problem is with ORBS,if any wins it is according to one of the rules.
If draw there are many testimonies on both sides.
And that is what we call prediction of the greatest astrologer.EEEEEEEEEEE he he.
I wish all of you to predict right, anyway reasonable excuse awaits for you.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:49 PM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

Please post new chart because on this coordinates are for Belgrade?
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:56 PM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

And date is wrong, you said tomorrow's match, but chart is for today.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:23 PM
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If time is right, there are 2 scenarious depends of sport kit of Wisla.
Odra's home sport kit is blue with a little red.
Wistla can dress red/white kit, or only white kit.

1 scenario Wisla in white
Odra is DSC as darker sport kit.(Ma-little red in Pi=blue)
Wisla is ASC = Ve, Li white

2 scenario Wisla red/white
In that case Wisla will be DSC, because ruler Ma is in mutable sign, 2 colours( Pi can mean white also) and ASC will be Odra because ruler is in moveable sign, not mutable, and Ve=blue in Ar=little red.

AMa is on 14 Li 49, by JF that would be testimony that DSC team will lose.

Wisla is strong favorite(thay are on top of list, Odra on bottom). Moon is VOC (draw or favorite). According to this, Wisla can not lose, so it seams thay will play in white dress and win.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:08 PM
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Sorry to all,
I wanted that chart to be analized even I made a mystake
,this right one is easy
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:17 PM
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Hm I am disapointed well My prediction is 1 and more in the second half,brrrrr,
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:57 AM
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Well just for the heck of it. And it is not the first time but it was one of the first ones I had done when Scorpio was on the Via Combust AC. Breaking my own rule!! But hey... follow me with this because I did it two days in a row.
It was Hockey. Tonight I bet that N.Y. Rangers would lose against Carolina Hurricanes. Now a lot of you would ask why I did it. Look at the chart at the end of the game. 1st H is Scorpio. 7th H is Taurus. Mars is looking too good and in the 4th H. Venus is retro and combust.
To me... the Moon would mean very little in the chart. I instead went by planets. Obviouse Mars was going to be King.
Of course the same pattern was yesterday. But be very very careful with this. Like I said, I never never bet when AC is via combust. But hey when you see Venus retro and combust... it speaks for itself. Hope you and I learned something with this experiment. V/r LionKing I won both days!

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Old 04-03-2009, 09:10 AM
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Ha, you are not the only one with breaking own rules, I predicted yesterday Boston to win so the Boston won but that is not what I call astrology.Becouse I expected Carolina to win,I did not play but i expected.If you see i predict very rare NBA I still check how to place teams.Yesterday Tau Ceramica lost against Barcelona I do not have pisture from that match but Panathinaikos won in Siena and Olimpiakos in Madrid.What is wrong with Tau.When I check I will give an answer till we 'investigate' these problems rule still stands:'Do not predict when ASC is Via Cimbusta'.I hope you agree.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:18 AM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

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N.Y. Rangers would lose against Carolina Hurricanes.
Congrats for your prediction! I only have a technical note. Carolina Hurricanes plays in Raleigh, North Carolina, at least I think so; wikipedia claims the same, and if you read the game's recap at NHL.com, it's Raleigh there as well ( http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2008021152 ). I'm saying this because your chart says it's Charleston, South Carolina. I don't know the distance between these cities, and if the chart might be different when casted to Raleigh, though.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:08 PM
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Ha I realised now Carolina WON yesterday I checked in the morning and thought that it lose,but now well that is as expected oh I feel satisfied but I still do not know what happened with Tau Ceramica.
I use Raleigh for Carolina that is their home city as I know but in this case I would say that is almost the same basicly makes no difference.The rule itself is the most interesting well but if Tau does not align with this than we have problem,again of course I like more to brake the rule about VIA COMBUSTA.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:43 PM
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Well I will place you a chart and picture might be it is more than i can get but interesting position of Moon and POF.Place in your software and watch what will happens in the next few minutes after match starts
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:34 PM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

I see 2 testimonies for ASC team, Barcelona.
Moon in its own sign right on MC
AMa inside 1st house.
For DSC team Tau, I see 2 testimonies too.
Moon sex Sa, L4
Moon square AMa
But as you said, we miss exact points what is stronger when we have equal number of testimonies.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:53 PM
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Good good good in excange of well well well.
May we try to check one wery logical and inspiring rule 'Who controls the Moon controls the game-winning'.In the next matches I will check that postition especially.
In that chart Moon is controlled by tenth house.
Or Antiscion of the ruler of the opposite house in the enemy's house but in both of cases that situation lasts only about 15 minutes.That is pretty long time but during that time Barcelona was losing the game that is not logical.If Antiscion action is hidden might be that we could not see the next phase, I will take care anyway.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:58 PM
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Ha, possible, Moon favours ASC team but in a square with the AL7 it is bad aspect so one bad testimony,
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:09 PM
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I checked matches played at the same date and time but none pf them had the same situation all of them had the AMa inside the 1st house but not so close and not the Moon close to the 10th cusp inside.Philosophically it is the exception when it is better to be controlled than on contrary to control.
The team controls the game not the game to control the team, ok make sence.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:01 PM
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Fulham-Liverpool

I predicted Fulham-Liverpool today (London, 17:30 local time). L1 was Venus (Fulham in white), L7 was Mars (Liverpool in red). In ACC DIG I counted 14 / -7. (During the game, the ASC (and DESC) haven't changed sign, although ASC became via combusta at the end of the game.) So X2 could be played. Result was 0:1. My question is about Liverpool's goal. Examining the chart, I see one change that could indicate the goal. Venus, L1, went from H6 to H5. But, Venus was "assigned" to Fulham, and Liverpool scored! Am I calculating something wrong, or it happens that team A's planet changes house -> team B scores a goal?
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:03 PM
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In ACC DIG I counted 14 / -7.
I mean I counted 14 for Mars-Liverpool and -7 for Venus-Fulham.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:54 PM
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You were right about placing the teams and about noticing that they did not change sides when ASC-DSC axis changed,it is ok even axis changed very near the end of the first half.But what is more important about goals.There are more than 800 (eight hundread) aspects for scoring the goal and it is not what Frawley explained not even close to.His explanation is far from reality.If I tell you that at that match the SUN square MC scored the goal you will stay far from predicting at the same distance becouse it happens under some circumstances logical but nowhere explained.You need the key but even than you need to change the way of understanding the sport prediction.
It is not NATAL.
I have written that even semisextiles are involved and it seems that nobody believed me.
I tried to show you the only way if you want to predict goals, I wrote that aspect are involved,I wrote to all of you that even some points and dust in the universe are involved.I wrote that you all can check about 1000(one thousand) matches at least,I checked them more than three thousands for now and still I did not finish exploring but I am close to.without checking it is imposible to find why and when the goal can be scored.Even than you have to make a choice,will treat any aspect like possibility for goal or like I do treating the aspect as energy.That is why I suggested not to predict goals when many matches start at the same time.As it almost never happens that you have only one match at the time predict when there are two matches.But even than you will notifie that one aspect does not score the goal always.For me that is energy of an aspect.How much energy to be splited at the some matches nobody knows.Yet.
But to predict the outcome of any match starts at any time, yes you can.
When I wrote about the values of an aspect I just wanted to have clear situation which aspect is strongest.Without those points, those measures there are no testimonies to count.How to count when you have no values.
In Serbian we have a proverb sutible for all of us we are like gooses in fog.
Ok I think next month I will make anoncement for course in Belgrade for soccer prediction but as I am not profesional astrologer I must check will I be allowed to do such thing.I do not even know to predict what the weather will be tomorrow.But I know who will not lose soccer match.
Now after this story let us go back wh will not lose.Well I placed the chart for TauCeramica,basketball match ane there you can find might be the strongest testimoby who will let say win.Who controls the game and already the Lord of the enemy's team.That happens rare but not to forget.Even ACC dig and ESS tell us different.
That is the reason why I checked all rules from that stupid book again and again.I wrote not to predict when ASC is Via Combusta.That is becouse I have no idea what will happen but as LIONKING wrote we do not have to be affraid when Venus is Rx and combust.Well any planet in that situation.
That is not a close to what Frawley wrote,not even close.Just becouse he did not explain exceptions.That is the point.But another explanation for us is what are exceptions?Exceptions are the best way for explanation the situation while we do not know the roles any planet and point acts in astrology chart.We do not know them if we do than there will be no exceptions.
Ok I gone to far.
Do not predict goals like you do,well do predict but not for bets.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:36 PM
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The man who can predict even total of goals at one match,not the exact score will be the reachest man in the world,ok I hope you will be satisfied to be the fifth on the list.
I predicted sometimes match with final score 0:0 that is easy.Exact score is always guess if you do not know the time when the goal is scored.And Frawley was honest when he said that his prediction was educated guess.
Even today whe can only make guesses not exact predictions.
Well I tested my skill to predict the points in one basketball match as it was match Partizan-CSKA but I cannot predict exact score.It is still a long trip.
Let us go back to reality if we can give just a single word to any planet not to explain the planet,might be it will be the way.Like Venus beaty is the weapon but in the beatle it is useles.But to rule the king who rules the kingdom it is deadliest weapon I know.
Ok in these days we had on one side the beauty without make up and brutal force without the brain,Mars.Ha, position, Venus was lost without help of luck POF and without ruler of the game.In any case.So the bright team always lost.Isn't it?This is just an observation just an idea.If somebody follows might be we can find the golden pot. If axis changes it depends at what moment it changes as we have ruler changed houses one and seven.Why I see Pluto as ruler of Scorpio and not Mars.In one way pluto is weaker becouse Pluto fuctions in flashes and mars is continual power (in short period). I do not want to write about people borned Mars.I do not have them near me.And there is the reason.
The point of all of this is when we find the right words just a single word we will understand it all.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:16 AM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

ATT75 I was going to refer you to BF but he already gave you the answer to goals. BF is better than I at that one. Still trying to figure out the Hockey thing on my side. I do believe it would go by the same method. Oh by the way I would have said that 7 H is the winner. Good call! V/r LionKing
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:51 AM
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It goes on the same base for sure,but it has three parts of the game(human's idea) and it can make somethimes problems but let say : count as the one third lasts about 40 minutes, right and the whole match for about two hours.Regulary you can predict goals in the first third precizely.What is the problem.The problem is with jerseys 'couse all guest teams play in light colors.
Sometimes I missed.If I am just an astrologer I would say that it is imposible to predict the winner but thanks to God I place bets and I made a strategy.Voila.I predict only matches where favourites are home teams.They do not have to be on ASC side.Place them according to the ASC or DSC rulers and what color and brightness they represent.
You will have the same but bigger problem with NBA league.
By the way, try to predict hockey in Europe it is easier and of course basketball in Europe.
One of reasons why I predicted Boston to win for sure in hockey,I mentioned in earlier texts and not my sweet Carolina was the problem with jerseys.
I mean colors.Carolina team play in red with little white stripes on jersey.I decided to awoid becouse I missed some matches I believe only becouse of that white stripe on almost any jersey but if you have peace of black.dark green on jersey than you could place team with mostly red on the darker side.
This month it was the problem where to place red colored teams with white shorts.With dark red one colored jersey no but mixed Oh my God.
By the way what is BF in your text
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:57 AM
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If any of you can find the software which Olympus photo unit used to count middle values for exposure that software uses several spots from an object of photo and calculate it in the middle gray or it automaticly gives the best exposure for making picture.
As I do believe that problem with colors is the problem with quntity of light I thing that is the way to solve it
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:34 PM
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Ha! I was just shorting your name to BF. I know in text it is 'boyfriend' but not to what I was writing. (I don't swing that way anyway....ha!) I didn't mean anything other than shorting your noun name. I hope I didn't offend you in any way. I still think that your a pretty good sport astrologer. You do a lot of what I do, but your scoring is one up on me! Hmm... I'll have to gain some ground back on that. Ha! Thank you for your response.
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:41 PM
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Re: John Frawley is stand up philosofer

You know I'm still experimenting on the hockey jersey. Of course I will adapt it to the other sports. Since I have been doing this a year and half. I have really dedicated myself to it. I have the same theory as you 'every game can be predicted' you just have to see the flags of winning and the pit holes of losing. Oh don't worry... I have lost. It all comes with the challenge of game ship. I wish you well. V/r LionKing
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