Stellium in 11th house
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astrologer50
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stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm
Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special
refixindex/category:
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/
http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php
planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm
Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special
refixindex/category:http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/
http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php
planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
By their very nature, Stelliums are complex. In your case you have five planets in Capricorn (ie a stellium in Capricorn). You have mentioned houses in relation to cusps and this is a much debated topic so I shall refer you to useful and helpful comments already made on the subject that you may find helpful
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36069&page=2
Caro
Well-known member
You have had the pluto transit to this stellium recently. it has passed over your saturn and is now between saturn and neptune. Also transit of saturn in libra would have squared your cap planets.
Prior to this in last few years - your sagi planets were squared by uranus in pisces, saturn in virgo!!
There have also been the grand cardinal cross in the sky which may have triggered quite a lot in your chart. (since last year July and more recently this July)
hmm you have had quite a lot to deal with in recent years....
Prior to this in last few years - your sagi planets were squared by uranus in pisces, saturn in virgo!!
There have also been the grand cardinal cross in the sky which may have triggered quite a lot in your chart. (since last year July and more recently this July)
hmm you have had quite a lot to deal with in recent years....
astrologer50
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http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/hone.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA167&dq=astrology+equal+house&as_brr=3&ei=i0iJS-PlGo3mygS89Nn8DQ&cd=2#v=onepage&q=astrology%20equal%20house&f=false
EQUAL HOUSES
“Another of the three most popular house systems is Equal houses which is just what its name implies. All the houses have the same degree on each cusp, and there are no interceptions. Equal house systems are especially useful for people born in the northernmost and southernmost latitudes, and this system is the most popular one in use outside of the United States.”
http://www.esotericapublications.com/art-eso-011.htm
“Equal house system is the only system that is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit. The zodiac is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit around the Sun which comprises of a 360 degree circle that surrounds the Earth. The mid-heaven is often more, or less than ninety degrees (three signs) from the ascendant, therefore it is not often placed on the tenth house cusp, but marked where it appears in the mid-heaven according to the latitude and longitude of birth. The mid-heaven is taken as an important point; it is the point of self-mastery.”
http://marianneohagan.com/house.htm
“The simplest approaches, the equal-house and whole-sign methods, merely require knowledge of the ascendant or ascending sign, and an equal division throughout the rest of the zodiac eliminates the need for any complicated calculations
Yet recent research into classical astrology has created a renewed interest in these simple techniques from a more scholarly perspective. The point of strength is that, regardless of the originating theory behind house division, in practice at least, classical astrologers tended to tie the houses to the signs, apparently concurring with Pelletier, who wrote in defence of the equal house method”
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/houprob4.html
http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/hone.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA167&dq=astrology+equal+house&as_brr=3&ei=i0iJS-PlGo3mygS89Nn8DQ&cd=2#v=onepage&q=astrology%20equal%20house&f=false
EQUAL HOUSES
“Another of the three most popular house systems is Equal houses which is just what its name implies. All the houses have the same degree on each cusp, and there are no interceptions. Equal house systems are especially useful for people born in the northernmost and southernmost latitudes, and this system is the most popular one in use outside of the United States.”
http://www.esotericapublications.com/art-eso-011.htm
“Equal house system is the only system that is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit. The zodiac is erected in the plane of the Earths orbit around the Sun which comprises of a 360 degree circle that surrounds the Earth. The mid-heaven is often more, or less than ninety degrees (three signs) from the ascendant, therefore it is not often placed on the tenth house cusp, but marked where it appears in the mid-heaven according to the latitude and longitude of birth. The mid-heaven is taken as an important point; it is the point of self-mastery.”
http://marianneohagan.com/house.htm
“The simplest approaches, the equal-house and whole-sign methods, merely require knowledge of the ascendant or ascending sign, and an equal division throughout the rest of the zodiac eliminates the need for any complicated calculations
Yet recent research into classical astrology has created a renewed interest in these simple techniques from a more scholarly perspective. The point of strength is that, regardless of the originating theory behind house division, in practice at least, classical astrologers tended to tie the houses to the signs, apparently concurring with Pelletier, who wrote in defence of the equal house method”
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/houprob4.html
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JUPITERASC
Well-known member
To clarify then: the question Njorwhald has asked is: “Can anyone help me decipher my stellium in the 11th house?”
In my opinion the question cannot be reasonably answered without pointing out that the stellium (being composed of five planets all in one particular Sign, in this case the Sign of Capricorn) can ONLY appear 'in the 11th house' if and when using particular house systems (of the more than 40 house systems currently in use in the mix of today's Modern astrology as well as Traditional astrology.)
This is a learning forum and those fairly new to astrology may be unaware of these interesting facts and in order to answer their question and to help them towards 'deciphering their stellium', it is only fair to inform the relative newcomer regarding the existence of the many varieties of astrological house systems and to briefly and helpfully explain their rationale, particularly since all threads are not read by everyone.
My point is not only that the position of any planet in any house is entirely dependent upon the house system used (which within the context of the question asked by Njorwhald is a reasonable comment to make) but also that Modern Astrology is entirely inspired by and also dependent for its delineations (with the exception of those made regarding Uranus, Neptune and the possibly dwarf planet Pluto which is currently recognized as the prototype of a new category of 'trans-Neptunian objects') upon the Traditional Astrology from which Modern Astrology borrows ad lib whilst simultaneously claiming ad nauseum to be entirely separate!
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In my opinion the question cannot be reasonably answered without pointing out that the stellium (being composed of five planets all in one particular Sign, in this case the Sign of Capricorn) can ONLY appear 'in the 11th house' if and when using particular house systems (of the more than 40 house systems currently in use in the mix of today's Modern astrology as well as Traditional astrology.)
This is a learning forum and those fairly new to astrology may be unaware of these interesting facts and in order to answer their question and to help them towards 'deciphering their stellium', it is only fair to inform the relative newcomer regarding the existence of the many varieties of astrological house systems and to briefly and helpfully explain their rationale, particularly since all threads are not read by everyone.
My point is not only that the position of any planet in any house is entirely dependent upon the house system used (which within the context of the question asked by Njorwhald is a reasonable comment to make) but also that Modern Astrology is entirely inspired by and also dependent for its delineations (with the exception of those made regarding Uranus, Neptune and the possibly dwarf planet Pluto which is currently recognized as the prototype of a new category of 'trans-Neptunian objects') upon the Traditional Astrology from which Modern Astrology borrows ad lib whilst simultaneously claiming ad nauseum to be entirely separate!
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astrologer50
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If you intend to learn about astrology, you will need to begin with a natal chart, it need not necessarily be your own, but many choose to begin this way, in an effort to better understand their own life journey, and purpose. Astrological natal charts are as individual as a persons ‘fingerprints’ depending on where (latitude & longitude) and time of birth.It is important to get your *time of your birth* as this is the most important information.
Here are my personal recommend beginners links to focus upon Natal charts:-
I hope that you come here and want to learn about astrology and join in with exchanges. There ever expanding Education forum here and lots more to explore. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12556
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/#continue
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natalastrology.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/inner-outer.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrolgy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_sign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_vocation2_e.htm
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/tutorial2.htm
http://soulhealing.com/tutorialwest.htm
dhundhun
Well-known member
It makes you a loner, deserted by friends. Friends will use you, deceive you. In in due course of time, you are likely to make professional friendship, career related friendship.
This type of chart (stellium with malefic in 11th) makes late twenties and early thirties very difficult and challenging. You are in early twenties and likely to start getting hits from this stellium.
This type of chart (stellium with malefic in 11th) makes late twenties and early thirties very difficult and challenging. You are in early twenties and likely to start getting hits from this stellium.
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Caro
Well-known member
when I first started with astrology I used equal house it made sense to my logical aqua brain. have since been introduced to other house systems.
(you can run different charts on astrodienst)
I think once you have studied events in your life you pick the chart that seems to suit you best.
In equal house my venus is in 5th house and that makes a lot of sense to me in understanding my interests - ie I love theatre.
you are not having a very good introduction on here _ i do hope that someone offers you some helpful advice. there are very experienced astrologers on the site and as you can see opinions do vary.
sorry to hear about your twin brother. you do have some formidable squares to your moon. - how were things with your mum?
(you can run different charts on astrodienst)
I think once you have studied events in your life you pick the chart that seems to suit you best.
In equal house my venus is in 5th house and that makes a lot of sense to me in understanding my interests - ie I love theatre.
you are not having a very good introduction on here _ i do hope that someone offers you some helpful advice. there are very experienced astrologers on the site and as you can see opinions do vary.
sorry to hear about your twin brother. you do have some formidable squares to your moon. - how were things with your mum?
dhundhun
Well-known member
You do aerobic exercises, that'd improve personal aura.
Also, does silver jewellery suit you? That could help improving relationship.
Good luck.
JUPITERASC
Well-known member
As astrologers, at some stage, when we became sufficiently interested, we all discovered that it is necessary to begin at the beginning! So, in a sense, the answer to your question rests with you Njorwhald. You find yourself in the intriguing world of astrology where you are feeling confused because you have just discovered a very basic astrological fact (better known to more experienced astrologers) - which is that the house positions of your planets and angles are dependent upon the house system utilised. Looking at the questions you are now asking, it is clear that you are aware that you have no knowledge of house systems (and are therefore unable to compare and contrast their relative merits and demerits) so you cannot have a preference! At this stage, since this is a learning forum, my personal advice to you is that you investigate house systems! So here is a link to the Education Board where Aquarius 7000 has posted a very useful Introduction to Astrological Houses from which you can discover the basics. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15927
Your confusion is natural and understandable Njorwhald because you are after all a complete beginner! But this does not mean you should not be looking at what planets are in houses at all though! On the contrary, what this means is that you need to clear up the confusion by discovering more on the subject! Looking at what planets are in your houses is a good place to seek the meaning of your natal chart and in order to do this competently, it would make sense for you to begin by experimenting with drawing up your chart using different house systems - because in that way you'll have a visual representation of how the various house systems affect the appearance of your natal chart. You can then compare the meanings related to the varying house positions of your planets and decide for yourself which house system best describes your own experience. You'll find it interesting!
I note that you used astro.com for your chart drawing. If you return to astro.com then (1) choose the free chart option
(2) then click on 'Extended Chart Selection' which brings you to a page on which you'll see the word 'Options' written (to your left as you look at the computer screen)
and below 'Options' you'll notice that written at the same level of the words 'House System' is the word 'default' (which you'll discover is the house system known as Placidus)
Click on the word 'default' and a drop down menu selection presents you which a choice of fourteen different house systems
you can now choose any house system you like,
just click on your choice and the name of the chosen house system appears in place of 'default'
Then looking to your right as you are facing the screen you'll find highlighted with white letters on a blue background the words: 'Click here to show the chart'
when you have done that successfully you shall have an immediate visual of your chart in that particular house system! You'll then see visually why it is that your stelliums house position is dependent upon the house system that you use! When you wish to experiment with seeing your chart in another one of the fourteen house systems on offer you'll find a yellow box outlined with a thin red line which states 'Back to chart selection' - that's just above your chart drawing and to your right as you are facing the screen - clicking on that brings you back to the house selection page and you can choose another house system
here's some good advice I found on another thread
and here's some more!
Exactly
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astrologer50
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Within the mainstream here on AW of placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) the *Angles* NEVER EVER CHANGES (with the exception of whole sign/which takes the Asc to 0' of that sign, the sign never changes but the degree would).
Ascendant is always Ascendant, MC is always MC. only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple
there are small obscure practioners (never seen on AW myself) that don't use houses at all even, like Uranian cosmobiologists for example. So really don't worry about this kind of matter.
all this technical stuff for newcomers to astrology must be confusing so just keep it simple, like I suggested. There is no need to over complicate matters at this stage. Take your time, it's like learning a new foreign language after all.
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astrologer50
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slightly off topic, you have an unaspected sun and sun/moon singletons
unspected planets
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.innerself.com/Astrology/unaspected.htm
http://classiclegendbooks.com/martinschulman-astrology-articles-17-unaspected-planets-1.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Unaspected.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/unaspected/unaspected.htm
http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/dde3467b-df04-4a45-94c8-7aeb8e91e741
Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm
Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm
Saturn in the 11th house
· Hard to obtain goals and objectives but they can be attained if the person will be patient and willing to work. Have to earn everything with this position of Saturn. If it is done the rewards are great, and life gets better as it advances.
· Many acquaintances, but few intimates.
· An unrecognised fear of the demands made due to friendship.
· Attracted to older people. Saturn may delay but does not deny objectives.
· You will have a strong sense of responsibility towards friendships, groups and team work. You will seek to know important people in order to advance your status and self confidence by taking notice of their wise advise. You will be cautious concerning your own principles.
· Social standing very important.
· These people either keep themselves to themselves or overcome their shyness by joining societies in which social life is centred around a purpose, sometimes political. Friends are often older and more experienced.
neptune in llth House – succeedent house
Unusual, idealistic friendships and group associations. Generosity and spiritual guidance received from friends. Sensitive to the needs of others. May join spiritual groups.
View friends in idealistic manner. Your idea of sympathetic friend ‑ sympathetic ear! Also your ear would be bent from your friends and this would be an area of comfort for you.
Sacrificial things done for friends that others wouldn't.
Can even wear the rose‑tinted glasses here, because you will think they were worth it. Bad aspects cause disillusionment, even so would have been worth the price (perhaps moved away or emigrated, but even the memory would be cherished). Encourage spiritual groups of like minds. Non‑competitive team work. Inspire others and friends ‑ nurturing.
Uranus in llth House – succeedent house
· You will be open‑minded and concerned with truth and facts very humanitarian and forward looking.
· Many unusual friends of high intelligence. Want to be able to learn from friends and group activities and team work.
· You will find mentally and spiritually stimulating. Strong sense of equality.
· Unpredictable changes where goals and objectives are concerned. Person will change his mind a number of times before he settles into his life work.
· Two types of friends: the conventional Saturnians and the bohemian Uranians and never the twain do meet.
· Feelings of sympathy and antipathy very strong but changeable.
· social connections and relationships that suddenly turn ugly, disruptive, or simply terminate almost overnight. Friendships suddenly go astray, unforeseen dynamics and issues suddenly and irrationally appear
Saturn conj neptune is a 'fear of the unknown' and can indicate depression. Ruler of 11th Jupiter retrograde will inevitably delays any of life's *hopes and wishes* plus have saturn here indicates delays, frustrations
unspected planets
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.innerself.com/Astrology/unaspected.htm
http://classiclegendbooks.com/martinschulman-astrology-articles-17-unaspected-planets-1.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Unaspected.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/unaspected/unaspected.htm
http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/dde3467b-df04-4a45-94c8-7aeb8e91e741
Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm
Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm
Saturn in the 11th house
· Hard to obtain goals and objectives but they can be attained if the person will be patient and willing to work. Have to earn everything with this position of Saturn. If it is done the rewards are great, and life gets better as it advances.
· Many acquaintances, but few intimates.
· An unrecognised fear of the demands made due to friendship.
· Attracted to older people. Saturn may delay but does not deny objectives.
· You will have a strong sense of responsibility towards friendships, groups and team work. You will seek to know important people in order to advance your status and self confidence by taking notice of their wise advise. You will be cautious concerning your own principles.
· Social standing very important.
· These people either keep themselves to themselves or overcome their shyness by joining societies in which social life is centred around a purpose, sometimes political. Friends are often older and more experienced.
neptune in llth House – succeedent house
Unusual, idealistic friendships and group associations. Generosity and spiritual guidance received from friends. Sensitive to the needs of others. May join spiritual groups.
View friends in idealistic manner. Your idea of sympathetic friend ‑ sympathetic ear! Also your ear would be bent from your friends and this would be an area of comfort for you.
Sacrificial things done for friends that others wouldn't.
Can even wear the rose‑tinted glasses here, because you will think they were worth it. Bad aspects cause disillusionment, even so would have been worth the price (perhaps moved away or emigrated, but even the memory would be cherished). Encourage spiritual groups of like minds. Non‑competitive team work. Inspire others and friends ‑ nurturing.
Uranus in llth House – succeedent house
· You will be open‑minded and concerned with truth and facts very humanitarian and forward looking.
· Many unusual friends of high intelligence. Want to be able to learn from friends and group activities and team work.
· You will find mentally and spiritually stimulating. Strong sense of equality.
· Unpredictable changes where goals and objectives are concerned. Person will change his mind a number of times before he settles into his life work.
· Two types of friends: the conventional Saturnians and the bohemian Uranians and never the twain do meet.
· Feelings of sympathy and antipathy very strong but changeable.
· social connections and relationships that suddenly turn ugly, disruptive, or simply terminate almost overnight. Friendships suddenly go astray, unforeseen dynamics and issues suddenly and irrationally appear
Saturn conj neptune is a 'fear of the unknown' and can indicate depression. Ruler of 11th Jupiter retrograde will inevitably delays any of life's *hopes and wishes* plus have saturn here indicates delays, frustrations
astrologer50
Banned
[if we consider aspects to planets only] Njorwhald and his sun is unaspected here...Albeit conj MC, which will help it express itself. MC is not a planet though, it's just a point.
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JUPITERASC
Well-known member
Take your time to find out which house system you prefer Njorwhald, you can experiment and decide for yourself
Because you are a beginner Njorwhald it is most important that you listen to and consider all available points of view so here is a link to some discussion on the topic of house systems which is a hotly debated one! You'll find many points of view! house systems thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36069
wilsontc
Staff member
basic astrology, to Njorwhald
Njorwhald,
You said:
As you have gathered, astrology can be as complicated as you want it to be. Start questioning everything before you begin, and you can become very confused. Here's what I suggest and what many beginners to astrology do:
Create your chart in astro.com using the preset selection. You will end up with a Placidus chart using the Tropical Zodiac. Then interpret your chart from there. It is possible, using Placidus, you might not have a stellium in the 11th house, but in the 10th house instead. If you go through the entire interpretation and you don't agree with it, then you can start looking into other house systems and methods.
Personally, I have found Placidus works just fine for many charts. There are some issues with charts at the upper and lower latitudes, but as long as you aren't born above the arctic circle, you should be OK.
Now, if after learning the basics, you want to learn more and explore different house systems, then go for it! Just make sure you have taken the time first to interpret using the standard, Placidus/Tropical method before moving to something else.
Suggesting,
Tim
Njorwhald,
You said:
As you have gathered, astrology can be as complicated as you want it to be. Start questioning everything before you begin, and you can become very confused. Here's what I suggest and what many beginners to astrology do:
Create your chart in astro.com using the preset selection. You will end up with a Placidus chart using the Tropical Zodiac. Then interpret your chart from there. It is possible, using Placidus, you might not have a stellium in the 11th house, but in the 10th house instead. If you go through the entire interpretation and you don't agree with it, then you can start looking into other house systems and methods.
Personally, I have found Placidus works just fine for many charts. There are some issues with charts at the upper and lower latitudes, but as long as you aren't born above the arctic circle, you should be OK.
Now, if after learning the basics, you want to learn more and explore different house systems, then go for it! Just make sure you have taken the time first to interpret using the standard, Placidus/Tropical method before moving to something else.
Suggesting,
Tim