Mars refers to energy and drive and Capricorn is the sign for hard work, goal setting and getting ahead. But I dont use those terms exalted, dignifiied, whatever. Mars rules Aries and is in natural square to Capricorn and I am sure it confuses a lot of people. Like Saturn being exalted in Libra. But Libra does rule long term committed partnerships. Saturn rules Capricorn and there again is in square to Libra..Question as title really. What do you reckon?
Question as title really. What do you reckon?
I believe its only a balancing act if you really consider it... the ying/yang between planets and signs.
No other sign effortlessly soothes a planet like its exhalation sign does..
Mars is explosive, aggressive energy = Capricorn's natural coolness and self-control is like a healing balm to that energy..
Just like other exhalations;
The moon's emotions are erratic at times, unstable, changeable = Taurus is stable comfort and calms the moon's natural energy..
Jupiter is expansive, foreign and concerned with the big picture = Cancer is the natural compliment to that, as its private, personal and concerned with immediate surroundings (family, home, etc).
Very good points-simple, direct, and (I believe) quite valid!
Of the historical origins of the Exaltations of the planets we have Porphyry who explained that the diurnal planets being in a trine to the signs they rule were exalted places and, nocturnal planets in sextile to their own ruling signs were exalted.
Also, the Sun and superior planets are given the Cardinal signs with the above and the inferior planets given as neighborly a place in lesser positions along with the above.
So, for example, the Sun rules Leo. Both Aries and Sagittarius trine Leo. However, Aries is a cardinal sign so, it becomes the exaltation of the Sun. Or, the Moon ruling Cancer. Both Taurus and Virgo sextile Cancer but only Taurus sits next to the Sun (in its exaltation rather than Saturn in Libra) which gives her light.
Exactly!! It is that it the sign is not the natural placement or sympathetic to the qualities of the planet. Not good or bad. A well placed Scorpio Moon can be hugely transformative and a badly aspected Taurus Moon can be very materialistic, self indulgent, avaricious etc. Each chart on its own merits.It is debilitated in Cancer. The opposite of Cancer is Capricorn. Same with why is Jupiter exalted in Cancer (and debilitated in Capricorn?) Why is the moon good in Taurus but bad in Scorpio?
There again using those terms is confusing and really means little. It is an old fashioned terminology and is quite limiting.How are the others signs chosen, by their Sign? What I mean is do we use Pisces or Sagittarius for the Trine to indicate the exaltation? Which in this case I guess they chose Pisces, since Pisces Trines Cancer, where Jupiter is exalted in.
In that case, what about Mercury? I am guessing because Mercury is neutral, andrygonous, etc. Mercury didn't move sign, which they used Virgo for apparently.
I have a feeling many will say, no they used Gemini since Gemini Trines Aquarius, and Mercury is exalted in Aquarius. No, Mercury is exalted in Virgo.
In that case, what about Mercury? I am guessing because Mercury is neutral, andrygonous, etc. Mercury didn't move sign, which they used Virgo for apparently.
How are the others signs chosen, by their Sign? What I mean is do we use Pisces or Sagittarius for the Trine to indicate the exaltation? Which in this case I guess they chose Pisces, since Pisces Trines Cancer, where Jupiter is exalted in.
Diurnal and nocturnal is the key and it works except for Jupiter and Mars who are masculine but cast their exaltation from nocturnal ruling signs.
In that case, what about Mercury? I am guessing because Mercury is neutral, andrygonous, etc. Mercury didn't move sign, which they used Virgo for apparently.
Mercury, as always, is variable so, he doesn't move having rule and exaltation in Virgo.
I have a feeling many will say, no they used Gemini since Gemini Trines Aquarius, and Mercury is exalted in Aquarius. No, Mercury is exalted in Virgo.
Good illustration of possible limitations on our ability to completely comprehend "arcane aka obscure" concepts that were arguably household words aka common knowledge to the ancientsMight work as good a explanation as any.
I feel there are simply some things in the history of astrology that, even if explained to us direct from the mouth of some ancient, we still wouldn't get because of our "modern" world view and how much the times have changed in light of perspective and how we relate to the Cosmos, in general. We just have to look that, historically, these things have been a constant and try to wrap out heads around it from what little has been explained. To the ancients it was probably as clear as day.
Probably like us taking for granted a light switch. In our day and age we write, "..and I walked into the room and turned on the light..." Well, in 500 years, depending on how things go, someone might read that and say hey, "Well HOW did they turn on the light?" Did they just walk in and it went on or was there a mechanism or was someone there to do it for them???...lol
As for Mercury, did Ptolemy not have a special rule for it? Whether it rises ahead or behind the Sun determines whether it is dirunal or nocturnal? I
wonder did any of the other great teachers have other ideas? Can anyone vouch for Valens, the Persians or William Lily?
Of the historical origins of the Exaltations of the planets we have Porphyry who explained that the diurnal planets being in a trine to the signs they rule were exalted places and, nocturnal planets in sextile to their own ruling signs were exalted.
Also, the Sun and superior planets are given the Cardinal signs with the above and the inferior planets given as neighborly a place in lesser positions along with the above.
So, for example, the Sun rules Leo. Both Aries and Sagittarius trine Leo. However, Aries is a cardinal sign so, it becomes the exaltation of the Sun. Or, the Moon ruling Cancer. Both Taurus and Virgo sextile Cancer but only Taurus sits next to the Sun (in its exaltation rather than Saturn in Libra) which gives her light.