NeptunianLibran
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This is my first post on this forum and I know I saw a thread for 12th house Mars, I can't seem to find it! So I just started a new thread.
But I have Mars and Venus in Virgo in the 12th house and I COMPLETELY understand the suppressed anger that a lot of people have described with this position. I'm 25 and I already worry about high blood pressure, ulcers, and giving myself an aneurysm!
And being a double Libra doesn't help at all with the inability to express anger. I just can't do it! It's so weird! The only time I can clearly and effectively express anger is if it's at myself when I'm by myself!
And Mars in the 12th does get a bad reputation. I've read books that flat-out say, "you are in danger of suicide."
I laugh at it at first and I'm like, "Ha! That's ridiculous!"
Skip to a few hours later when I'm calculating the proper length of a noose for a woman my weight and height. (j/k, I got a morbid & self-depricating sense of humor. I got Mercury and the Moon in Scorpio, nice to meet you )
But as any astrologer (and Libran) can tell you, there are good and bad things to every placement.
Sometimes I hate my 12th house Mars. It eats at me. It wants me to jump off a bridge sometimes and withdraw from everything.
But then I look at my sister who has a 1st house Mars in 29 degrees Leo. What a handfull! She doesn't suppress her anger at all; she asserts herself constantly. She wouldn't know what guilt or self-hatred felt like if it exploded on her face! Which is nice for her but......she is the biggest b**ch I have ever met in my life! She's my sister and I love her, but she is completely uncompromising and THEE most difficult person to travel with. My own mother and numerous people have said that my sister is "just unpleasant to be around."
But as her sister and as a double Libra, I am equipped to compromise with her exhausting personality, but not everybody is as deprived. My sister has gotten in so many fights and petty arguments, it's ridiculous. She's been hospitalized for fighting, she starts showdowns at the worst possible moment, and the list goes on.
A lot of books I've read say that planets in the 12th house represent things that are lost or unattainable, but I disagree. I think planets occupying the 12th house are just asleep or in the dark, but it is possible for them wake up or to become illuminated.
In tense moments, I often tell myself, "Wake up, Mars! Wake up and help me do something!"
And also what I've noticed in myself with 12th house Mars is that I have to realize that I'm angry. It's almost like I've suppressed my anger about things for so long that I don't even know when I'm angry anymore. My anger is lost, but I can find it. It just takes some time and thinking about it.
But when that Martian beast finally gets a chance to be let out, he's hungry. I don't personally know anyone with a 12th house Mars, but if I did, I'd be careful around them. God forbid 2 people with 12th house Mars get into a fight! That must be where black holes come from.
But it's a catch 22 cause 12th house Mars doesn't like being expressed, but he doesn't like being suppressed. 12th house Mars doesn't express anger, but when you finally do, you end up feeling guilty about it and the cycle just continues. To me, Mars in 12th makes guilt and anger conjoined twins; you get one, you get the other. I feel guilty whenever I'm angry, and I feel angry when I feel guilty.
But there are good things about us Mars in 12th. We do have the ability to compromise or sacrifice a great deal of ourselves for the sake of others. That can easily be considered a bad thing, but I think it can be noble at times.
On the negative side, I'll find myself working my a** off for free, or not standing up for myself during obvious injustice.
But on the plus, I'll go totally out of my way to help someone and I don't care if it never gets acknowledged or praised. I don't do nice things for people because I want some good karma or because I want praise. I do it because I hate myself- just kidding! I do it because asserting myself isn't important to me.
And also as a 12th house Mars plus, I can get along with the most difficult personalities, like my ***** of a sister. Uh, I mean, b**ch of a sister.
Oh yeah, and another personal interpretation of 12th house Mars, I have a very self-depricating sense of humor. I'm white and I LOVE it when white people get made fun of. I'm American and I absolutely ADORE when people of other nationalities make fun of Americans. It's really weird. I don't just laugh at it, I thoroughly enjoy it. Maybe that's my Mercury & Moon in the self-stinging Scorpio, but I think it's also the 12th house Mars at work. I got self-deprication all over my chart.
But in the big picture, I think a 12th house Mars is fitting for me because I don't think other people deserve the fury that is locked inside me. They don't deserve that fury. Mars is best left locked away for me. I think I'm the only one who deserves my rage and I'm the only one who could handle my anger. And as someone with a 12th house Mars, I'm more than willing to sacrifice myself and take the hit of the 12th house Mars.
But I have Mars and Venus in Virgo in the 12th house and I COMPLETELY understand the suppressed anger that a lot of people have described with this position. I'm 25 and I already worry about high blood pressure, ulcers, and giving myself an aneurysm!
And being a double Libra doesn't help at all with the inability to express anger. I just can't do it! It's so weird! The only time I can clearly and effectively express anger is if it's at myself when I'm by myself!
And Mars in the 12th does get a bad reputation. I've read books that flat-out say, "you are in danger of suicide."
I laugh at it at first and I'm like, "Ha! That's ridiculous!"
Skip to a few hours later when I'm calculating the proper length of a noose for a woman my weight and height. (j/k, I got a morbid & self-depricating sense of humor. I got Mercury and the Moon in Scorpio, nice to meet you )
But as any astrologer (and Libran) can tell you, there are good and bad things to every placement.
Sometimes I hate my 12th house Mars. It eats at me. It wants me to jump off a bridge sometimes and withdraw from everything.
But then I look at my sister who has a 1st house Mars in 29 degrees Leo. What a handfull! She doesn't suppress her anger at all; she asserts herself constantly. She wouldn't know what guilt or self-hatred felt like if it exploded on her face! Which is nice for her but......she is the biggest b**ch I have ever met in my life! She's my sister and I love her, but she is completely uncompromising and THEE most difficult person to travel with. My own mother and numerous people have said that my sister is "just unpleasant to be around."
But as her sister and as a double Libra, I am equipped to compromise with her exhausting personality, but not everybody is as deprived. My sister has gotten in so many fights and petty arguments, it's ridiculous. She's been hospitalized for fighting, she starts showdowns at the worst possible moment, and the list goes on.
A lot of books I've read say that planets in the 12th house represent things that are lost or unattainable, but I disagree. I think planets occupying the 12th house are just asleep or in the dark, but it is possible for them wake up or to become illuminated.
In tense moments, I often tell myself, "Wake up, Mars! Wake up and help me do something!"
And also what I've noticed in myself with 12th house Mars is that I have to realize that I'm angry. It's almost like I've suppressed my anger about things for so long that I don't even know when I'm angry anymore. My anger is lost, but I can find it. It just takes some time and thinking about it.
But when that Martian beast finally gets a chance to be let out, he's hungry. I don't personally know anyone with a 12th house Mars, but if I did, I'd be careful around them. God forbid 2 people with 12th house Mars get into a fight! That must be where black holes come from.
But it's a catch 22 cause 12th house Mars doesn't like being expressed, but he doesn't like being suppressed. 12th house Mars doesn't express anger, but when you finally do, you end up feeling guilty about it and the cycle just continues. To me, Mars in 12th makes guilt and anger conjoined twins; you get one, you get the other. I feel guilty whenever I'm angry, and I feel angry when I feel guilty.
But there are good things about us Mars in 12th. We do have the ability to compromise or sacrifice a great deal of ourselves for the sake of others. That can easily be considered a bad thing, but I think it can be noble at times.
On the negative side, I'll find myself working my a** off for free, or not standing up for myself during obvious injustice.
But on the plus, I'll go totally out of my way to help someone and I don't care if it never gets acknowledged or praised. I don't do nice things for people because I want some good karma or because I want praise. I do it because I hate myself- just kidding! I do it because asserting myself isn't important to me.
And also as a 12th house Mars plus, I can get along with the most difficult personalities, like my ***** of a sister. Uh, I mean, b**ch of a sister.
Oh yeah, and another personal interpretation of 12th house Mars, I have a very self-depricating sense of humor. I'm white and I LOVE it when white people get made fun of. I'm American and I absolutely ADORE when people of other nationalities make fun of Americans. It's really weird. I don't just laugh at it, I thoroughly enjoy it. Maybe that's my Mercury & Moon in the self-stinging Scorpio, but I think it's also the 12th house Mars at work. I got self-deprication all over my chart.
But in the big picture, I think a 12th house Mars is fitting for me because I don't think other people deserve the fury that is locked inside me. They don't deserve that fury. Mars is best left locked away for me. I think I'm the only one who deserves my rage and I'm the only one who could handle my anger. And as someone with a 12th house Mars, I'm more than willing to sacrifice myself and take the hit of the 12th house Mars.