Progressed Mars and Moon Changing Signs nearly in tandem

freedomlover

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I was looking at a friends' progressed chart, and noticed something:
His Progressed Moon is at 29'33"Capricorn in the 3rd. His Progressed Mars is at 29'53" Scorpio on the cusp of his 2nd. His Progressed Ascendant is in Scorpio, so Mars rules his Ascendant.

His Progressed Moon will be entering Aquarius right at October 14th. Progressed Mars entering Sag only a few weeks after that. I had a long talk with him the other day, and I think he is starting to feel the effects of these already.

Also, his Progressed Mars in Sag will be changing signs in his natal 3rd house, having Progressed out of his natal 2nd for a few years now. His Progressed Moon in Aquarius will be newly entering his natal 5th house, when it makes the sign change - so a change of both sign (Cap to Aqua) and house (4th to 5th).

In general, what kind of changes can be expected? I'm thinking along a certain line... but wondering what the rest of you say. It seems like some kind of dramatic change to me, going from Scorp/Cap to Sag/Aqua.

Comments?
 
can we see the chart pls? I have similar situation going myself. Prog moon changes from pisces into aries next week, progressed sun is 29' gemini soon to change and conj 6th cusp/cancer, and progressed mars in cancer 29' going to change to Leo/conj 7th house cusp. I've had 2.5years with dreamy sensitive pisces and quite frankly have had enough. My natal moon is Aries and I miss the pushy assertive, dynamic go getting energy and am expecting this to come back and really looking for to it...

As for progressed sun changing into cancer, I am expecting to become a step mum and see that I will have less time for my recreational actitivies like this forum. The progressed mars changing from cancer to Leo/conj 7th am expecting transition from daily routines which will need to be very organised and more mars activity with my partner. Considering there are lots of cultural and background differences, I shall be singing the Frank Sinatra song 'My Way' or not at all......

Can we also see you spin on what you expect to happen?
 

freedomlover

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can we see the chart pls? I have similar situation going myself. Prog moon changes from pisces into aries next week, progressed sun is 29' gemini soon to change and conj 6th cusp/cancer, and progressed mars in cancer 29' going to change to Leo/conj 7th house cusp. I've had 2.5years with dreamy sensitive pisces and quite frankly have had enough. My natal moon is Aries and I miss the pushy assertive, dynamic go getting energy and am expecting this to come back and really looking for to it...

As for progressed sun changing into cancer, I am expecting to become a step mum and see that I will have less time for my recreational actitivies like this forum. The progressed mars changing from cancer to Leo/conj 7th am expecting transition from daily routines which will need to be very organised and more mars activity with my partner. Considering there are lots of cultural and background differences, I shall be singing the Frank Sinatra song 'My Way' or not at all......

Can we also see you spin on what you expect to happen?

What a very exciting time you're going through! Best wishes! With Progressed Sun going from Gemini to Cancer on cusp of 6th - you may find yourself getting more in touch with your body's feelings, and attention to health, as well - maybe a renewed or revamped interest in diet and cooking healthy.

With Progressed Mars going from Cancer to Leo - you may find yourself demanding alot of attention from your partner - or conversely - one who demands alot of attention from you. OR both! The Progressions into Cancer and Leo point to the stepmum thing, too - you may find yourself getting more in touch with your own inner child.

As to my spin on the chart I posted.....
Well, he has been very finance-oriented as long as I've known him - which is NOT his natural bent. Progressed Mars changing into Sag in natal 3rd, I see as becoming more interested in philosophical/metaphysical realm, which he has only dabbled in in the past. Also, more chances for short trips and adventure, which he loves. He's felt very chained to his home the past few years.

Progressed Moon changing into Aquarius and into his natal 5th... I would see as a chance to get back to his true self, be more original and creative, more time for recreational activities.

Also, the combo being in Sag and Aquarius would tend to bring out freedom and even rebellious tendencies. (Gee, how would I know this, being a natal Sag Sun and Aquarius Moon). I would think mine and his friendship may get closer as a result of this, too - as he would resonate more with my signs.

1st chart is Natal w/Progressions 2nd chart is Progressions alone
 

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What a very exciting time you're going through! Best wishes! With Progressed Sun going from Gemini to Cancer on cusp of 6th - you may find yourself getting more in touch with your body's feelings, and attention to health, as well - maybe a renewed or revamped interest in diet and cooking healthy.

With Progressed Mars going from Cancer to Leo - you may find yourself demanding alot of attention from your partner - or conversely - one who demands alot of attention from you. OR both! The Progressions into Cancer and Leo point to the stepmum thing, too - you may find yourself getting more in touch with your own inner child.

As to my spin on the chart I posted.....
Well, he has been very finance-oriented as long as I've known him - which is NOT his natural bent. Progressed Mars changing into Sag in natal 3rd, I see as becoming more interested in philosophical/metaphysical realm, which he has only dabbled in in the past. Also, more chances for short trips and adventure, which he loves. He's felt very chained to his home the past few years.

Progressed Moon changing into Aquarius and into his natal 5th... I would see as a chance to get back to his true self, be more original and creative, more time for recreational activities. So his natal moon in Gemini at least it will come back to same element, should become more talkative, sociable, less needing approval and recongition (cappi) and more interested in individuality,freedom

Also, the combo being in Sag and Aquarius would tend to bring out freedom and even rebellious tendencies. (Gee, how would I know this, being a natal Sag Sun and Aquarius Moon). I would think mine and his friendship may get closer as a result of this, too - as he would resonate more with my signs.

1st chart is Natal w/Progressions 2nd chart is Progressions alone

The overall chart screams, I'm a private person, needs my own space (with that stellium in12th). So moon progressed through 4th, did he move house? or was he more emotionally invested with people in it? in approx 10months it will conj his IC-- does he have plans to move?

Progressed and solar arc planets like transits act as background influence until/unless the make an aspect to other natal planets, points or angles--- so when it conj his natal saturn it will also trigger his Yod/quincunxs to.

His progressed Asc 4'scorpio, noticeable his progressed his into scorpio will prob make him more secretive, intense wanting more control as its now 3-4'conj prog Asc, but then his prog neptune is a lot closer to. Do he do the typical drift off when talking to him kinda thing? has he become more gullible? easily led?

Being a modern astrologer Pluto rules Scorpio to me anyway (as opposed to Traditional astrologer) and his natal pluto is 12th, everything seems to come back and centre around his 12th --- his inner life. Before his sun progressed into scorpio it conj natal mars and this should have energised his libran traits and may have become more wilful, headstrong and driven.

Transiting Saturn is conj his Asc right now, prob causing slow downs, not great time to begin any new projects -- good time to lose weight though. Sometimes life just moves so fast, sometimes we need time to stop and smell the roses and Saturn being the Lord of Karma is asking that right now.

Well, he has been very finance-oriented as long as I've known him - which is NOT his natural bent. Progressed Mars changing into Sag in natal 3rd, I see as becoming more interested in philosophical/metaphysical realm, which he has only dabbled in in the past. Also, more chances for short trips and adventure, which he loves. He's felt very chained to his home the past few years.
--progressed moon will do this...

Keywords for Saggi, Aquarius and Aries -- freedom independence, catch if you can (saggi) How about being more philosophical, training courses, higher education, dealing with foreigners, questioning religious beliefs, journalism --- all depending on his career and social standing of course. Virgo Asc can be quite shy but worries and over analyses things, gemini MC (like pisces and libra) restless, procrastinating and indecisive. gemini's don't usually like making decisions if they can get away with it either. They tend to know a little bit about a lot but not a lot about anything in particular
 

freedomlover

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Astrologer50,

Thanks so much for the wonderful insight!


quoting Astrologer50:
The overall chart screams, I'm a private person, needs my own space (with that stellium in12th). So moon progressed through 4th, did he move house? or was he more emotionally invested with people in it? in approx 10months it will conj his IC-- does he have plans to move?
That's the funny part about him- he's very outgoing - very humble and I guess kind of shy in a Virgo-sort of way. I would have never thought he had a 12th house sun with his personality. Maybe he developed his outgoing personality with progressions. He does spend quite a bit of time alone in the woods, etc - just not alone in his home. Also, he does all free-lance work, so I guess maybe he just factors in alone time in and amongst his jobs. He spends an awful lot of time communicating and with friends, though.

No, he's lived in the same house for years. Although, with his progressed Moon in Cap going through the 4th, I think they've had some financial problems. They had a small business which I don't think has been doing as well as it did.

I don't think he has any current plans to move - but with that conjunction to IC and the Mars into Sag..... I'm beginning to wonder.
Progressed and solar arc planets like transits act as background influence until/unless the make an aspect to other natal planets, points or angles--- so when it conj his natal saturn it will also trigger his Yod/quincunxs to.
That's interesting to note, too. That will be in probably a little over a year, no? Also,as we speak, transiting Jupiter is stationing direct smack on his natal Saturn Rx in Aquarius/5th. I was wondering if this would trigger his yod- or if only aspects to the apex or trigger point would do it.


His progressed Asc 4'scorpio, noticeable his progressed his into scorpio will prob make him more secretive, intense wanting more control as its now 3-4'conj prog Asc, but then his prog neptune is a lot closer to. Do he do the typical drift off when talking to him kinda thing? has he become more gullible? easily led?
No, he isn't the "drift off when talking to him" kind. Actually, he seems to be one of the most attentive listeners I've met. I think the progressed Scorpio thing has him more involved in some investigative specialty work and interest in death/occult, among some other things.

BUT he does seem to have the gullible thing you mentioned. He does strike me as very easily led - esp. by his wife.

Being a modern astrologer Pluto rules Scorpio to me anyway (as opposed to Traditional astrologer) and his natal pluto is 12th, everything seems to come back and centre around his 12th --- his inner life. Before his sun progressed into scorpio it conj natal mars and this should have energised his libran traits and may have become more wilful, headstrong and driven.
That may account for his current outgoing, balanced personality I've encountered. He maybe became more sure of himself, and started standing up for himself more. He's also very concerned with justice, I've noticed. I didn't know him prior to that conjunction, and don't know what his life was like before. I'll see if I can work it into conversation.
Transiting Saturn is conj his Asc right now, prob causing slow downs, not great time to begin any new projects -- good time to lose weight though. Sometimes life just moves so fast, sometimes we need time to stop and smell the roses and Saturn being the Lord of Karma is asking that right now.
Yeah, last time I talked with him, he said his energy has not been good - which is very odd for him, as he is always like the Energizer bunny. He's also been trying to quit smoking.

Keywords for Saggi, Aquarius and Aries -- freedom independence, catch if you can (saggi) How about being more philosophical, training courses, higher education, dealing with foreigners, questioning religious beliefs, journalism --- all depending on his career and social standing of course. Virgo Asc can be quite shy but worries and over analyses things, gemini MC (like pisces and libra) restless, procrastinating and indecisive. gemini's don't usually like making decisions if they can get away with it either. They tend to know a little bit about a lot but not a lot about anything in particular
Yeah, that combo is going to be interesting, as to how what changes it produces in him. Don't forget he has Jupiter Rx in Aries in the 7th, as part of his yod, as well. So he's going to have Sag and Aquarius influences to boot. He travels quite a bit, at times, but said he's been on a dry spell the past few years, in comparison to previous years. With the Sag/Aqua influences and his Jupiter Rx in Aries in the 7th - he may be spending more time travelling, and less with his partner - maybe? What do you think?

Also, as I said, he does do freelance work - and several kinds, so I guess that is the Gemini MC at work, eh?

Thanks again! You were mah-velous!

FL
 
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That's the funny part about him- he's very outgoing - very humble and I guess kind of shy in a Virgo-sort of way. I would have never thought he had a 12th house sun with is personality. Maybe he developed his outgoing personality with progressions.
How sure are you of the 'time of birth?' using solar arcs age 25 SA moon conj MC house move, change of job? Age 7 SA Asc conj mercury-- poss another sibling born, more confident communications etc Age 9 SA Venus conj Asc - poss female sibling, beautiful home, pleasure, socialising (family) Age 12 SA Sun conj Asc -- did he start to shine, become more ego focused, assertive? SA pluto conj Asc age 16 major transformation, did anyone die, leave home, relocate?

That's interesting to note, too. That will be in probably a little over a year, no? Also,as we speak, transiting Jupiter is stationing direct smack on his natal Saturn Rx in Aquarius/5th. I was wondering if this would trigger his yod- or if only aspects to the apex or trigger point would do it.

around mid November this year
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/nov2009gmt.shtml

Also, as I said, he does do freelance work - and several kinds, so I guess that is the Gemini MC at work, eh?
Yeh, gemini tend to know a little bit about a lot but not a lot about anything in depth and are restless and procrastinating and don't usually like making decisions.

With the Sag/Aqua influences and his Jupiter Rx in Aries in the 7th - he may be spending more time travelling, and less with his partner - maybe? What do you think?
Well Saggi rules 3rd house - so it's more communications and short distance travelling. His Jupiter quincunxs to sun/venus may be felt only subtly cos of jupiter rtx..

Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Jupiter

Laziness or overextension is a big problem for you at certain points in your life. Any personality difficulties you have (including issues of value) are cleared up through ever deepening self appraisal and honest reflection on how past expectations match your history.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Jupiter

You easily overextend yourself. Overindulgence and exhaustion can come from feeling over-optimistic about yourself and what the world will do for you. You take on obligations that are other people's responsibilities because you feel so good about yourself. You are happy and healthy when you learn how to set real limits without being talked or coerced into overdoing it, in some area of your life.


Jupiter retrograde natally suggests they are more inspired to search within for opportunities for growth. There is often experienced inwardly a fuller sense of protection, well‑being, and inner peace. It's expression is more psychologically realised. So he is likely to be more internally contented and self‑satisfied, than he may outwardly appear to be!

This placing suggests this person may well hold back from spontaneous expression, yet he is likely to be more freely giving on his insight and inspiration! Jupiter retrograde individuals can feel less of an urge for active social participation, ­favouring a quieter life style!

There has been some good threads recently on 12th house placements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16117&highlight=12th+house
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18312&highlight=12th+house
 

freedomlover

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Thank you once again for the info, Astrologer50

I'll have to ask him about the solar arcs in his life before I knew him - maybe when we get a chance to spend some time together.
Sun Quincunx (Inconjunct) Jupiter

Laziness or overextension is a big problem for you at certain points in your life. Any personality difficulties you have (including issues of value) are cleared up through ever deepening self appraisal and honest reflection on how past expectations match your history.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Jupiter

You easily overextend yourself. Overindulgence and exhaustion can come from feeling over-optimistic about yourself and what the world will do for you. You take on obligations that are other people's responsibilities because you feel so good about yourself. You are happy and healthy when you learn how to set real limits without being talked or coerced into overdoing it, in some area of your life.

The inconjuncts describe him well, esp. the Venus incj. Jupiter. He definitely overextends himself. He's mentioned several times about doing something, "because they really wanted me to do it". I think he spreads himself too thin.
That's interesting to note, too. That will be in probably a little over a year, no? Also,as we speak, transiting Jupiter is stationing direct smack on his natal Saturn Rx in Aquarius/5th. I was wondering if this would trigger his yod- or if only aspects to the apex or trigger point would do it.

around mid November this year
I'm of the understanding that Jupiter is stationing direct at 17' Aquarius on October 13th.:sideways:
I checked the khaldea ephemeris, and it is showing the same date. Are you referring to something else?

Of course, it may take awhile to "pull out of station", which would probably take it into late Oct/early Nov.

FL
 
can't really see the chart with prog properly cos it's so small, think maybe i guessed Saturn was around 20' which would be end Nov 09
 

freedomlover

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can't really see the chart with prog properly cos it's so small, think maybe i guessed Saturn was around 20' which would be end Nov 09

No, his natal Saturn is at 17' Aquarius, the same as the Jupiter station.

Oh, and you can click on the chart to make it bigger. Sometimes it takes more than one click!
 
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