Asc Cancer, Saturn Libra, Moon etc Questions?

Hi All...

Hope all of you can help me add onto this puzzle of trying to understand what my certain aspects mean. I have been studying it, researching, reading, had reading in the past before I was really sponge worthy of it. Now Im eating it all up, reasearching etc. So I hope you can add anything good, spiritual meanings as well - as Im into esoteric astrology ( Alan Olkens book I always run back 2) . Trying to blend the 2 personal, soul. . Seeing the light behing the 'matter' Or if anyone has any places I should research, though Im sure I have been there. smile.

1. Okay Saturn in Libra, Saturn returns, trying to teach me the lessons. Great teacher. I have Saturn Libra 4th (inner foundations) house as well as Jupiter Libra conj.. I have read all different fragmented pieces of what it means, studied the 4th house etc... but maybe someone could add some fusion.

2. I have only 1 aspect with Saturn Libra, thats squaring Mars in Sag 6th, Mars squares both Saturn Jup Libra... Anyone have anything 2 add on its soul - personality influence, as Alans book really only goes very lightly into aspects. But mentioned it had 2 do with if your desires are coming from a lower place, everything you do will be delayed... or the outcome will not be want intended. Which actually Im grateful for.

3. Saturn Libra- Libra covers a portion of my 4th, and my 5th house. I have Pluto, Venus Libra 5th, Which are now both conjunct with the Saturn Transit? What is the really teaching me now that Saturn has left the 4th?

4. A few years ago... I went to someone who looked at my chart and mentioned my Mother, and how of course she helped me, I had a only one sign Planet ( besides chiron) in the upper houses. I have Aries Moon, in the 11th house. She told me the Moon will either act as a rutter helping you with all the planets in the 5th, or it will take you down? I never fully understood this, because:

A. When researching the moon in esoteric astrology, it is the glamour and illusions of the personality, biokarma-mother issues, and the really challenging way I was taught to mother and nurture myself for security, and where I look to hope to find it, but never ever do.... Plus challenging aspects:
Venus Pluto in Libra (which the saturn transit the teacher is conjunct right now)

Mercury Scorpio opposition Moon,

Asc in Cancer SQUARE the Moon in my natal ( Saturns transit right now is Square my ASC) Since the Moon rules Cancer, and my natal Saturn is in the Cancer house of the 4th...ruled by the Moon, its kinda confusing, but I know it's trying to restructure it.

So when she told me, The Moon will either take you UP, or bring you DOWN. I only see the negatives of it, the past restrictions, bad nurturing style etc -- what could the positives be? By me being blatantly aware of my emotional issues (cancer asc) it causes me to try to restructure?

....I know that yesterday or the day before, Saturn transit was opposite the Moon, and I had huuugggeee emotional eruptions of sadness, fear doubt. But I know Saturn is the teacher of whatever area he falls in the chart, I know what he really is telling me that the structures I have built in this area in my life arent strong enough for me, arent sound, so Saturn comes in and knocks them down ( thank you, honestly) and convinces me to rebuild them because he wants me to be successful in the long haul... Which Im trying, but I have all these fragmented pieces and Im trying to build something whole with my relationship (Libra) with myself.... Others are merely a reflection projection of that. I think by me not knowing, I create alot of uneeded suffering for myself. It's a war within myself sometime, and Im not blaming anyone anymore. Im trying to look within. I don't know if it's the whole Asc Cancer- Capricorn (Saturns) Desc thing. It's like expression/inhibition, self nuture/self denial, always going back and forth within me. If I cry or yell, it's like I should deny or control it, Or I try to deny and inhibit, but feel terrible... So either the moon takes you up, or down, I feel it takes me down, because Im not seeing the full picture. I know it's all rooted in the 4th.

5. Last question, that I have never really found an aswer for. I have Mercury Scorpio 5th house... All my other planets in that house are at a high degree. Mercury is I believe around 8 degrees. I looked up the Sabian, still confused. This astrologer that I saw, mentioned, Poor Mercury, it doesn't know whats goin on, All the other planets are like these Big Skyscrapers, and Mercury is in the between like a small tiny house? Can anyone add anything about this. About differing degrees? Also I have Gemini on the cusp of the 12th of Hidden Places etc, any connections?

I hope someone can add anything, helping me with this intricate puzzle pieces of energy trying to form a coherent picture.

Thanks all
David
 

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Well done for posting your chart and welcome to AW. I wonder with a hugely lobsided chart, have you tried Equal house system? Jupiter/saturn would b 3rd, pluto,mercury,venus would be 4th and sun/uranus 5th
When a Sun is conjunct (or hard aspect ie: square or opposite) any of the outer weight planets it automatically becomes an honorary Saturian, Uranian, Neptunian and Plutonian, cos their influence seems to overshadow the 'light' and sun's energies...
So, you are not a typcial scorpio, with sun conj uranus. This may add impatience, wanting to do unusual things that feed the pride and ego somehow. Later in life you may become a little eccentric even.

Hi All...

Hope all of you can help me add onto this puzzle of trying to understand what my certain aspects mean. I have been studying it, researching, reading, had reading in the past before I was really sponge worthy of it. Now Im eating it all up, reasearching etc. So I hope you can add anything good, spiritual meanings as well - as Im into esoteric astrology ( Alan Olkens book I always run back 2) . Trying to blend the 2 personal, soul. . Seeing the light behing the 'matter' Or if anyone has any places I should research, though Im sure I have been there. smile.

1. Okay Saturn in Libra, Saturn returns, trying to teach me the lessons. Great teacher. I have Saturn Libra 4th (inner foundations) house as well as Jupiter Libra conj.. I have read all different fragmented pieces of what it means, studied the 4th house etc... but maybe someone could add some fusion.
[So T Saturn returns in 3rd house (Equal)of communications, it's already been over jupiter and saturn and is currently conj Pluto, affecting venus,pluto and moon. ]
:saturn::conjunct::pluto:
This combination represents the combining of the real with illusion. Consequently, it is a time when you are likely to be confused or disillusioned about many aspects of your life. You may have alot of self doubt and lack self confidence. Because you are not sure what is real in your life, especially in your relationships and in what is expected of you, you may have a tendency to be gloomy in your perspective and suffer from anxiety.
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/saturn-cj-neptune.html

2. I have only 1 aspect with Saturn Libra, thats squaring Mars in Sag 6th, Mars squares both Saturn Jup Libra... Anyone have anything 2 add on its soul - personality influence, as Alans book really only goes very lightly into aspects. But mentioned it had 2 do with if your desires are coming from a lower place, everything you do will be delayed... or the outcome will not be want intended. Which actually Im grateful for.[T saturn sets off n saturn aspects which are also conj Jupiter and square mars. Saturn square mars is something you already live with/through and can create a see-saw effect, jupiter wants to expand and saturn says, "hand on a minute, you have work next day and can't go out partying." Saturn can be a killjoy and dampen jupiters enthusiasms...]

3. Saturn Libra- Libra covers a portion of my 4th, and my 5th house. I have Pluto, Venus Libra 5th, Which are now both conjunct with the Saturn Transit? What is the really teaching me now that Saturn has left the 4th?[well again, it depends which house system you use. I use Equal, but others here use Whole sign, other's simply the default on astro.com as they don't even know there are other 'house system's. Saturn opp moon is 'testing what finances' you need to live on, your domestic/home situations. Sometimes a friendship or relationship could break, it can cause depressions and wanting to withdraw from socialising. When T Saturn gets to venus, it again is similar but is 'testing which relationships' are of value, working and wants you to put more effort, hard work into them, but if something's not working it usually ends.]

4. A few years ago... I went to someone who looked at my chart and mentioned my Mother, and how of course she helped me, I had a only one sign Planet ( besides chiron) in the upper houses. I have Aries Moon, in the 11th house. She told me the Moon will either act as a rutter helping you with all the planets in the 5th, or it will take you down? I never fully understood this, because:

[this moon is handle for bucket chart. Wherever Moon is, is where we seek nurturance and give out the same, but adds restlessness in the house matter to.Your moon is THE most challenged but it does have two nice trines to mars/neptune]

Bucket chart
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Bucket-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/bucket.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/funnel.html
http://www.astrococktail.com/planetaryorderIII.html
A. When researching the moon in esoteric astrology, it is the glamour and illusions of the personality, biokarma-mother issues, and the really challenging way I was taught to mother and nurture myself for security, and where I look to hope to find it, but never ever do.... Plus challenging aspects:
Venus Pluto in Libra (which the saturn transit the teacher is conjunct right now)

Mercury Scorpio opposition Moon, [this aspect is just over 10' very very wide orb and quincunx by signs ie;150' and have nothing in common, it could suggest sleep problems though? Mercury/scorpio is a very very private sign, problem is Aries isn't and will blurt out anything, is upfront in your face. So with time,age, life experiences you have had to learn balance here...]

Asc in Cancer SQUARE the Moon in my natal ( Saturns transit right now is Square my ASC) Since the Moon rules Cancer, and my natal Saturn is in the Cancer house of the 4th...ruled by the Moon, its kinda confusing, but I know it's trying to restructure it. [T Saturn opp moon will be a while yet, so is approaching in strength. T Saturn may knock your confidence a bit more, and this aspect will affect your home and domestic circumstances.]

So when she told me, The Moon will either take you UP, or bring you DOWN. I only see the negatives of it, the past restrictions, bad nurturing style etc -- what could the positives be? By me being blatantly aware of my emotional issues (cancer asc) it causes me to try to restructure? [research your easy aspects, trine to mars/neptune, they are the outlets for emotions]

....I know that yesterday or the day before, Saturn transit was opposite the Moon, and I had huuugggeee emotional eruptions of sadness, fear doubt. But I know Saturn is the teacher of whatever area he falls in the chart, I know what he really is telling me that the structures I have built in this area in my life arent strong enough for me, arent sound, so Saturn comes in and knocks them down ( thank you, honestly) and convinces me to rebuild them because he wants me to be successful in the long haul... Which Im trying, but I have all these fragmented pieces and Im trying to build something whole with my relationship (Libra) with myself.... Others are merely a reflection projection of that. I think by me not knowing, I create alot of uneeded suffering for myself. It's a war within myself sometime, and Im not blaming anyone anymore. Im trying to look within. I don't know if it's the whole Asc Cancer- Capricorn (Saturns) Desc thing. It's like expression/inhibition, self nuture/self denial, always going back and forth within me. If I cry or yell, it's like I should deny or control it, Or I try to deny and inhibit, but feel terrible... So either the moon takes you up, or down, I feel it takes me down, because Im not seeing the full picture. I know it's all rooted in the 4th. [this is typical Aries moon behaviour, soon to flare up, soon to flare down and forgive and forget, thing is mercury and venus in scorpio hold grudges and do not forgive easily]

5. Last question, that I have never really found an aswer for. I have Mercury Scorpio 5th house... All my other planets in that house are at a high degree. Mercury is I believe around 8 degrees. I looked up the Sabian, still confused. This astrologer that I saw, mentioned, Poor Mercury, it doesn't know whats goin on, All the other planets are like these Big Skyscrapers, and Mercury is in the between like a small tiny house? Can anyone add anything about this. About differing degrees? Also I have Gemini on the cusp of the 12th of Hidden Places etc, any connections? [mercury is not in detriment or fall in scorpio and the oppositionn aspects don't hold as much tension as the squares, and are generally easier to handle.]

I hope someone can add anything, helping me with this intricate puzzle pieces of energy trying to form a coherent picture.

Thanks all
David
Gemini ruling 12th house and posited in 4th (Equal house)Mercury also rules IC/home roots

Ruler of the Twelfth House in the Fourth House
You can more easily get in touch with your subconscious mind while in the privacy of your own home. You have a past life connection with your mother or your family in general. You may experience a time of confusion and doubt about your family or upbringing. If this is the case, you must work on forgiveness in order to elevate yourself. Making other's opinions of you more important than your own can work against you. You can't please all of the people all of the time. Accept yourself fully for what you are.

http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr12
hope this helps?
 
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