miquar
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Lately I've been trying to deepen my sense of what Pluto is all about. To help me I went through some writings of some of my favoured astrological authors to try to replicate in their chosen terminology what Arroyo does in The Chart Interpretation Handbook, i.e. give a brief summary of both positive and negative expressions. His summary is directly quoted here. The Greene stuff is ;paraphrased from a side variety of sources that I've read over the years, so I hope I do it some justice. For Pauline Stone I used Relationships, Astrology and Karma. For Tracy Marks I used The Astrology Of Self-Discovery, and the last section uses my own words in attempt to capture the other author's thoughts along side my own.
ARROYO
positive: Acceptance of the need to focus one’s mind and will power on one’s own transformation; having the courage to face one’s deepest desires and compulsions and to transmute them through effort and intensity of experience.
negative: Compulsive expression of subconscious cravings; wilful manipulation of others to serve one’s own ends; ruthlessly using any means to avoid the pain of facing one’s self; infatuation with power.
STONE
positive: Attaining the highest levels of emotional and spiritual well-being; a joyful approach to life in the expectation that all our needs will be met; the willingness to use all our resources to bring healing and abundance to the planet as a whole.
negative: Succumbing to the depths of depression, frustration and bitterness; compulsive desire for power born of insecurity and fear of loss; cruelty and ruthlessness in the furthering of our own ends.
GREENE
positive: Indestructible conviction of life’s intelligent purposefulness; honouring the transformative power of the instincts; letting go of that which we have outgrown; ability and willingness to penetrate to the roots of things; taking charge of one’s own survival.
negative: Paranoia due to an overdeveloped sense of life-threatening factors in the environment; raging against disempowerment (past or present); depression; resentment; over-identification with dark and destructive passions bubbling up from the collective unconscious.
MARKS
positive: Core darkness can be experienced, but does not deform or overwhelm; energy available for rebirth and deep commitment to relationships and causes; ability to delve into own psyche enables assistance of others with their emotional conflicts; aware of affect on other people – refrains from manipulation; quiet pleasure can be enjoyed between intense times.
negative: At war with oneself; remote and secretive; desires and passions are denied (leaving minimal energy on which to function), or else obsessive, manipulative, vengeful, exploitative behaviour erupts; Attempts to control the outside world to alleviate the sense of being at the mercy of one’s own psyche.
ME
positive: Acceptance of the transience of all manifest things; willing to surf the life force from one form to another; survival instincts expressed in proportion to threat; willingness to yield to necessity; able to accept primitive emotions as a valid part of life; capacity for healthy symbiosis.
negative: Uncontrolled change associated with annihilation or fruitless pain; obsessive attachments and aversions arise from heightened sense of threat; extreme sense of jungle law; lack of trust in life’s bounty; resentful or depressed due to unresolved power issues from the past.
My reason for starting this thread is that I'm struggling with the phrase 'the transforming power of the instincts.' I can see Pluto as transformative, and as the collective survival instincts, and I can see that one has to transform to survive. But there's something not clicking into place for me that I hope to get closer to through this discussion.
Many thanks for your contributions
ARROYO
positive: Acceptance of the need to focus one’s mind and will power on one’s own transformation; having the courage to face one’s deepest desires and compulsions and to transmute them through effort and intensity of experience.
negative: Compulsive expression of subconscious cravings; wilful manipulation of others to serve one’s own ends; ruthlessly using any means to avoid the pain of facing one’s self; infatuation with power.
STONE
positive: Attaining the highest levels of emotional and spiritual well-being; a joyful approach to life in the expectation that all our needs will be met; the willingness to use all our resources to bring healing and abundance to the planet as a whole.
negative: Succumbing to the depths of depression, frustration and bitterness; compulsive desire for power born of insecurity and fear of loss; cruelty and ruthlessness in the furthering of our own ends.
GREENE
positive: Indestructible conviction of life’s intelligent purposefulness; honouring the transformative power of the instincts; letting go of that which we have outgrown; ability and willingness to penetrate to the roots of things; taking charge of one’s own survival.
negative: Paranoia due to an overdeveloped sense of life-threatening factors in the environment; raging against disempowerment (past or present); depression; resentment; over-identification with dark and destructive passions bubbling up from the collective unconscious.
MARKS
positive: Core darkness can be experienced, but does not deform or overwhelm; energy available for rebirth and deep commitment to relationships and causes; ability to delve into own psyche enables assistance of others with their emotional conflicts; aware of affect on other people – refrains from manipulation; quiet pleasure can be enjoyed between intense times.
negative: At war with oneself; remote and secretive; desires and passions are denied (leaving minimal energy on which to function), or else obsessive, manipulative, vengeful, exploitative behaviour erupts; Attempts to control the outside world to alleviate the sense of being at the mercy of one’s own psyche.
ME
positive: Acceptance of the transience of all manifest things; willing to surf the life force from one form to another; survival instincts expressed in proportion to threat; willingness to yield to necessity; able to accept primitive emotions as a valid part of life; capacity for healthy symbiosis.
negative: Uncontrolled change associated with annihilation or fruitless pain; obsessive attachments and aversions arise from heightened sense of threat; extreme sense of jungle law; lack of trust in life’s bounty; resentful or depressed due to unresolved power issues from the past.
My reason for starting this thread is that I'm struggling with the phrase 'the transforming power of the instincts.' I can see Pluto as transformative, and as the collective survival instincts, and I can see that one has to transform to survive. But there's something not clicking into place for me that I hope to get closer to through this discussion.
Many thanks for your contributions