InfoOverload2
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Can someone help me understand?
What is the significance of parallels and declinations?
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JUPITERASC
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it is important to recognise the difference
between a parallel
and
a conjunction
A parallel by Declination is not the same as a conjunction by Longitude
A parallel is a measurement of declination as measured from the Equator
A conjunction by celestial latitude is measured from the Ecliptic
DEFINITION OF ECLIPTIC
The apparent path of the Sun's motion on the celestial sphere
as seen from Earth
is called the ecliptic.
The ecliptic plane is tilted 23.5° with respect to the plane of the celestial equator
since the Earth's spin axis is tilted 23.5° with respect to its orbit around the sun.
The ecliptic plane intersects the celestial equatorial plane
along the line between the equinoxes.
source: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/eclip.html
In traditional astrology, conjunction by celestial latitude
(which occurs when two planets are in the same hemisphere
and equally placed north or south of the ecliptic) is important
but it was not part of the antiscia technique
and should not be confused with the modem 'parallels of declination'
which are measured instead from the equator.
To ancient astrologers the direction and latitude of a planet
were very significant, used to reveal much about a planet's power and fortitude.
The best planetary position is to be in the northern hemisphere, rising in latitude
the worst in the south, descending.
This consideration is especially relevant to the Moon
who is most fortuitous when northern, rising
and at the same time increasing in light. Deborah Houlding - Skyscript
IleneK
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Hmmm, let's see if I remember any of this correctly.
-Declination [and its associated parallel] generally are other ways of describing the relationship between planetary bodies in space, like the aspect.
-Aspects are about the relationship between planets longitudinally, marking positions as they move along the celestial equator.
-Declination is connected more with latitude and descibes planetary bodies' distance above and below the celestial equator.
-Planets are parallel if the two bodies are the same distance above and below the equator.
-They are contraparallel if one planet is the same distance above the celestial equator as the other is below the celestial eq.
Planets being parallel has a similar quality to the conjunction; contraparallel, to the opposition. They need to be closely in orb.
PS As an aside, for planets to be truly conjunct [in the same place in space] they would need to be conjunct both by aspect and by declination.
Parallels of declination have, traditionally, been considered to have the same astrological influence as a strong conjunction (in longitude) does; parallels of declination are unquestionably the most over-looked and under appreciated major facet in astrological delineation today.
Orb is variable; strict constructionists give an orb of 1 degree or less; others, like me, give an average orb of 1.5 degrees, and under certain circumstances will extend that out to as much as 2 degrees.
Orb is variable; strict constructionists give an orb of 1 degree or less; others, like me, give an average orb of 1.5 degrees, and under certain circumstances will extend that out to as much as 2 degrees.
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InfoOverload2
Well-known member
it is important to recognise the difference
between a parallel
and
a conjunction
A parallel by Declination is not the same as a conjunction by Longitude
A parallel is a measurement of declination as measured from the Equator
A conjunction by celestial latitude is measured from the Ecliptic
DEFINITION OF ECLIPTIC
The apparent path of the Sun's motion on the celestial sphere
as seen from Earth
is called the ecliptic.
The ecliptic plane is tilted 23.5° with respect to the plane of the celestial equator
since the Earth's spin axis is tilted 23.5° with respect to its orbit around the sun.
The ecliptic plane intersects the celestial equatorial plane
along the line between the equinoxes.
source: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/eclip.html
In traditional astrology, conjunction by celestial latitude
(which occurs when two planets are in the same hemisphere
and equally placed north or south of the ecliptic) is important
but it was not part of the antiscia technique
and should not be confused with the modem 'parallels of declination'
which are measured instead from the equator.
To ancient astrologers the direction and latitude of a planet
were very significant, used to reveal much about a planet's power and fortitude.
The best planetary position is to be in the northern hemisphere, rising in latitude
the worst in the south, descending.
This consideration is especially relevant to the Moon
who is most fortuitous when northern, rising
and at the same time increasing in light. Deborah Houlding - Skyscript
VERY helpful, thanks to you all for helping someone with ADHD get a grip of this
waybread
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Right-- parallels work like conjunctions. Counter-parallels work like oppositions. I would also use a very narrow orb.
They are definitely worth looking at. In my chart, a wide conjunction to the moon turns out to be a close parallel. Which reinforces the aspect.
You can find these at Astrodienst www.astro.com but you have to click on the additional data tables. Parallels are at the same degree at either north or south latitude. With counter-parallels, the planets will be at the same degree, but one will be north and one will be south.
AppLeo
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Parallels are pretty important because they act like the conjunction in normal aspects, except on the latitude level.
But I will point out, parallels are usually seen as insignificant because a planet that is conjunct normally to another planet is often parallel as well. Rarely do planets conjunct but don't parallel.
But I will point out, parallels are usually seen as insignificant because a planet that is conjunct normally to another planet is often parallel as well. Rarely do planets conjunct but don't parallel.
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JUPITERASC
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Planets frequently conjunct by longitude when not in conjucntion by declination or latitude
JUPITERASC
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DECLINATION AND RIGHT ASCENSION
Right ascension and declination are like longitude and latitude on the surface of the Earth
except that they are measured with respect to the celestial sphere
with the vernal equinox as the origin.
The right ascension and declination for a celestial object
constitute a unique designation of its position
and from them one can determine the observer coordinates
necessary to find the object in their frame of reference.
Right ascension is a celestial longitude
measured in the direction of the Earth's rotation.
Since that rotation makes a complete circle in 24 hours
the notation adopted for right ascension was in terms of hours and minutes
with 24 hours representing the full circle.
Declination is expressed as an angle with respect to the celestial equator.
For example
the celestial coordinates of the star Betelgeuse in the constellation Orion are
right ascension = 5 hours 52 minutes
and the declination is 7 degrees 24 minutes.
A declination south of the celestial equator is given a negative sign.
Right ascension and declination are like longitude and latitude on the surface of the Earth
except that they are measured with respect to the celestial sphere
with the vernal equinox as the origin.
The right ascension and declination for a celestial object
constitute a unique designation of its position
and from them one can determine the observer coordinates
necessary to find the object in their frame of reference.
Right ascension is a celestial longitude
measured in the direction of the Earth's rotation.
Since that rotation makes a complete circle in 24 hours
the notation adopted for right ascension was in terms of hours and minutes
with 24 hours representing the full circle.
Declination is expressed as an angle with respect to the celestial equator.
For example
the celestial coordinates of the star Betelgeuse in the constellation Orion are
right ascension = 5 hours 52 minutes
and the declination is 7 degrees 24 minutes.
A declination south of the celestial equator is given a negative sign.
IleneK
Premium Member
Just for the record, this is incorrect.
Planets conjoin all time while not being parallel. That is why when they do conjoin AND are parallel, they are very powerful.
Review your sources and you will see your error.
UraSatVen1029
Well-known member
So for example, when one has Sun-Venus conjunct AND parallel, then this person is very tied to their Venus energy that's just smacked on their basic ego/self (Sun)?
IleneK
Premium Member
Whatever symbolism you choose to delineate that conjunction, [and I would certainly include your symbolism for sign and house], it would just be significantly more powerful than if only conjunct and not parallel.
UraSatVen1029
Well-known member
By more powerful, you mean it has more influence than other aspects that a person has on their natal chart?