Will me and Denis get married next month?

loveis

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We want to get married next month

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1st house rulers Jupiter,Jupiter is in Aries in the fourth house
7th house rulers Mercury,Mercury is in Aries in the fourth

Mercury is retro but will apply to a conjunction to Jupiter

Mars collects the light of Mercury to Jupiter

Mercury receives Jupiter(trip.)
Jupiter receives Mercury(term)

Will me and Denis get married next month?

i'll be thanksful for any reading!
 
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loveis

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theres no prohibition or frustration
and mercury will be direct next month and will aspect

and mars collects the light of mercury to jupiter , they both receive mars

and mercury receives jupiter and jupiter receives mercury
 

tikana

Well-known member
Love

you forgot mars/saturn oppostion

plus Merc and Jupiter combustion .. both in anti-venus loving signs.. WHAT MARRRIAGE!?

NO YOU ARE NOT marrying this dude

T
 
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loveis

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mars/saturn oppositions before.

mars will collect the light of mercury to jupiter after that,they both receive mars.

they can still perform
they aren't peregrine jupiter triplicity mercury term
 

DiDi

Well-known member
not sure where your from but doesnt it take a month to get a licence so 2 people can get "married ceremony"
do you and him want to get married?
have you made plans yet to be married?

whats the reason for this chart?

best of luck
 

tikana

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mars/saturn oppositions before.

mars will collect the light of mercury to jupiter after that,they both receive mars.

they can still perform
they aren't peregrine jupiter triplicity mercury term


NO IT DOES NOT!

mars is and saturn are prohibtion for your marriage charts

Refer to skyscript.co.uk... there is a thread explaining Mars/saturn/merc/jupiter

if you are so sure,.. why do you keep posting charts ifyou are so sure you are getting married?!
 

loveis

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NO IT DOES NOT!

mars is and saturn are prohibtion for your marriage charts

Refer to skyscript.co.uk... there is a thread explaining Mars/saturn/merc/jupiter

if you are so sure,.. why do you keep posting charts ifyou are so sure you are getting married?!

because i like horary astrology

mars and saturn aren't prohibition,mars and saturn ARENT signifiactors
 

tikana

Well-known member
when you get married .. post the outcome!

a prohibitor will tell you WHY and who interferes with the marrage

mars reaches saturn BEFORE it reaches merc so mars CANNOT be a TOL planet AT ALL! Besides Merc is faster than Mars .. TOL only works when 3rd TOL planet is faster by nature than the separating main significators.

btw in all 3 charts you posted .. HE IS BACKING out on all of the charts!
 

loveis

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when you get married .. post the outcome!

a prohibitor will tell you WHY and who interferes with the marrage

mars reaches saturn BEFORE it reaches merc so mars CANNOT be a TOL planet AT ALL! Besides Merc is faster than Mars .. TOL only works when 3rd TOL planet is faster by nature than the separating main significators.

btw in all 3 charts you posted .. HE IS BACKING out on all of the charts!


i will.
what prohibitor?? what the prohibitor tells you? who interferes with the marriage?

mercury is retro,mars will do it after reaching saturn
 

loveis

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yeah mars along with saturn will interfere with the marriage
your fiance/bf wil back out

Tikana

mars and saturn arent signifcators

mars isnt a TOL planet,mars COLLECTS the light of mercury to jupiter
they both APPLY to mars

and mars/saturn oppositions before, mercury AND jupiter will apply to a conjunction with mars AFTER that
 
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loveis

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whateva ... look up in the books if you think you are right

i looked it up,im right
Collection of Light

Where two planets, whether applying, separating or making no aspect to each other, both apply by to a third planet that "collects their light" and thereby establishes a relationship between the two.

Lilly writes of collection (CA., p.126)


Matters are also brought to perfection, when as the two principall Significators doe not behold one another, but both cast their severall Aspects to a more weighty Planet then themselves, and they both receive him in some of their essential dignities; then shall that Planet who thus collects both their Lights, bring the thing demanded to perfection: which signifies no more in Art then this, that a Person somewhat interested in both parties and described and signified by that Planet, shall perform, effect and conclude the thing which otherwise could not be perfected: As many times you see two fall at variance, and of themselves cannot think of any way of accommodation, when suddenly a neighbour or friend accidentally reconciles all differences, to the content of both parties: And this is called Collection.
 

tikana

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of course you are right *rolling eyes*

Merc and Jupiter - COMBUSTED!
Merc and Jupiter ARE NOT in Venitian sign - you must have that

Merc retro
mars meets saturn with oppostion then goes to meet merc - THERE IS NO COLLECTION OF LIGHT!
the collection of light has to happen when 2 planets fast joining a slower one. in your chart .. Mars is fast, Merc is slower because of retro and Jupiter is the slowest

Moon is in virgo opposing Venus - and VENUS rules 10th house outcome of 7th house issues - NO WAY! no marriage
whateva!
 

BobZemco

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i looked it up,im right

You don't understand Collection. You have to learn the Planetary Order:

Moon
Mercury
Venus
Sun
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn

That tells you a lot of things. First, a Planet can only make an aspect to a Planet below it on the list. That means Moon can aspect Jupiter, but Jupiter cannot form an aspect with Moon (unless Jupiter is Retrograde). Sun can aspect Jupiter, but Jupiter cannot aspect Sun (unless Jupiter is Retrograde).

For Translation of Light, the Translator has to be faster than the two Planets it is translating light. From the Planetary Order list, both Planets have to be below the Translator. That means Mercury can never translate light from the Moon to another Planet. Jupiter and Saturn can never function as Translators.

For Collection of Light, the Collector has to be slower than both of the other Planets it is collecting light. On the list you read up, instead of down and the Planets must be above the Collector on the list. That means Moon and Mercury can never Collect Light. Venus can collect light only from Moon and Mercury, and no other Planets. Sun can collect light from Moon, Mercury, Venus and not others. Mars can never collect light from Jupiter or Saturn, and Jupiter cannot collect light from Saturn.

It doesn't matter if Mars is Slow, Retrograde, Stationary or the Ghost of Christmas Past, Mars can never collect light from Jupiter.

Not only that, but Collectors and Translators cannot be impeded.

By definition, a Planet that is Combust can never collect or translate light. In fact, a Planet that is Combust cannot form aspects. A Combust Planet is overpowered by the Sun. The Planet is drowned out by the light of the Sun. It is powerless. It cannot make aspects because while Combust it cannot receive the light of any other Planet.

That isn't symbology, that is reality. In real life, a Planet Combust cannot be seen, because it is hidden by the Sun's Corona. Even with technology like thermal imaging, infrared, ultra-violet, spectrometers and such, they are difficult if not impossible to see (you can radar image them).

There is no Collection of Light in this chart. I can see that Ascendant Ruler Jupiter is Combust (though separating) which describes you: powerless. I can see why you'd be grasping at straws. Saturn was a tremendous obstacle to you.

The applying conjunction Mercury/Jupiter is useless to you. There is no Reception. Jupiter and Mercury are Friends, so no harm, no foul. Mercury is also opposing Saturn. Note that Libra is a Human/Violent Sign and Aries is a Bestial/Violent Sign. That could make things unpleasant.

Jupiter will never perfect the opposition with Saturn, but Mercury will. The symbolism of Jupiter escaping from Combustion (with the Sun separating from Jupiter) is that now you have a chance to change your life for the better by moving on.
 

loveis

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You don't understand Collection. You have to learn the Planetary Order:

Moon
Mercury
Venus
Sun
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn

That tells you a lot of things. First, a Planet can only make an aspect to a Planet below it on the list. That means Moon can aspect Jupiter, but Jupiter cannot form an aspect with Moon (unless Jupiter is Retrograde). Sun can aspect Jupiter, but Jupiter cannot aspect Sun (unless Jupiter is Retrograde).

For Translation of Light, the Translator has to be faster than the two Planets it is translating light. From the Planetary Order list, both Planets have to be below the Translator. That means Mercury can never translate light from the Moon to another Planet. Jupiter and Saturn can never function as Translators.

For Collection of Light, the Collector has to be slower than both of the other Planets it is collecting light. On the list you read up, instead of down and the Planets must be above the Collector on the list. That means Moon and Mercury can never Collect Light. Venus can collect light only from Moon and Mercury, and no other Planets. Sun can collect light from Moon, Mercury, Venus and not others. Mars can never collect light from Jupiter or Saturn, and Jupiter cannot collect light from Saturn.

It doesn't matter if Mars is Slow, Retrograde, Stationary or the Ghost of Christmas Past, Mars can never collect light from Jupiter.

Not only that, but Collectors and Translators cannot be impeded.

By definition, a Planet that is Combust can never collect or translate light. In fact, a Planet that is Combust cannot form aspects. A Combust Planet is overpowered by the Sun. The Planet is drowned out by the light of the Sun. It is powerless. It cannot make aspects because while Combust it cannot receive the light of any other Planet.

That isn't symbology, that is reality. In real life, a Planet Combust cannot be seen, because it is hidden by the Sun's Corona. Even with technology like thermal imaging, infrared, ultra-violet, spectrometers and such, they are difficult if not impossible to see (you can radar image them).

There is no Collection of Light in this chart. I can see that Ascendant Ruler Jupiter is Combust (though separating) which describes you: powerless. I can see why you'd be grasping at straws. Saturn was a tremendous obstacle to you.

The applying conjunction Mercury/Jupiter is useless to you. There is no Reception. Jupiter and Mercury are Friends, so no harm, no foul. Mercury is also opposing Saturn. Note that Libra is a Human/Violent Sign and Aries is a Bestial/Violent Sign. That could make things unpleasant.

Jupiter will never perfect the opposition with Saturn, but Mercury will. The symbolism of Jupiter escaping from Combustion (with the Sun separating from Jupiter) is that now you have a chance to change your life for the better by moving on.

Mercury is retro,mars can collect the light from mercury and jupiter because they are slower

It doesn't matter if Mars is Slow, Retrograde, Stationary or the Ghost of Christmas Past, Mars can never collect light from Jupiter.

where did you read that?

Jupiter will never perfect the opposition with Saturn, but Mercury will. The symbolism of Jupiter escaping from Combustion (with the Sun separating from Jupiter) is that now you have a chance to change your life for the better by moving on.[/


Why jupiter will never perfect the opposition with saturn?
what the opposition with saturn means?
moving on?? what do you mean??


The applying conjunction Mercury/Jupiter is useless to you. There is no Reception. Jupiter and Mercury are Friends, so no harm, no foul. Mercury is also opposing Saturn. Note that Libra is a Human/Violent Sign and Aries is a Bestial/Violent Sign. That could make things unpleasant.

the applying conjunction Mercury/Jupiter isn't useless to me,theres mutual reception.
mercury receives jupiter(trip.)
jupiter receives mercury(term)
 
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Serendipity

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Your significators are separating in your chart. And collection of light?
You're trying to make a no a yes here.
Not sure why you'd post a chart for people to read and argue with everything they said.
 

loveis

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Your significators are separating in your chart. And collection of light?
You're trying to make a no a yes here.
Not sure why you'd post a chart for people to read and argue with everything they said.

im trying to understand.

Mercury is retro and will apply to a conjunction with Jupiter,mutual reception
 
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