will I get pregnant again ?

[katence]

Hi again J
I have been trying to post a question here for some time but since I am new in this I was not successful at all.
I hope the chart I’ve made is correct this time.
The question is:
Will I get pregnant again?
The question has risen after the ectopic pregnancy I had and surgery when my left tube was removed or more precisely on 22 of April 2008 at 10:16 AM in Skopje Macedonia.
Hope someone can help me answer this very important question to my self for which I thank you in advance J

[starlink]

Dear Katence, I will have a look at your chart but I also would like YOU to first interprete your own chart and see what you think. It does not matter how little you know, but the horary rules are that you should try interpreting the chart first by yourself, then we can help you out and /or correct/help you after that. Thanks.
Starlink

[katence]

Dear Starlink,
thank you for encouragement even though my knowledge of the horary and astrology in genral is very modest J
Ok let me try from what I have learned until now - unfortunately still confused:
The significator – moon is in the fifth house signifying that pregnancy has already occurred? This I relate to the ectopic pregnancy I had and that has really surprised me.
Also moon is in Scorpio that is considered a fertile sign.
Moon trine ascendant would also be good aspect.
The ruler of the fifth house is Saturn which is placed in the third house and retrograde. This would signify problems in communication… which I don’t understand why…
The sextile between moon and Jupiter (in the seventh house) is a positive aspect.
However Jupiter is in fall in Capricorn – bad. It might symbolize doctors L and bad luck with them or…
With this placement of Jupiter as significator of successful outcome of an event I don’t think this is promising to be a positive answer to my question...
The question here is what about his placement in the 7 house? Is this encouraging?
Jupiter in the seventh house (second child) might signify that the second pregnancy will occur – or will be successful?
The sun (cosignificator) and mercury are in the 11th house – house of wishes and hopes. This should be a dream come true signification or…?
I read somewhere that this is a house of step-children – would this mean adopted child or I lost the track here ??
I have mars in ascendant which I read somewhere that signifies scar on the face (I have several of these J )
I guess the above said is very confusing but so am I J And it is very hard to be objective when you are trying to interpret your questions and concerns J
….

[starlink]

Very good try Katence! Well, I think there is a chance of you getting pregnant again because there is a Mutual Reception between Moon and Mars! Scorpio is indeed a fertile sign and with that Moon (you) in the 5th house and ruler of pregnancy (Mars) in the 1st, well, that does not look too bad.

However, Mars and Moon are both in fall,and also, Moon is VOC, usually showing that nothing will come of the matter, so this is not a very fortunate mutual reception. Nevertheless, Mars is ruler of the triplicity in Cancer and also Angular and the end of the matter house is ruled by Mercury on it's way out of the beams of the Sun, angular and in own term and face, as well as accidentally dignified, so I think that there is still a chance that you could get pregnant. I think the best thing is to ask your possibilities of being able to get pregnant to you doctor. There is still the possibility of artificial insimination as well.
I wish you much luck in this.
Cheers, Starlink

[katence]

Dear Starlink,

thank you on the interpretation and above all on the honesty
Still I am afraid I didn't understand well the signification of Mercury?

Originally Posted by starlink

However, Mars and Moon are both in fall, and also, Moon is VOC, usually showing that nothing will come of the matter, so this is not a very fortunate mutual reception. Nevertheless, Mars is ruler of the triplicity in Cancer and also Angular and the end of the matter house is ruled by Mercury on it's way out of the beams of the Sun, angular and in own term and face, as well as accidentally dignified, so I think that there is still a chance that you could get pregnant.

What about Jupiter? How do you see its placement in the 7th house but in fall?

[starlink]

Hello Katence, To answer you question:

I didn't understand well the signification of Mercury?

This one is not difficult, the Jupiter question is another matter....
OK, you see that your 4th house cusp falls in the sign Virgo. This sign is ruled by Mercury. The 4th house rules the outcome of this question.
Now, Mercury as you can see, falls in the 11th house of your hope and wishes. This is a very fortunate house by the way. Mercury is very close to the Sun as you can see and that is called:"under the Sunbeams".
There are three stages to know when a planet conjuncts the Sun
When the planet is only 0°17' away from the Sun, then the planet is extremely strong (except the Moon. The Sun-Moon conjunction is the worst conjunction you can think of in horary). This very close conjunction is called Cazimi.
Now, when the planet moves away from the conjunction and he is between 0°17' and 8°.5 away from the Sun, the planet is combust. this is comparable to a 3rd degree burning. The person who is signified by that planet cannot see what is happening, he is probably blinded by the light of the Sun and therefore he is going to be "burned" badly (methaphorically speaking of course).
When that same planet then moves further away from the Sun and he is still between 8.5 degrees and 17 degrees away from the Sun, he will just get a strong sunburn. This is called "under the Sunbeams".
Note that an outgoing aspect (like in this case) is always better of course than when the planet moves from a sunburn to a really bad 3rd degree burn!

So this Mercury, who rules your house of "the outcome" is moving away from a bad situation and is in a very fertile sign and in the house of your hopes and wishes. In approx. 11 degrees (which could be 11 month, succedent house and fixed sign, so that cannot be days or weeks)he will sextile Uranus showing a sudden unexpected event and immediately after that sextile Mars, ruler of your 5th house of pregnancy and children .Uranus here only shows a sudden event or sudden change. Uranus is never taken as ruler of any houses in horary, but he can generally depict sudden events or be descriptive of a situation or a person, especially when he is Angular. This Uranus is very close to the 10th house cusp as you can see. So a sudden event could happen in the home.

Now you want to know about Jupiter. Well, Jupiter does not have much to do with this question really.It shows other things that are happening at the moment.

It rules the 6th house of illness and people working for you, like your cleaning woman and it rules your 10th house, your career, your mother, your social standing. Mars, ruler of your 5th and your 1st house co-significator will oppose Jupiter in exactly 1° which can be 1 month or week after the question.You probably felt a bit insecure and did not want so much to talk about your situation (pregnancy etc.) with others at that moment. Ruler of Jupiter is Saturn and he is in the 3rd of communication and retrograde you see and that often shows a pulling back from talking to others.

Hope this answers your questions
All the very best to you for the future!

Oh yes, by the way, you were right about adoption house (11th). I read that as well somehow. 5th house, your own kids, 11th house other people's kids which in horary can also be seen by looking at the 5th house of the 7th.

Cheers, Starlink

[katence]

Dear Starlink,

Thank you sooo much on the interpretation. It is amazing how simplified things sound now that you have explained. I am really having hard time in finding a clue on issues like this one in the books, web pages…. But you probably know how difficult it is with the beginnings. I hope to advance in my knowledge of astrology like you did some day J Especially horary – it is more simple I think J
And about my problem… I’ve recognized hope in your words but I too am sure I’ll have a child one day… soon J
By the way I just found it is your birthday today... So I am using this opportunity to whish you very happy birthday and all the best in the new year to come
Another taurus like me ... that expalanes why communicating with you is easy )

[starlink]

Hi Katence, thank you for your Birthday wishes! When is your birthday then? You can PM it to me if you dont want to show it publicly.
Yes, astrology is very overpowering in the beginning. So many sides to it, so many different things to be aware of, but little by little they start sticking in your mind, trust me. I made lists for myself (for horary) like one page only with the "considerations before judgement" so when I start with a new chart, I would look over the whole chart, checking them all. After a while you dont need that list anymore. Than the antiscion/contra antiscion, which was a problem for me, same thing, I made a list of them. Now I know them by heart. Just take it one thing at the time and follow as many readings here in the Forum as you find time for. You will see, soon you will be able to give your ideas on a chart.

Cheers fellow Taurus! Star.

[katence]

Hi again Starlink

No problem to disclose my birthday data:
I was born on 12th of May 1977 in Skopje, Republic of Macedonia... at 09:30 (morning person )

Keep in touch and again thanks for everything...

[starlink]

Thanks Katence! I have made a note of it.

[starlink]

Hello Katence, I had a quick look at your progressed Moon and 5th house ruler. Well, the Moon is in the best sign for pregnancy possible, because she is in exaltation and at the beginning of the sign. (3° Taurus), so till the end of Taurus it still has to travel 27 degrees. Progr. Moon moves about 1° per month, sometimes a bit more, like 1.5°. Pr. Moon is also in your 10th house, prominently placed. So within the next 2 years, I think there could be a possibility for you to get pregnant again.

Your 5th house is ruled by a fertile sign. Interestingly the two rulers, Mars and Pluto exactly oppose one another. Maybe that shows the problems you are having to get pregnant.

Mars, Pluto and also Jupiter, the co-ruler of your 5th house (Sagittarius is intercepted in your 5th) all three make good aspects to your Ascendant.

Solar Arc Moon is at 17° Aries at the moment and will conjunct your natal MC in 3°11'. Now it is possible of course that your birthtime is not corrected and the MC and ASC fall a little bit earlier, like around 19°. If so, than this Solar Arc Moon could show a change again in your social surroundings, like maybe becoming a mother . In any case a change is shown here. You could move house.

Pluto in your natal is trining Jupiter and that usually shows more than one pregnancy or child, but the sextile to Saturn could show that it can be at a later stage (Saturn always shows things going slow).

Your Progressed Ascendant will move into a new sign as well in 2 years. This shows a new beginning of some sorts.

Anyways, just wanted to let you know. I realy do hope you will!! Cheers,Starlink.

[katence]

Starlink,
This was a real surprise J
Thank you very much on having looked at my natal and progressions, but above all, thank you for being so kind and inspirational J

I am only worried of the natal Venus being so badly positioned … and in conjunction with mars… poor her J
You are probably right of the birth time… Mom doesn’t remember details just round figures J

Anyway I really appreciate your warm thoughts and encouragement which considering everything that I went through these past months are really welcomed J

Have a nice and I hope sunny weekend J

[starlink]

Oh well, I would not worry too much about Venus. In this chart she does not represent your 5th house. Pluto does and he is very well aspected with your Sun and his own ruler! I have Mars conj. Venus in Aries in my 5th and I have 2 kids, so even with this detrimented Venus of mine, I got pregnant.
And my 5th house is ruled by Neptune in opposition to Venus as well!! So actually my chart does not look that fabulous for fertility does it now? There you are.

I just read John Frawley again about this (for the horary question of course)and the fact that the 1st house ruler is in the 5th and 5th house ruler in the 1st is a very positive thing for pregnancy in a horary. If it would only have been the Moon there, then it means only that you are thinking of babies, not that you are getting pregnant, but when ruler 5 is in 1 (and even better!) conjunct your Ascendant, then there is good reason to believe that you can get pregnant again. So you relax now and things will come as they come. Cheers, and thanks for your kind words, very sweet of you!! Starlink

[starlink]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU KATENCE!!!

I really hope that the new year will bring you great happiness and anything else you wish for!

Big birthday hug, Caroline

[katence]

Dear Caroline thank you on the warm wishes
The year had already begun great, having such new friendships here on the forum
Thanks a lot,

Katerina