Indicators of wealth in my chart

potion · #1 03-18-2010, 08:53 AM

Hey all

I have been doing some reading on the indicators of wealth in a natal chart and am keen to have a crack at interpreting my own. Can anyone here give me some feedback on my interpretation and / or things I have missed or interpreted incorrectly? Thanks!

Positive:

- Ruler (venus) of 2nd house (finances) dignified in my 6th house. I know this is a good sign however does the fact that Venus is the sole depositor in my chart influence this as well? Does having the ruler of my 2nd house is in my 6th indicate that I will earn wealth through the service of others?

Negative:

- POF has a tight square from the moon and an opposition from jupiter. I know that stressful aspects to the POF aren't great so i think these aspects are counting against me so to speak.

Other / unsure:

- POF in the 10th house (11th in equal house system - but placidus feels right for my chart) possibly indicating success through my career?

- Ruler of the POF house (Saturn) in the 5th house with a tight square to Neptune and a nice sextile to Uranus. With one good and bad aspect I guess these kind of cancel each out?

- Jupiter conjunct regulus, i have read this can indicate success. Am i taking it too far to suggest it may have a positive impact on my wealth?

Conclusion

Well starting with my ruler of the 2nd house being dignified things look great. Then the stressful aspects to my POF bring me down a bit. Lastly, no great placements or aspects to my POF house ruler dont add anything indicative of great wealth. I guess the indicators in my chart would suggest I am unlikely to be a squillionaire. What a shame!

Given that i dont have any planets in my 2nd house i cant work out if there is anything else that may indicate the level of wealth inherent in my chart. I would love some feedback on this, i am keen to learn

Cheers

James

Mr stellium · #2 03-18-2010, 09:27 AM

Whole sign houses...
Look to the following for wealth:
2nd house as you've already mentioned.
POF as you've already mentioned.
11th sign from POF, planets here and condition of the ruler.
From age 29 to approx. 60, Venus is your ruling Triplicity lord (It was Mars/Leo/4th from birth till then) therefore if the natal promise is for wealth it will come during this period.
More specifically, you should become increasingly wealthy from ages 27 to 39 (POF rulership taken up by Jupiter for 12 years).
The reason you are not wealthy now (astrologically) is because the POF ruler is Saturn (birth to 27 years), not aspecting Aquarius in a cadent house (6th) - Much better from ages 27 to 39 when Jupiter/Leo/4th conjunct Regulus, Ruling the Acquisition (11th from POF) takes over.
Going from "Rags" (Saturn/Virgo/6th) to "Riches" (Jupiter/Leo/4th and Venus/Libra/7th) is definitely a possibility (Not that I'm saying you are in "Rags" by the way!).
Best of luck and expect the best!

astrologer50 · #3 03-18-2010, 08:53 PM

When we talk about money and earning it, we look to the money houses 2nd (how you earn your money) and 8th (other people's money,joint finances )then MC

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Well starting with my ruler of the 2nd house being dignified things look great. Then the stressful aspects to my POF bring me down a bit. Lastly, no great placements or aspects to my POF house ruler dont add anything indicative of great wealth. I guess the indicators in my chart would suggest I am unlikely to be a squillionaire. What a shame!

Your aspects to POF are ok oppositions are 'other people' and moon =mother or women. It gets problematic when the malifics are aspecting, these two are benefics....

Your stellium in libra with venus in the middle can be more or less classed as one huge aspect. Anything making a hard aspect to libra planets will set off the whole stellium

Ruler of MC saturn in 5th may delay or block and creativity or wanting children and the aspect square to Neptune is a 'fear of the unknown' and quite poss father, men blocking your dreams aspirations and fantasies in childhood. Your N Node in virgo in 5th suggests this is going to be your life Lessons to pay attention details and be creative expressive and be more childlike

Having Neptune in 8th house isn't good, cos whomever you share your finances with could pull the wool over your eyes, confusion, dissolving joint finances etc.

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature, bit like google using keywords --

The Moon in the 8th is an indication that in past lives the emotional needs of others were denied as a result of an overly self-centered, materialistic, or cerebral reality. The sign of the Moon will indicate which. Moon 8th are commonly born to parents who cannot function at an emotional level. With other planetary factors, this placement of the Moon can indicate the loss of a parent early in life in which the child is burdened by the bereaved parent’s emotional needs. acutely sensitive to the emotional states of others
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoun...armaHouse8.htm

You also have a 'bowl' chart and worth researching

Vagabondgirl · #4 03-18-2010, 09:43 PM

I also have neptune in the 8th! Too bad.... I tend to overspend in some way. Although Im going to become a doctor in a few years, Im pretty sure Ill manage to overspend then also

Besides, my neptune is squaring moon and venus. Im blinded by the beauty of stuff and buy it, not thinking about the economical consequence

Its like these objects cast a spell over me!

astrologer50 · #5 03-18-2010, 11:36 PM

with that stellium planets in 6th house it's all about 'being of service' to people, maybe in health industries. Libra loves talking reception, customer facing interactions, but have pluto conj mercury also makes a great detective, analyst and researcher.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...highlight=moon
here's a thread on 8th house moons

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature, bit like google using keywords --

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

"Neptune in the Eighth House:two glasses of wine maximum and this one is yours. If you’re business partners with a Neptune in the eighth house person, YOU manage the money. If you yourself have this placement, learn to watch your partners. Neptune is where we get into trouble because we don’t want to be bothered by something that not "spiritual" (reality)."
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/eigthhouse.htm

"challenges regarding shared finances or property during this cycle. On the other hand, a loan or other form of support may come through unexpectedly, even in a mysterious fashion. Intimate relationships can be highly colorful, perhaps with spiritual undercurrents, but also a little confusing. The boundaries that are normally drawn between what is yours and what is mine may be blurred somewhat during this Neptune transit. A partner could have unsettled finances, and this could impact your own finances. Do be wary of anything that even slightly resembles fraud. Lending others money may be a lesson in frustration now."
http://www.cafeastrology.com/neptune...ts_houses.html

"Eighth House Neptune in the eighth house suggests a strong association with the funds of others; inheritances, taxes, insurance and company funds. This denotes unusual, secret, or deceptive circumstances surrounding joint funds, insurance, taxes, or legacies. In some unfortunate cases, losses and bizarre difficulties relate to partners' finances or corporate money, through deception by either yourself or others. Be particularly careful with matters relating to taxation, the handling of insurance matters, and all legal dealings." http://www.astrology-numerology.com/...s-neptune.html

potion · #6 03-19-2010, 04:50 AM

Thanks for the replies Mr Stellium, Astrologer50 and Vaganondgirl.

Mr Stellium, i forgot about the 11th sign from the POF, this sign doesnt have much going on other than the ruler squaring the moon and a wide trine to the Ascendant and MC. I'm not 100% clear on how to determine that venus is the ruling triplicity for that period, i will do some more research. I'm glad the next few years are looking good though!

Astrologer50, in relation to my POF aspects, didn't think about the fact that Jupiter and the moon are benefics - thats great news. Very interesting what you said about my stellium acting as one aspect, i will give some thought to how this manifests in my life. Thanks also for pointing out the bowl configuration, from what i have read it is very accurate and i understand that mars will be given extra emphasis given that it is the bowl leader and also the ruler of my 1st house. I have also read a lot of the stickies and searched extensively, nothing beats first hand advice from an expert though

Vagabondgirl, yup, i love spending too - although i am not too reckless!

Thanks again for the feedback here, greatly appreciated.

bardevolved · #7 07-03-2011, 04:22 PM

Can anyone highlight if i have any good money prospect

It is for sure i have a big desire to make big money...may be pluto in 8th house....and i am not satisfied in a job which demands me to take command....i always try to start something some business of my own...can anyone suggest..what business i should enter into and also pls check if i have any money making potential

I think my pof is in 12th house of loss and hopelessness... it squares venus and opposes mars 2nd lord... i think this dampans the prospect

2ndly lord of pof lord saturn is in good aspect to mars 2nd lord, jupiter 10th lord and staurn is in libra exalted but under sun's beam...i have heard a planet in its exaltation has no effect of combustion

Saturn is 8th house ....money from other sources....

Can anyone suggest anything more

I have heard squares and oppositions sometime gives more drive than the easy aspects...hence i have a strong drive and sometimes longining to become a self-made successful enterprrenuer

Planet Longitude House
position
Sun 04 Lib 12' 10" 8
Moon 25 Vir 25' 17" 7
Mercury 29 Lib 57' 56" 8
Venus 16 Sco 46' 57" 9
Mars 15 Leo 49' 23" 6
Jupiter 17 Lib 07' 35" 8
Saturn 11 Lib 45' 31" 8
Uranus 27 Sco 15' 55" 9
Neptune 22 Sag 14' 36" 10
Pluto 23 Lib 28' 06" 8
Chiron 22 Tau 24' 13" R 3
Lilith 00 Sag 22' 55" 9
Node 29 Can 40' 60" R 6
P. of Fortune 14 Aqu 57' 46" 12
Vertex 15 Vir 08' 54" 7

House Longitude
Ascendant 23 Aqu 44' 39"
House 2 02 Ari 06' 20"
House 3 05 Tau 52' 37"
House 4 03 Gem 42' 55"
House 5 28 Gem 27' 53"
House 6 23 Can 44' 38"
House 7 23 Leo 44' 39"
House 8 02 Lib 06' 20"
House 9 05 Sco 52' 37"
MC (Midheaven) 03 Sag 42' 55"
House 11 28 Sag 27' 53"
House 12 23 Cap 44' 38"

Planet Aspect Planet Orb

Sun Conjunction Saturn 7.56
Sun Sextile Uranus 6.94
Sun Sextile Midheaven 0.49

Moon Sextile Uranus 1.84
Moon Square Neptune 3.18
Moon Trine Chiron 3.02
Moon Quincunx Ascendant 1.68

Mercury Square Node 0.28

Venus Square Mars 0.96
Venus Opposition Chiron 5.62
Venus Square P. of Fortune 1.82
Venus Sextile Vertex 1.63

Mars Square Venus 0.96
Mars Sextile Jupiter 1.30
Mars Sextile Saturn 4.06
Mars Opposition P. of Fortune 0.86

Jupiter Sextile Mars 1.30
Jupiter Conjunction Saturn 5.37
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 5.12
Jupiter Quincunx Chiron 5.28

Saturn Conjunction Sun 7.56
Saturn Sextile Mars 4.06
Saturn Conjunction Jupiter 5.37

Uranus Sextile Sun 6.94
Uranus Sextile Moon 1.84
Uranus Opposition Chiron 4.86
Uranus Trine Node 2.42
Uranus Square Ascendant 3.52

Neptune Square Moon 3.18
Neptune Sextile Jupiter 5.12
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.23
Neptune Quincunx Chiron 0.16
Neptune Sextile Ascendant 1.50

Pluto Sextile Neptune 1.23
Pluto Quincunx Chiron 1.06
Pluto Trine Ascendant 0.28

Chiron Trine Moon 3.02
Chiron Opposition Venus 5.62
Chiron Quincunx Jupiter 5.28
Chiron Opposition Uranus 4.86
Chiron Quincunx Neptune 0.16
Chiron Quincunx Pluto 1.06
Chiron Square Ascendant 1.34

Lilith Trine Node 0.70

Node Square Mercury 0.28
Node Trine Uranus 2.42
Node Trine Lilith 0.70

P. of Fortune Square Venus 1.82
P. of Fortune Opposition Mars 0.86
P. of Fortune Quincunx Vertex 0.19

Vertex Sextile Venus 1.63
Vertex Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.19

Ascendant Quincunx Moon 1.68
Ascendant Square Uranus 3.52
Ascendant Sextile Neptune 1.50
Ascendant Trine Pluto 0.28
Ascendant Square Chiron 1.34

Midheaven Sextile Sun 0.49

astrologer50 · #8 07-04-2011, 09:16 AM

bard, you should know by now after 204 that we are all visual people and need to SEE charts NOT data......

Re: Need some education: Which charts to use when?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17514

Beginning to Study Astrology
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=154469&postcount=10
http://www.soulhealing.com/tutorialwest.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php

How to attach a chart as thumbnail
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126

what members like to see in a thread – help forum
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25930

ATTENTION PLEASE to new members!
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19968

Vagabondgirl · #9 07-04-2011, 12:58 PM

I heard that Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is the "millionaire" point or aspect. And maybe if you have Jupiter conj. Pluto.... Ofcourse I have Mercury/Pluto in scorpio square Jupiter in aquarius:/ Maybe a harder way to go or something....

But my boyfriend has his Jupiter conj. my Mercury/Pluto

Plus his Sun exactly conj. my POF!!! Hope it helps me with becoming more economical! My POF is natally square my Venus:/ But perhaps we need to look more at the money houses? 2nd, 8th..... Should look for the rulers of these and aspects. any others???

byjove · #10 10-29-2011, 12:02 PM

So what can we say are the functions of each of these planets and points? What do they determine? Do you consider Venus and Jupiter even if they don't rule the 2nd, 6th or 10th?

Should we also consider aspects indicating loss of income or over-spending? What's the point of a large income if you make bad decisions and lose it etc.

What does it mean to have both Saturn and Jupiter directly involved in this process?

My POF is conjunct (in the middle of both) Saturn and Uranus in Sagg. but is ruled by Jupiter and the POF is trined by the 2nd ruler the Sun.

astrologer50 · #11 10-29-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potion

Hey all

I have been doing some reading on the indicators of wealth in a natal chart and am keen to have a crack at interpreting my own. Can anyone here give me some feedback on my interpretation and / or things I have missed or interpreted incorrectly? Thanks! [well done, much respect for having a go]
Positive:

- Ruler (venus) of 2nd house (finances) dignified in my 6th house.[No it's domicile on libra not dignified, it's exalted in pisces ] I know this is a good sign however does the fact that Venus is the sole depositor in my chart influence this as well? Does having the ruler of my 2nd house is in my 6th indicate that I will earn wealth through the service of others? [it's a little more complex as venus is in a stellium and takes influences from surrounding combust planets]

Negative:

- POF has a tight square from the moon and an opposition from jupiter. I know that stressful aspects to the POF aren't great so i think these aspects are counting against me so to speak.[venus and jupiter are benefics, so even hard aspects are not going to be 'that troublesome'-- not malifics although neptune is malific]

Other / unsure:

- POF in the 10th house (11th in equal house system - but placidus feels right for my chart) possibly indicating success through my career? [notice POF is conj 11th house cusp even in placidus so as it's within5' orb of house cusp, it is said to have 'more influence' in the next house along going anti clockwise]

- Ruler of the POF house (Saturn) in the 5th house with a tight square to Neptune and a nice sextile to Uranus. With one good and bad aspect I guess these kind of cancel each out? [no like natal aspects, we don't behave/act out just one aspect at any one time, we are all and always will be multi faceted human beings. therefore the Neptune square 'could potentiall'y' wear rose tinted glasses, causes illusions and confusions, but good for spiritual matters though (at times) then at other times the sextile = opportunitiers if we recognise and 'take action' to capitalise on the influence]

- Jupiter conjunct regulus, i have read this can indicate success. Am i taking it too far to suggest it may have a positive impact on my wealth?
[that's really nice, suggesting where you expand and grow =5th house and aspects show 'how' with square to moon both benefic planets, could suggest mother/women, partners (conj vertex)will help you expand and grow in 5th house matters. Not much is known of Regulus although I can provide some links if you want?]
Conclusion

Well starting with my ruler of the 2nd house being dignified [domicile] things look great. Then the stressful aspects to my POF bring me down a bit. Lastly, no great placements or aspects to my POF house ruler dont add anything indicative of great wealth. I guess the indicators in my chart would suggest I am unlikely to be a squillionaire. What a shame!
[POF in Aquarius with Modern astrology is ruled by Uranus rather than Saturn (traditional astrologers). this therefore is linked to partners and joint finances, resources]

Given that i dont have any planets in my 2nd house i cant work out if there is anything else that may indicate the level of wealth inherent in my chart. I would love some feedback on this, i am keen to learn

Cheers

James

Ruler of the Second House in the Sixth House

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Much of your income may be derived from jobs that you're willing to take in order to survive and you place a high value on the work ethic. If you can discover a way to perform duties for others that they would rather avoid, you could definitely increase your earned income.
You feel strongly about taking care of your body's needs and are interested in hygiene, diet and health matters. Avoid overindulgence in starchy foods and too many sweets for a start.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...rships.htm#hr2

use this site to explore all your house rulerships

although conj it will give you an idea/flavour of hard aspects between these two.

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some difficulties between accepting life as it is, and how it is wished to be. This aspect dilutes the ego, making those subject to it all too aware of the thoughts and feelings of others, often to the detriment of the self. It can indicate deep-rooted - or sometimes groundless - fears or anxieties, or a resistence to pursuing objectives when the going gets tough. Those with this aspect are often tireless workers for a cause belonging to someone else and may need reminders that their own needs are precious and worth fighting for.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturnaspects.html#sasne

Saturn conj Neptune
http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/satnepgestalt.html
http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_CONJUNCTION_OR_PARALLEL_TO _SATURN

Money & you
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html
career significators
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
http://www.janetboyer.com/Midheaven_in_Sagittarius.html
http://astropro.ru/horoscope/?p=78

Ruler of 8th is Pluto posited in 6th but conj 7th albeit wide orb 5' so service, co-workers, partners, business partners even. Conj mercury would make a great detective, researcher and analyst and THIS is the way forward to you finances. Mercury conj venus shows you are very capable of written, verbal 'venusian' ie: beautiful, nice communications.I think your own doubts and restlessness and procrastinations are probably your downfall. Libra has problems making decisions at the best of times and some can even be crippled by having to make decisions, just hope you are not one of them. But with pluto there will add amazing mental capacity and strength, could even makea could counsellor...

hope this helps?

astrologer50 · #12 10-29-2011, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vagabondgirl

I heard that Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is the "millionaire" point or aspect. And maybe if you have Jupiter conj. Pluto.... Ofcourse I have Mercury/Pluto in scorpio square Jupiter in aquarius:/ Maybe a harder way to go or something....

But my boyfriend has his Jupiter conj. my Mercury/Pluto

Plus his Sun exactly conj. my POF!!! Hope it helps me with becoming more economical! My POF is natally square my Venus:/ But perhaps we need to look more at the money houses? 2nd, 8th..... Should look for the rulers of these and aspects. any others???

pluto deals with corruption and power struggles and jupiter - legal matters.
I would have thought venus/jupiter midpoint or aspects and posited in 2nd/8th more appropriate...

potion · #13 11-01-2011, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the reply astrologer50 - I posted this some time ago. Originally I was interested in learning about my cacapity for wealth rather than how I would go about earning it but I am also interested in that as well.

Looking at my chart you would think I would earn my money from 6th house matters like hygiene, diet and health. Or working for / being of service to other people. This is not me at all though.

I run / own multiple businesses, have many business partners and my day to day is balanced between 'being the boss' and directing co-workers and also undertaking technical tasks such as data analysis and programming. I also spend a lot of time directing the marketing activities for various companies.

I still don't know exactly how to relate my chart to my wealth potential and career as described above but I have come to these conclusions at least:
>Workaholic - 6th house stellium?
>Technical focus - 6th house lord mercury in virgo, 10th house lord saturn in virgo, uranus aspecting 10th house lord

I think your own doubts and restlessness and procrastinations are probably your downfall. Libra has problems making decisions at the best of times and some can even be crippled by having to make decisions, just hope you are not one of them.

The crazy thing is I am the complete opposite of this. Confident, enthusiatic and quick to charge ahead and make decisions. Something in my chart has messed with my Libra traits and I have become more of a scorpion / arian in nature!

astrologer50 · #14 11-01-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potion

Thanks for the reply astrologer50 - I posted this some time ago. Originally I was interested in learning about my cacapity for wealth rather than how I would go about earning it but I am also interested in that as well.

Looking at my chart you would think I would earn my money from 6th house matters like hygiene, diet and health. Or working for / being of service to other people. This is not me at all though. [ruler of MC Saturn posited in 5th house of *self employment* Cappi MC is great at organising, management and very shrewd in business, only challenge to saturn is square to Neptune]

I run / own multiple businesses, have many business partners and my day to day is balanced between 'being the boss' and directing co-workers and also undertaking technical tasks such as data analysis and programming. I also spend a lot of time directing the marketing activities for various companies.
[yep, very cappi]

I still don't know exactly how to relate my chart to my wealth potential and career as described above but I have come to these conclusions at least:
>Workaholic - 6th house stellium?
>Technical focus - 6th house lord mercury in virgo, 10th house lord saturn in virgo,[but you're missing the house position?] uranus aspecting 10th house lord [virgo ruler of 6th in 6th suggests you can worry over co-workers, employees. pluto in 6th conj 7th cusp can suggest 'where you can power/control' and be seen as workaholic]

I think your own doubts and restlessness and procrastinations are probably your downfall. Libra has problems making decisions at the best of times and some can even be crippled by having to make decisions, just hope you are not one of them.

The crazy thing is I am the complete opposite of this. Confident, enthusiatic and quick to charge ahead and make decisions. Something in my chart has messed with my Libra traits and I have become more of a scorpion / arian in nature!

just for future reference, please post the 'whole chart' including aspect grid, as there is much information (we astrologers) can derive from that...

Well done, you are exactly describing your secondary progressions.

progressed planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=266189&postcount=8

progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”
http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm
solar arcs & secondary progressions
http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

bardevolved · #15 11-01-2011, 11:32 AM

@potion

Well-said : I ve my natal mars 2nd lord is in 6th house leo, and i m an work-holic when it comes to my intrest area, a stellium of planets ( sun, saturn,mercury ( 29 degree ), pluto (23 ) and jupiter in libra 8th house makes me balanced when it comes to judgement. Indeed i have never been confused about decesion-making, and even i found out this trait among some librans who are fine decesion makers, Lot of high-rank individuals in Army are librans. uranus being my ascd lord is very near to MC ( 6 degree ) which means a person wants to be his own boss. Neptune in the later degrees of 10th house ...seems to fantasise about an ideal glamorous job. I ve got into some projects to become wealthy but yet nothing has come up in a solid way.

potion · #16 11-01-2011, 08:19 PM

@astrologer50

Thanks for your comments!

[ruler of MC Saturn posited in 5th house of *self employment*

I never would have linked the 5th house to self-employment. When I think of 5th house careers I tend to think of creative pursuits like the arts, acting, design, music etc. + working with children + speculative pursuits like investment, sharebroking etc. Do you mind if I ask how you come up with that association?

@bardevolved

With your ascendent lord Uranus conjunct your MC, is your career / interest area in any way linked to technology? I only ask as my business interests are mostly technology based and I wonder if it is the influence of my 10th house lord and my MC tightly sextiling Uranus.

bardevolved · #17 11-01-2011, 09:32 PM

@potion..............

Yeah you are right....I am into a telecom company working in logistics since a long time....this is ajob....

I run a website www.freeblogin.com.....

Br/Dipti

potion · #18 11-01-2011, 09:41 PM

I have a few sites set up running Adsense - hard to make decent money that's for sure!

astrologer50 · #19 11-02-2011, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potion

@astrologer50

Thanks for your comments!

[ruler of MC Saturn posited in 5th house of *self employment*

I never would have linked the 5th house to self-employment. When I think of 5th house careers I tend to think of creative pursuits like the arts, acting, design, music etc. + working with children + speculative pursuits like investment, sharebroking etc. Do you mind if I ask how you come up with that association?
[where do you think you would find self employment?]

Ask yourself this, do YOU get pleasure from what you do? as opposed to doing something that gives you a paycheque. I have mars here and for a woman, it can suggest quick in childbirth (which I was) but also I am self employed to. My self employment I view as my (baby) if you like

potion · #20 11-02-2011, 07:44 PM

I'm not sure all self-employed people chose self-employment simply to increase the amount of pleasure they get from their vocation. Although in my case this is true to an extent. Often it can be due to circumstance, financial reasons etc.

Is the ruler of the 10th in the 5th something that you have seen in a lot of self-employed charts?

Just curious that's all.

astrologer50 · #21 11-02-2011, 08:37 PM

no I have ruler of MC Saggi and Jupiter in 8th but mars in gemini 5th......house that's important indicator..

astro11 · #22 07-22-2012, 01:39 PM

I recently did a quantitative study of the Astronumerology of Billionaires. You can find it at http://www.astronumerologywisdom.com...and-money.html. The top aspects are Venus-Neptune and Mercury-Mars.

oren19 · #23 07-30-2012, 11:03 AM

Can anyone with some good chart reading ability tell me what my problem is ? I seem to be going no where in life. People tell me I'm a good/great artist, I write good/great songs, but it seems like there is just something stopping any progress with meeting up with the right folks. ( So true about Libra not liking to be alone, and it seems to be in my case also to NOT being able to make anything of myself alone ). Sometimes I think it's lack of ambition, other times I think I'm not getting a good opportunity. I'm on ssi, I have bi-polar, and have had anxiety since I was 12 yrs. old. I'm thinking that when that crazy Uranus crossed over my natal sun at such a young age ( I believe from about when I was from 7 to 12 yrs. of age ) that really goofed it up for me & brought on all this anxiety & bi-polar. Can anyone see any good in this chart, that would bring on a better future ? I used to be into astrology a lot in my teens & early 20's, I know it's horrible having the moon in conjunction with Uranus, but I thought hmmmm ok but seeing that this conjunction is trine to Jupiter rizing in Sag.,..things will be ok. Not! I've turned to drugs, I should of been dead 3 times from OD'ing on H. Is it that horrid Saturn being there in my first house ? Am I destined to be a starving artist ? Any knowledge would sure be appreciated. Thanks

astro11 · #24 07-30-2012, 12:28 PM

Oren, from looking at your chart, you have 9 of the aspects that were found to be significant for ability to make money and the ruler of your second house Saturn makes 7 aspects to other planets and a trine to the NN. You have really good money making potential so I wouldn't say you have bad money karma. Your issue seems to be more about staying motivated and persisting despite obstacles. Success will come but you need to keep a good attitude of faith and work really hard. The chart is potential, not fate.

Neptune is not connected with your MC in any way (Venus your MC ruler doesn't aspect it and Neptune doesn't directly contact the MC degree). Many times if people are playing music professionally in their career Neptune makes some sort of contact. I am not saying that because you don't have a Neptune connection you shouldn't pursue a career in music, but that could be why you are facing so many challenges getting noticed in the industry. In addition with 2 malefic planets like Mars and Saturn tightly squaring your MC degree at 13 libra, career challenges are definitely to be expected. This is why you have to be really persistent and dedicated in following your goals. Saturn will give you the rewards due to you, not by luck or chance but by good old fashioned hard work.

oren19 · #25 07-30-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by astro11

Oren, from looking at your chart, you have 9 of the aspects that were found to be significant for ability to make money and the ruler of your second house Saturn makes 7 aspects to other planets and a trine to the NN. You have really good money making potential so I wouldn't say you have bad money karma. Your issue seems to be more about staying motivated and persisting despite obstacles. Success will come but you need to keep a good attitude of faith and work really hard. The chart is potential, not fate.

Neptune is not connected with your MC in any way (Venus your MC ruler doesn't aspect it and Neptune doesn't directly contact the MC degree). Many times if people are playing music professionally in their career Neptune makes some sort of contact. I am not saying that because you don't have a Neptune connection you shouldn't pursue a career in music, but that could be why you are facing so many challenges getting noticed in the industry. In addition with 2 malefic planets like Mars and Saturn tightly squaring your MC degree at 13 libra, career challenges are definitely to be expected. This is why you have to be really persistent and dedicated in following your goals. Saturn will give you the rewards due to you, not by luck or chance but by good old fashioned hard work.

Why thank you for that info Samantha, without that Neptune connection I think I'll focus more on my art. I've been hoping on someone to come along and get one of my songs published for years now, and it's so hard to get anywhere with music ( especially rock & roll ) and because of that dream, I kind of put the art thing on the side,...time to go back to my first love.

Thank you again, and you have a GREAT day there Samantha.