*Planets In Signs They Rule*

[Rebel Uranian]

The 29th degree is actually usually considered to be a very strong point for the influence of the planet but not usually the characteristics of the sign. Some consider it to strengthen the characteristics of the sign (such as the current Wikipedia page and I think Linda Goodman) but some consider it to have more of the characteristics of the next sign. As the Sun is domiciled in Leo and peregrine in Virgo w/o other dignity involved, I'm pretty sure the influence of your Leo Sun is still plenty functional. The last sentence is in reality a theory with good evidence but no proof that I mostly came up with for my own sake, to be honest.

[Moog]

Originally Posted by venuschild.EarthGoddess

Yes, same here. I don't see many charts all at with that many domiciles, and fewer with no fire in the chart like mine. Its seems beneficial now but growing up and still to this day im often regarded as odd. Haha. High five to venus in taurus! (^_^)

Other one... Libra.

Can I still have the high five though?

[Gogo91]

Originally Posted by Moog

Other one... Libra.

Can I still have the high five though?

You can have a hive five from my Libra in Venus.

I wish Mercury doesn't follow the 1 planet away. Mine is in detriment. And the thing is Virgo in Jupiter and Sagittarius in Mercury.

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Gogo91

You can have a hive five from my Libra in Venus.

I wish Mercury doesn't follow the 1 planet away. Mine is in detriment. And the thing is Virgo in Jupiter and Sagittarius in Mercury.

Do they aspect each other? They might be in mutual reception.

*high five!*

[student4life]

It will strengthen the natural attributes of that planet in it's own sign, but you have to also take into account the degree it is, what house it is in, and what aspects it is making to other planets.

[VenusInTaurus]

I have Venus in Taurus, Mars in Aries, Saturn in Aquarius and Pluto in Scorpio. Dignities are powerful. I feel that having Planets in dignities makes you more aware of yourself and the Planets energies.

[m0ney*p0wer*re$pect]

Originally Posted by VenusInTaurus

I have Venus in Taurus, Mars in Aries, Saturn in Aquarius and Pluto in Scorpio. Dignities are powerful. I feel that having Planets in dignities makes you more aware of yourself and the Planets energies.

I the awareness isn't the thing, cuz I have detriment planets and I'm very aware of their energy, it's more of expression, the way the energies show themselves might differ from what the planet is used to

[VenusInTaurus]

I do not view detriments as negative. They are very powerful positions but not negative. I have my Moon in Capricorn. The Planet is positioned in the same polarity and the same mode. In reality the Planet is comfortable there. Less so than in other more "friendly" placements but still feels at home. IMO

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by venuschild.EarthGoddess

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows or can shed some input or opinions about signs in ruling planets, whether its you or someone you know.

For instance, my moon, mercury, venus, saturn, and pluto are all in their respective ruling planets. I'm wondering if this has any bearing on me personality/psychologically/relationship-to-other people wise.

I think it's pretty interesting yet odd that I have that many planets in the signs they rule, since it's not very common. I'd like to hear from anyone else with 3 or more planets in respective signs that they rule, or anyone you know with this odd arrangement...

How (if at all) does this impact one's life?

I guess you mean that you have planets in their natural signs.

I have Sun in Leo and Venus in Libra for instance....... Can you post your chart, anonymously of course....So you have your Moon in Cancer, Venus in Taurus or Libra, Mercury in Gemin or Virgo, Saturn in Capricorn and Pluto in Scorpio...wow!!! I think planets in their natural houses are also significant. I have Mercury in the 6th for instance and with the old ruler Mars in 8th house......

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by m0ney*p0wer*re$pect

I the awareness isn't the thing, cuz I have detriment planets and I'm very aware of their energy, it's more of expression, the way the energies show themselves might differ from what the planet is used to

I dont even use the terms detriment or debility or whatever. That is very old school and misleading.. I have Mars in Libra for instance which makes me more graceful and peaceful, mediator and a promoter of accord and fair play , especially in legal matters.... rather than the brash and clumsy Mars in Aries which is reckless and often risk taking, not to mention violent, although brave and pioneering I grant you. ..

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by VenusInTaurus

I have Venus in Taurus, Mars in Aries, Saturn in Aquarius and Pluto in Scorpio. Dignities are powerful. I feel that having Planets in dignities makes you more aware of yourself and the Planets energies.

I agree that the natural placements express themselves more easily whether negative or positive but I dont wear Saturn in Aquarius.....The ruler is Uranus and Saturn belongs with Capricorn....Saturn is the conservative upholder of the rules and regulations, proper order and Aquarius is the rebel, the breaker of rules and regulations and chaos and upheavals in general. Saturn/Capricorn deals with the past and Aquarius/Uranus with the future.

[may28gemini]

I don't agree with the assessment that having more planets in dignity is beneficial but I do agree that native will feel more "at home" with that planet.

I think it all depends on the general nature of the planet that is in dignity. If Venus (lesser benefic), is in her domicile of Taurus or Libra, she's going to have a ball drawing up a luxurious bubble bath and then getting dressed up in designer clothing. Jupiter (greater benefic) in his home of Sagittarius can basically say and do whatever he wants and still lives to see tomorrow (that's PURE luck) and Pisces will just basically pardon everyone for trespasses thereby upping his good karma. Sun (benefic) in Leo dignity creates an encouraging, warm, courageous, albeit egotistical presence.

However, if malefics are in their domicile, it creates MORE malefic energy. Ever wonder why Aries Mars (lesser malefic) is so crazy and likes setting the roof on fire when they don't get their way (aside from the blasted infamous Aries selfishness)? Taurus Mars is detriment but it will be calm about nearly everything... until it can't take it anymore and detonates. Which is worse? A planet that erupts all the time or a planet that erupts once in a while? Capricorn Saturn is dignity but cutthroat mofos. Then you get detriment Cancer Saturn which gets victimized. Which is really better?
Fallen Libra Pluto (malefic) is interested in building bridges with their enemies rather than fluidly resorting to control/manipulation that corrupt and vengeful Scorpio Pluto in dignity can easily resort to.

The logic is, if a benefic is in their dignity, it creates more beneficial influences. That logic is easily applied to malefics in their dignity creates more malefic influences.

[m0ney*p0wer*re$pect]

Originally Posted by may28gemini

I don't agree with the assessment that having more planets in dignity is beneficial but I do agree that native will feel more "at home" with that planet.

I think it all depends on the general nature of the planet that is in dignity. If Venus (lesser benefic), is in her domicile of Taurus or Libra, she's going to have a ball drawing up a luxurious bubble bath and then getting dressed up in designer clothing. Jupiter (greater benefic) in his home of Sagittarius can basically say and do whatever he wants and still lives to see tomorrow (that's PURE luck) and Pisces will just basically pardon everyone for trespasses thereby upping his good karma. Sun (benefic) in Leo dignity creates an encouraging, warm, courageous, albeit egotistical presence.

However, if malefics are in their domicile, it creates MORE malefic energy. Ever wonder why Aries Mars (lesser malefic) is so crazy and likes setting the roof on fire when they don't get their way (aside from the blasted infamous Aries selfishness)? Taurus Mars is detriment but it will be calm about nearly everything... until it can't take it anymore and detonates. Which is worse? A planet that erupts all the time or a planet that erupts once in a while? Capricorn Saturn is dignity but cutthroat mofos. Then you get detriment Cancer Saturn which gets victimized. Which is really better?
Fallen Libra Pluto (malefic) is interested in building bridges with their enemies rather than fluidly resorting to control/manipulation that corrupt and vengeful Scorpio Pluto in dignity can easily resort to.

The logic is, if a benefic is in their dignity, it creates more beneficial influences. That logic is easily applied to malefics in their dignity creates more malefic influences.

I think that logic is skewed b/c you are looking at one side of the planets. Like Pluto in Scorpio is at home there simply b/c the need to change and break free of the subconscious destructive forces that control us. I think it's better to break free from a bad relationship rather than stay like libra and Taurus sometimes do n on top of that I think taurus is the detriment for Pluto, not libra and Taurus is more fitting because pluto is about letting go and Taurus is symbolized by holding on


Second, mars in Aries is at home not just for violence but for the force one uses when they go after what they want. Taurus sometimes can get stuck in habits in mars and te enegy goes towards physical pleasures which can prove to be destructive. Mars is how ou Stan on your own, and in Aries it does that just fine


And saturn in Capricorn is at home because its not just about ruthless behavior, but about building something long term and worthwhile which takes hard work and dedication. In cancer, I see someone getting far too frustrated about long term results


To me a host of domicile planets makes someone alot more honest and truthful. The planets are relaxed there and have little worry about other things.

Mars in libra might worry about being wrong so that stifles action

Saturn in cancer may worry about the future which stifles hard work

Pisces mercury daydreams too much and sacrifices the details of everyday living

Pluto in Taurus worries too much about security to let go

Venus in Scorpio worries too much about the negatives f a relationship to fully enjoy one

Sun in Aquarius may worry too much about being different and stifles their own individualism


Just my take

[may28gemini]

Originally Posted by m0ney*p0wer*re$pect

I think that logic is skewed b/c you are looking at one side of the planets. Like Pluto in Scorpio is at home there simply b/c the need to change and break free of the subconscious destructive forces that control us. I think it's better to break free from a bad irelationship rather than stay like libra and Taurus sometimes do n on top of that I think taurus is the detriment for Pluto, not libra and Taurus is more fitting because pluto is about letting go and Taurus is symbolized by holding on


Second, mars in Aries is at home not just for violence but for the force one uses when they go after what they want. Taurus sometimes can get stuck in habits in mars and te enegy goes towards physical pleasures which can prove to be destructive. Mars is how ou Stan on your own, and in Aries it does that just fine


And saturn in Capricorn is at home because its not just about ruthless behavior, but about building something long term and worthwhile which takes hard work and dedication. In cancer, I see someone getting far too frustrated about long term results


To me a host of domicile planets makes someone alot more honest and truthful. The planets are relaxed there and have little worry about other things.

Mars in libra might worry about being wrong so that stifles action

Saturn in cancer may worry about the future which stifles hard work

Pisces mercury daydreams too much and sacrifices the details of everyday living

Pluto in Taurus worries too much about security to let go

Venus in Scorpio worries too much about the negatives f a relationship to fully enjoy one

Sun in Aquarius may worry too much about being different and stifles their own individualism


Just my take

I think it's skewed to think anything in dignity means it's "beneficial." All the signs in the planets have their fine points and drawbacks however when you get a malefic planet in their home sign, you get more of that malefic energy.

Both Taurus and Scorpio are concerned with possession. Taurus is into possessing what's earned by them, Scorpio concerned about possession what they feel belongs to them. Tell me, how is it that Scorpio can let go more easily than Taurus? Taurus Mars and Taurus Pluto maybe in detriment but they lessen the malefic effects simply because they have energy that goes against what that malefic planet wants to do.

I don't have time to breakdown every argument you put because I'm at work now. My point still stands that planets in their dignity signs feel at home with whatever energy the planet naturally is comfortable with. If the planet is comfortable acting as a benefic - they will further act that way in their domicile. If a planet likes causing problems then causing problems will be supported in it's homebase sign. And for Mercury- he loves being neutral so he will stay comfortable being neutral in his Gemini and Virgo home.

[tsmall]

Originally Posted by may28gemini

I think it's skewed to think anything in dignity means it's "beneficial." All the signs in the planets have their fine points and drawbacks however when you get a malefic planet in their home sign, you get more of that malefic energy.

I think if you are really going to look at dignity and debility (something most modern astrologers choose not to do) you need to understand the nature of the planets, the nature of the signs, and the nature of the terms dignity, malefic, and benefic. A planet, well dignified, will be better able to express the postitive traits of that planet as opposed to the negative.

Originally Posted by may28gemini

Both Taurus and Scorpio are concerned with possession. Taurus is into possessing what's earned by them, Scorpio concerned about possession what they feel belongs to them. Tell me, how is it that Scorpio can let go more easily than Taurus? Taurus Mars and Taurus Pluto maybe in detriment but they lessen the malefic effects simply because they have energy that goes against what that malefic planet wants to do.

Depending on which house Taurus occupies in the chart, the sect of the chart, the condition of Venus, and the aspects of Mars, a Taurus Mars will often be much worse for the native than an Aries Mars. Especially if it's a day chart and Taurus is on the cusp of a house above the ASC/DSC axis, Venus is also in Aries, and Jupiter is not in partile trine to Mars. Why? Because Mars can be a nightmare for the native, particularly since Mars won't just represent the "I do/act" for the native, but also people and things that the native will encounter his entire life.

Taurus and Scorpio are not just "concerned with posession." There is a wealth more information about them than just that. Taurus is an earth sign, Scorpio a water sign, and Mars just happens to be the nighttime triplicity ruler of all the water signs...and that is part of why Mars is actually better for the native in Scorpio than in Aries (we want the malefics to be as controlled as possible. Mars, a nocturnal planet, does better in a feminine water sign than in a masculine fire sign...but he does well there because he is, as you say, "at home.") Mars is still a malefic, so we look for ways to tame that energy...and dignity is the best way to do so...

[m0ney*p0wer*re$pect]

Originally Posted by may28gemini

I think it's skewed to think anything in dignity means it's "beneficial." All the signs in the planets have their fine points and drawbacks however when you get a malefic planet in their home sign, you get more of that malefic energy.

Both Taurus and Scorpio are concerned with possession. Taurus is into possessing what's earned by them, Scorpio concerned about possession what they feel belongs to them. Tell me, how is it that Scorpio can let go more easily than Taurus? Taurus Mars and Taurus Pluto maybe in detriment but they lessen the malefic effects simply because they have energy that goes against what that malefic planet wants to do.

I don't have time to breakdown every argument you put because I'm at work now. My point still stands that planets in their dignity signs feel at home with whatever energy the planet naturally is comfortable with. If the planet is comfortable acting as a benefic - they will further act that way in their domicile. If a planet likes causing problems then causing problems will be supported in it's homebase sign. And for Mercury- he loves being neutral so he will stay comfortable being neutral in his Gemini and Virgo home.

I would love to see your argument. Maybe I phrased my response wrong but from what I've read it tells me about how the sin Scorpio is associated with cutting ties and letting go. I think all fixed signs are about holding on and I think Scorpio holds on to emotions hence the themes of revenge and obsession. Ive been around ppl with a mars in Taurus and they have problems letting go of habits that please them. Even if it's destructive thu hold on because it pleases them. I've sen mars in Scorpio ppl do it to but it's been more pronounced in Taurus


To me astrology is just a matter of opinions. You can say one thing and use all the reader h you've done to prove your point but at the end of the day it's. Itching more than abstract notions. It's not concrete it's just theories. Regardless, I think that domicile planets act more freely than detriment planets. Even if it's malific. And u say mars is better in Scorpio because it's controlled? I doubt that. It's just more deceiving and cuts you behind the scenes with subtle remarks and a hawk like watch over the one they hate. It holds Martian energy in and releases it in a way slick, subtle and manipulative manner. Capricorn mars is more controlled than a Scorpio mars. Just my opinion and I think that mars does great in Aries , maybe for short term things but you can't deny the potency of it.


And as far as it bei maelfic, what about the self destructive themes in the water signs, especially Scorpio and Pisces. How is that a better placement when Scorpio mars can be extremely violent, abusive, self destructive and outright cruel? That just goes backto a matter of opinions.

[Sandra0406]

Planets in their car (Chariots) the planets are in their domicile, exaltation or term. For such planets are said to rejoice in these places even though they are under the Sunbeams. Benefic increases the good things, and malefic becomes a benefic, Antiochus says.

[tsmall]

Originally Posted by m0ney*p0wer*re$pect

To me astrology is just a matter of opinions. You can say one thing and use all the reader h you've done to prove your point but at the end of the day it's. Itching more than abstract notions. It's not concrete it's just theories. Regardless, I think that domicile planets act more freely than detriment planets. Even if it's malific. And u say mars is better in Scorpio because it's controlled? I doubt that. It's just more deceiving and cuts you behind the scenes with subtle remarks and a hawk like watch over the one they hate. It holds Martian energy in and releases it in a way slick, subtle and manipulative manner. Capricorn mars is more controlled than a Scorpio mars. Just my opinion and I think that mars does great in Aries , maybe for short term things but you can't deny the potency of it.


And as far as it bei maelfic, what about the self destructive themes in the water signs, especially Scorpio and Pisces. How is that a better placement when Scorpio mars can be extremely violent, abusive, self destructive and outright cruel? That just goes backto a matter of opinions.

You are right, in some ways it comes down to opinions, and it also comes down to what type of astrology you want to look at. Some of what you are describing, especially about the water signs, are interpretations of the signs themselves, and not the planets either in them or that in some way rule them.

Mars in Scorpio as a rule will work better for the native, as opposed to working against him. Doesn't mean it won't make him a jerk. The difficulty of trying to generalize about planets in any sign is that the aspects, the houses, the condition of the other planets...there is so much that will influence how a planet manifests that generalizations can just get tossed out the window.

I think that domicile planets tend to express their energy more comfortably. I've said it before, but being in domicile is like being at home with your feet up on the ottoman...you know where everything is, you can let the laundry go undone if you want, paint the place anyway you like. Detriment is like living with your mother in law who hates you, or in a homeless shelter where you have to rely on the kindness of someone else for everthing...

[m0ney*p0wer*re$pect]

Originally Posted by tsmall

You are right, in some ways it comes down to opinions, and it also comes down to what type of astrology you want to look at. Some of what you are describing, especially about the water signs, are interpretations of the signs themselves, and not the planets either in them or that in some way rule them.

Mars in Scorpio as a rule will work better for the native, as opposed to working against him. Doesn't mean it won't make him a jerk. The difficulty of trying to generalize about planets in any sign is that the aspects, the houses, the condition of the other planets...there is so much that will influence how a planet manifests that generalizations can just get tossed out the window.

I think that domicile planets tend to express their energy more comfortably. I've said it before, but being in domicile is like being at home with your feet up on the ottoman...you know where everything is, you can let the laundry go undone if you want, paint the place anyway you like. Detriment is like living with your mother in law who hates you, or in a homeless shelter where you have to rely on the kindness of someone else for everthing...

Yea that's what I meant to say is that it gets expressed more comfortably n yes it's difficult for detriment planets to express certain energy I have quiete a few detriments in my chart

[Skywomb]

This is basically one of the most interesting little topics I've been really curious about...
Since I got:
Moon in Cancer (right on my Descendant by the way, conjunct my south node)
Uranus and Saturn in Capricorn/Aquarius (1st house, Uranus conjunct Ascendant)
Venus in Libra (10th house)
Mars and Pluto in Scoprio (conjunct, and widely conjunct my Sun at 1degree Sag. Same triple-conjunction Nero had..thank God I did not have the rest of his chart)

At any rate (well obviously) having lots of planets in their ruling signs or otherwise "stongly placed" doesn't mean you are gonna have a great life! I can tell you that much myself... And looked at some of my stressfully aspected planets, which have given some nice hints.

Though I do feel enormous potential, and I don't just mean in a Scorpio/Capricorn sorta driven way, if you dig... but overall... in many ways. I really often think I could be anything, excell at anything, and want to.
I've never ever had a made up mind as what I should become professionally for one, and there are so many things I'd like to become...yet impossible to do it all.

At any rate, only FYI , on WAIS-IV (IQ-test) I scored about 120 (won't give you the exact number).

But anyhow, you know any professional astrologers who've studied this in more of an all-encompassing nature and extracted some tidbits as to what lots of planets in their own signs etc mean in general?

Originally Posted by m0ney*p0wer*re$pect

Yea that's what I meant to say is that it gets expressed more comfortably n yes it's difficult for detriment planets to express certain energy I have quiete a few detriments in my chart

My Mercury in my 12th house in Sag. is a b*tch, so yeah AFAIK. Now I have a weird chart anyway, but still. (And (tangental me here) what element planets are placed in I feel to be extremely useful, practical information if nothing else, in tons of areas of astrology.)


Well gotta run...
/Skywomb

[Skywomb]

Originally Posted by tsmall

You are right, in some ways it comes down to opinions, and it also comes down to what type of astrology you want to look at. [...]

Bit off-topic, but.. I'd rather say "it all comes down to the people you want to look at" etc. Because astrology is the study of...people. (I myself doubt my "belief" in astrology, but true or false it's still full of information about people!)
Thanks for some interesting posts.

Sadly (for the discussion) I have tons of planets in their ruling signs.
I can say however that my friend, my mother and myself...with Mars in Scorpio all of us. I'm the only one that almost always manages to channel (or at least withhold my anger) in more productive ways than them to say the least.
My chart is so much more earth/water than theirs, to cut it short.
But it took a long time, I've been some pain in the *** when I was younger (hahaha I'm only 20 now, my friend 26).
Anyway I've really grown to like this pulsating feeling of emotions, I've found only scorpionic people can really understand (odd odd odd so many of them I've met).
Think it's much of a shame that people can't bare some bites! really because every scorpionic person I've met is truly in their heart despite what they've been, the most empathic people (that can also do stuff in the world!).

Excuse my rambling (but ya'll started talking about Mars in Scorpio and such in an unholy fashion so! ). Water has taken me.

[tsmall]

Originally Posted by Skywomb

Bit off-topic, but.. I'd rather say "it all comes down to the people you want to look at" etc. Because astrology is the study of...people. (I myself doubt my "belief" in astrology, but true or false it's still full of information about people!)
Thanks for some interesting posts.

Sadly (for the discussion) I have tons of planets in their ruling signs.
I can say however that my friend, my mother and myself...with Mars in Scorpio all of us. I'm the only one that almost always manages to channel (or at least withhold my anger) in more productive ways than them to say the least.
My chart is so much more earth/water than theirs, to cut it short.
But it took a long time, I've been some pain in the *** when I was younger (hahaha I'm only 20 now, my friend 26).
Anyway I've really grown to like this pulsating feeling of emotions, I've found only scorpionic people can really understand (odd odd odd so many of them I've met).
Think it's much of a shame that people can't bare some bites! really because every scorpionic person I've met is truly in their heart despite what they've been, the most empathic people (that can also do stuff in the world!).

Excuse my rambling (but ya'll started talking about Mars in Scorpio and such in an unholy fashion so! ). Water has taken me.

Well, I meant if you wanted to look at more modern or traditional astrology.

I've had a bit of experience with Scorpios too, and while I don't judge all based on a few, these are not...empathic, lol. Clueless to others' feelings might be more accurate, and not just in a way that means they can be unintentionally hurtful. They have also been hurt by others because they have a hard time seeing below the surface. That said, they don't have Mars in Scorpio.

I like that you have shared your experiences with Mars in his home sign, and as always still say though that it takes the enitre chart.

[Claire19]

You mean planets in signs they rule. They are stronger there of course.
If you can attach your chart we can see how many you actually have.
The aspects to these planets give the whole story and can be modified by all that.

I have Sun in Leo and Venus in Libra. All natural signs as we say.

I have Mercury in the 6th house and Mars in the 8th house, their natural house.

[Skywomb]

Originally Posted by tsmall

Well, I meant if you wanted to look at more modern or traditional astrology.

I've had a bit of experience with Scorpios too, and while I don't judge all based on a few, these are not...empathic, lol. Clueless to others' feelings might be more accurate, and not just in a way that means they can be unintentionally hurtful. They have also been hurt by others because they have a hard time seeing below the surface. That said, they don't have Mars in Scorpio.

I like that you have shared your experiences with Mars in his home sign, and as always still say though that it takes the enitre chart.

Well, I'm sure they've got some Leo or such that makes that happen
But seriously, I like how Stephen Arroyo (I think) put it in regards to Scorpio-empathy and such...it can be very hard for people to percieve it as empathy ..to put it short.
Just some days ago, a friend had a real rough time and I really did care about him (thank Lucifer he's a Scorpio Rising)...needless to say I told him with some quite big exclamation marks around my head to stop with <his-specific-anxiety/paranoia> along with some more milder comforting words. From experience I can get why such an act often would be interpreted in other ways.
I dig. ....and thanks!

Oh but look, I'm not off-topic, attaching my Jesus-chart with 6 planets in their ruling signs right now: