Re: Moon conjunct Saturn and deaths in solar return chart
There have been a lot of questions about death predictions recently. I wonder why?
Noel Tyl says that there is no "death aspect" or "death point" in a horoscope--no combination of planets, points, transits or arcs that point to death.
We can look at circumstances and conditions in a person's life around the time someone important to them dies, but when we identify the potential for a loss, a time of confusion, the breaking of a relationship--whatever we find--we can't say for certain that a literal death will occur. A metaphorical break could also be indicated. We can't say that a specific person is probably going to die on a particular day.
This can seem strange when we can look to astrology for so many insights, keys, clues and predictions, but if we think a bit more deeply, perhaps it's not so hard to understand. What we can find in charts are experiences of ending or breaking relationships and how they affect the person who goes through them. Children who lose a parent or parents, for example, frequently have signs of wounding or loss in their charts, along with indications of where and how they might find healing. But siblings don't always have the same signs. Everyone experiences trauma and loss differently.
We can't find our own death in our own charts because we don't die. Our deaths happen to other people, but we continue on in some way. The horoscope continues! There are many, many examples of famous people who have lived remarkable lives and died. When interest in them re-emerges later, we can usually find indications of that in their natal charts.
I think one of the most significant differences between Saturn and Pluto is that Saturn is concerned with mundane life. Saturn teaches us how to live here and now--what it takes to live successfully, and how to have the wisdom that goes along with it. Saturn works to help us preserve our lives, be safe, follow the rules, avoid unnecessary risks, plan, be prudent and responsible. Pluto, on the other hand, isn't concerned about these things because, recognizing that our souls are immortal, Pluto is dedicated to our transformation from mortal to immortal beings. Pluto is concerned with transcendence.
"You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." (Mark Twain)