Neptune in Capricorn generation entering the workplace

[eviltwin]

As the Neptune in Capricorn generation starts to enter the workforce, it appears that we are seeing a lot more emphasis on deriving "meaning" at work, and not just earning money.

I don't know if that is an accurate statement to make, but watch this video and tell me what you think. It appears to me that in the coming years, organizations are slowly going to wake up and focus on making life at work more meaningful, as a ways of motivating employees to perform at their best...

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What do you think? Is this an emerging trend, or is it too early to tell? Is this an accurate interpretation of Neptune in Capricorn?

Also: do you know anyone with Neptune in Capricorn? How do their views on work reflect this notion, compared to previous generations? How have you seen Neptune in Capricorn in the various houses function?

[Arian Maverick]

As a member of the Neptune in Capricorn generation who is preparing to enter the workforce, I feel I am "qualified" to answer this question. I've communicated with other members of this generation through the forums, so I can validate that my personal experience is not unusual.

As the Neptune in Capricorn generation starts to enter the workforce, it appears that we are seeing a lot more emphasis on deriving "meaning" at work, and not just earning money.

Absolutely, but I must add the caveat that this trait is more pronounced in some young people than others. I am an Idealist, a Myers-Briggs INFP type, so my work must reflect my values. I believe I am incapable of working in the corporate world, as it currently is constructed--and if I do, I must work for an organization whose mission includes community outreach and/or the promotion of environmental sustainability. This is non-negotiable. As I wrote in a personal message to another Neptune in Capricorn forum member last night, "I tend to be openly defiant of others' expectations for me to 'play the game.' I am ambitious, yes--but I am not inauthentic. I rather would fail in others' eyes than defy my personal values." I am willing to forgo many conveniences and comforts of modern life to achieve personal fulfillment through my career.

Many of my peers are idealistic, yes, but they pursue what they believe will be lucrative career paths. This is fine, but I sense this is the primary consideration for many of them.

I don't know if that is an accurate statement to make, but watch this video and tell me what you think. It appears to me that in the coming years, organizations are slowly going to wake up and focus on making life at work more meaningful, as a ways of motivating employees to perform at their best...

RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us

What do you think? Is this an emerging trend, or is it too early to tell? Is this an accurate interpretation of Neptune in Capricorn?

I will watch this video upon the completion of this post, but I do not wish for the information and views expressed within to alter the ideas I express here.

I agree wholly with your assessment that "in the coming years, organizations are slowly going to wake up and focus on making life at work more meaningful, as a ways of motivating employees to perform at their best." I cannot substantiate this claim, but I know it will happen because members of my generation will make it happen.

When I write about Neptune in Capricorn--particularly about the Saturn-Neptune conjunction, the influence under which I was born--I often use the phrase "practical idealism." Make no mistake; for all of the idealism we may express, we are eminently practical. We will institute the business practices you describe because treating employees well and motivating them to perform their best is good for business! You hire and retain the best employees, and these employees are most efficient when they are happy and in good health. They do not simply "clock in" and "clock out." They contribute more to the company when they feel their work matters. It's as simple as that.

Also: do you know anyone with Neptune in Capricorn? How do their views on work reflect this notion, compared to previous generations?

Obviously, I was not alive when my parents' generation came of age, so it is difficult for me to make this comparison. I feel that they paved the way for us to do this work, however.

How have you seen Neptune in Capricorn in the various houses function?

I'm uncertain if my natal Neptune has domain in my tenth house or my eleventh house because in my rectified natal chart, it's on the cusp of the eleventh house in the Placidus house system. Honestly, I feel its influence in both houses. Neptune in the tenth house reflects that my highest aspirations include much of the idealism with which Neptune is associated. Neptune in the eleventh house reflects my desire to work with nonprofit and other charitable organizations. I have a great sense of community and interact with varied groups of people through activism. I'm interested in public service.

Arian Maverick

[eviltwin]

Hey Arian,

Yeah I totally get what you're saying. I'm part of the Neptune in Cap gen too, btw (1986 born) :-)

It's an issue that I definitely feel pretty strongly in my own life, and my ears perked up when I saw that video, because it seemed to mirror exactly my way of thinking. So I took an educated guess that Neptune in Cap was causing this; which would mean that in fact it is a generational influence that is going to reshape our largest institutions... including big business! It feels reassuring that it's not just something I am going through, because it implies that there will likely be desire to undertake a major effort in restructuring the business world, and reunite making money with making meaning.

I have my singleton Neptune at the end of my first house, so I interpret it as being in the second. I think because of this (second house being an earth house, and singleton planets becoming a salient feature of a chart), the issue is somewhat magnified for me. My baseline feeling is that there needs to be a good why in addition to 'making a good living,' when it comes to work. I get the feeling that when a person has a profound 'why,' they are much more likely to freely release greater amounts of creative energy, and deliver a much higher quality of work.

Anyone have any experience of how Neptune in Capricorn works in the various houses? It'd be interesting to also see what people have found in their experience.

[soratothamax]

What is the difference between Virgo in Neptune and Capricorn in Neptune? Both of them are very practical. Anyone have a Neptune in Virgo so I can make a comparison?

[may28gemini]

I think Capricorn is more acutely ambitious than Virgo. Cap Neptune is going to be a more dry, cut-throat, and matter-of-fact. Forget about the "feel" of anything that goes with Neptune, esp. the arts. Cap Neptune is more interested in what they can cash in for money and status of the here and now. Remember, Cap isn't about meaning in the philosophical sense, that's Sagittarius. Cap is only interested in "meaning" on the practical/useful level to apply to current situation.

If anyone wants to talk about the philosophical meaning of work and how it translates, talk to people of the Sagittarius Neptune generation or better yet, Libra Neptune generation to see how they've balanced between ideals vs reality.

[soratothamax]

Originally Posted by may28gemini

I think Capricorn is more acutely ambitious than Virgo. Cap Neptune is going to be a more dry, cut-throat, and matter-of-fact. Forget about the "feel" of anything that goes with Neptune, esp. the arts. Cap Neptune is more interested in what they can cash in for money and status of the here and now. Remember, Cap isn't about meaning in the philosophical sense, that's Sagittarius. Cap is only interested in "meaning" on the practical/useful level to apply to current situation.

If anyone wants to talk about the philosophical meaning of work and how it translates, talk to people of the Sagittarius Neptune generation or better yet, Libra Neptune generation to see how they've balanced between ideals vs reality.

So Virgo is more realistic without cashing in. So when it came to art it's realistic, but not with business or industry involved?what would Virgo be like? Pisces being Virgo's opposite, and the new modern ruler, I take it they wouldn't be the most imaginative bunch...

[may28gemini]

LOL I did not say Virgo is interested in cashing in, I said Capricorn.

[may28gemini]

Although Virgo and Capricorn are both earth signs, they're very different. For one, Virgo isn't stingy like Capricorn. Virgo also gives into their whims and a bit too OCD over every little thing. Capricorn doesn't care about the little things, Cap only cares about the big structural stuff like money. Virgo cares about how to obtain things on a strategic and academic level.

As for Virgo in Neptune, I think that generation was more interested in adding structure to beauty and the arts. Virgo likes to create a manual for everything. I bet that was when the paint by numbers kits were first introduced. That screams Virgo in Neptune! Whatever was floating around during that time period- the 50s and 60s, look at the kind of art and trends that was happening. See the aesthetics. Beauty was all over, except it was all repetitive (Virgo loves repeating everything), mainstream (Virgo caters to mainstream everything) beauty was widely promoted through vast communication modes (tv, movies, etc.), there was tremendous pressure to "fit in" and be like everyone else (again, the mainstream thing), overly neat, prim and proper in appearances- everyone had to look stoic/statuesque, fashion patterns were detailed and symmetry was very important, everyone was ragging and nagging on each other (Virgo loves being critical), hairstyles (all 3 of them at the time) had to be perfectly coiffed, etc.

[segurelha]

Exactly. Capricorn Neptune types might have ambitious dreams of their own careers and money making, or alternative be about the dissolution of ambition, due to the economic depression, these types have everything to succeed but they enter the workforce at a time of depression and they never can't get the job they want and strive for. These will push some of them later on, to participate and initiate the dramatic revolutions of the 2020s!

[tautomer]

I am part of this generation as well. I have its effect in a more significant way because I have the saturn/uranus/neptune in capricorn conjunction. With me my saturn is at an exact conjunction with neptune. I most certainly must be able to derive meaning from work. If I can't I can not motivate myself at all and I do absolutely terrible at it. If I can find meaning though, I usually work harder then anyone else.

[kimbermoon]

remember that Neptune can be highly elusive in it's workings, and pays special attention to more ethereal and psychological concerns: it can be distracting, debilitating, diffusive, often making people prone to delusions and unrealistic expectations. In Capricorn, this energy does not function well, because of it's vagueness and I believe that it's message in this sign is about the dissipation and dissolution of the establishment due to increasing political, economic and social changes now underway ..it is the separation between spirituality and the hard facts of reality. By nature Neptune is in search of compassion, understanding and meaningful connections with others, and yes, by that virtue it seems to represent that individuals must find more creative ways of 'earning their way through the system'...once the system collapses and breaks down, how does one find jobs in big business, corporations or industry?


Re: My baseline feeling is that there needs to be a good why in addition to 'making a good living,' when it comes to work. I get the feeling that when a person has a profound 'why,' they are much more likely to freely release greater amounts of creative energy, and deliver a much higher quality of work' I would totally agree.

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Originally Posted by tautomer

I am part of this generation as well. I have its effect in a more significant way because I have the saturn/uranus/neptune in capricorn conjunction.
With me my saturn is at an exact conjunction with neptune.

I most certainly must be able to derive meaning from work.
If I can't I can not motivate myself at all and I do absolutely terrible at it. If I can find meaning though, I usually work harder then anyone else.

My daughter has exactly the same conjunction of saturn/uranus/neptune in her 10th house and your comment sounds so much like her too....

She wandered her way thru school doing just enough to pass the courses she didn't like and excelled at the courses she loved.

She has patience and stamina and an unusually acute imagination...