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Ok Thanks, pierce!  I wanted to PM the apology and thanks: it have to be posted publically, because your PM box said "full to the maximum limit" of messages. I never knew (but realized how lengthy equations can be anyway) the math is complicated to find astrological parts.
02* Taurus 21',
which is the 3rd degree of Taurus.
2º Taurus (32): AN ELECTRICAL STORM. (More Lightning not rain?)
3º Taurus (33): STEPS UP TO A LAWN BLOOMING WITH CLOVER.
Something related to me being in the wrong place and wrong time: whoever wants to be out in high risk of lightning strike?
The metaphor of lost innocence, while savoring the beauty & sweetness of Life, and Clover-Leafs (in 4s) represent good Luck.
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...I don't think I mentioned that by the chart I claim to be that of Yeshua/Jesus... The Part of Faith is 02* Taurus 24'
..It represents "THE TRINITY" .... it's beautiful, isn't it?
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
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...I don't think I mentioned that by the chart I claim to be that of Yeshua/Jesus... The Part of Faith is 02* Taurus 24'
..It represents "THE TRINITY" .... it's beautiful, isn't it?
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ROFL!  I never said such a thing. The beautiful sight in my 11th house in Taurus, holds a special meaning for me. That Aquarian house influences creativity in social situations and interaction with individuals and groups. The house rules general hopes & dreams as well political activity. The 2nd day of Taurus: April 22nd: Earth Day! Respect the earth created by God. I've been an active follower of environmental causes and personally felt the creator gave man a world we should take care of.
Also to consider one house to the right (10th) the Venusian beauty in my 2.5 degrees Aries. Again, the 1-4 degrees Aries is highly significant: the planet Venus, the Mid-heaven (MC) and opposition with Pluto in Libra lying way down in the Imum Coeli (IC).
 Pluto - Asc. + Pluto - Sun: Organization*, Gavel[?], Miracles. I like to know where the "Part of Miracle/Organization" is.
17' 33 Cancer+ 17' 37 Libra - 26' 20 Aquarius. What's missing is one air sign Gemini; and Cancer and Libra are cardinal signs.
What to make of the 17 degree Libra (and adjacent degrees to examine closely) where Pluto occupies the sign of balance in the 4th house representing the father and the sign Cancer identified with parenting, family and community organization:
16º Libra (196): AFTER A STORM, A BOAT LANDING STANDS IN NEED OF RECONSTRUCTION.
17º Libra (197): A RETIRED SEA CAPTAIN WATCHES SHIPS ENTERING AND LEAVING THE HARBOUR.
18º Libra (198): TWO MEN PLACED UNDER ARREST. (I found one message an eye-opener!)
Hints on a moment in my life I could get arrested (I have twice), but my father never had...though my brother has 4 times! He hasn't been sentenced to prison out of all luck, nor has my Dad faced legal trouble and I hadn't got criminality issues.
The result from Asc. (107/108)+Pluto (197/198)=305-Sun (26 Aquarius=326/327)=20/22 Aries. The calendar dates are April 6-8 (which happens to be this weekend) and falling on Good Friday and Easter sunday, this year; this I gotta see!:
20º Aries (20): A YOUNG GIRL FEEDING BIRDS IN WINTER. (where I live, winters are warm and free of snow).
21º Aries (21): A PUGILIST (BOXER) ENTERING THE RING. (I expect I have a challenge in the part of Miracles).
22º Aries (22): THE GATE TO THE GARDEN OF ALL FULFILLED DESIRES. (I sense a victorious reward afterward).
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  or   , I have the same ruling planets:  Uranus and  Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries  in the MC and Venus was her name!
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I leave my pm box full as I need my seclusion/my space... I'm on a bit of a tight schedule as to how much I can give to individuals with my time here... nothing personal, but I have other endeavors in life other than Astrology.
... I didn't join AW Forum to teach the basics of Astrology to folks but to give evidence of correct technique and understanding to those astrologers here in membership that are already at some level of accomplishment...and also, for those members still learning, some 'reasons' [notions,] to keep in the back of ones' mind while learning the basics... as, once one feels they are beyond the 'apprenticeship' or 'chela' level, for future considerations in utilizing as a technique or understanding [depending on what I have provided] as to augment or rectify what Astrological knowledge you will have amounted at that future date ...
...if you are under a 'formal apprenticeship' [Teacher/Student, Master/Disciple] to some 'Accomplished Astrologer' that tells you to ignore, or tries to dissuade you from listening to anything I have to say or offer.. that is between you and your 'Patron', if you do truly trust them then follow their advice/guidance ... great Gurus of the 'Highest Caliber', [Teachers] are most often, wise beyond ones' own reasoning and the lessons we need are the lessons we are given and at the right time that we need such knowledge.
I can only avow to be a sincere and devoted disciple of Sri Prabhu Ram Lal of the Sadhan Order of Yoga of India [an Astrologer himself] under His guidance and protection ... If I am in any sort of error as to what I give then I will certainly hear about it from my own 'Guru'... and I will make it known that I have given erroneous advice... Those of you that don't acknowledge the Guruampara that is the source of these teachings of knowledge or spiritual practices ...then you have no cause to pay heed to me at all.
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Well, here's a new one..for me anyway.
If any of you have read my thread on my recent surgery you know that I went to the hospital with severe abdominal pain on March 31st.
[ http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=49968 ]
That I was diagnosed with 'diverticulitis' and was told I needed and I consented to immediate major surgery.
I am presently recovering at home from having a 6 inch section of my colon removed and being given a colostomy...which, I'm hoping [nearly praying] is only temporary.
When I got out of the hospital [an eleven day stay...8 days on a Morphine drip and only an I.V. for sustenance.] I checked my astrology for March 31st and slapped myself upside the head for not having remembered that Uranus was approaching my Part of Surgery [as I had made a mental note of it some few years back...but, I got busy with too many 'projects' in the intervening years and had all but forgotten the event approaching.]...it was not only approaching it on March 31st it was within a half of a degree .. as my Part of Surgery [Asc. + Saturn - Mars] is @ 05* Aries 23' [and, as of the last few weeks, I've been considering rectifying my chart by about 15' less ...as I figure my birth time that was recorded is rounded up...by as much as forty five seconds to a minute]. Uranus was at 04* Aries 55' when I went 'under the knife'.
Yesterday, I was a bit restless and, having drank too much coffee to be idle for even a minute, I found somethings to do, that I had been meaning to get around to. One of which was finally calculating all astrological Parts/Lots in my natal chart that have the Asc. as the 'Personal Point' and Luminaries and or Planets as the 'Significator' and as the 'Trigger' [Personal Point + Significator - Trigger]. I had a number of them to so determine. I had neglected those that have no known 'Title' [or at least not published] and a few that are titled that just didn't seem to demand any urgency for knowing...I've had too much to keep me busy for quite a long time as it is...[An explanation...if not an excuse.]
One of these 'neglected' Parts is one that I only heard a 'Title' for a few months ago from an answer to this thread for the formula, Asc. + Neptune - Mars, which bears only one 'Title' [that I know of] and that is 'Part of Damage'.
The problem with these Parts that utilize the trans-Saturnian Planets is that they haven't been around for too long... [That is, as to recorded history. Of course they've always been there.] and it's near impossible to get any information on them and almost entirely impossible to find anything written.
I've already discovered to my own satisfaction that a couple of these trans-Saturnian Parts are 'mis-titled' or, I believe it certainly can be said that, they could bear a more accurate title/description.
That the title listed for Asc. + Neptune - Pluto is 'Slyness' seems to me to be in conflict with that title given for that same formula using Mars as the 'Trigger'. ..but, I'll deal with that another day...hopefully, if I live long enough.
My concern here is that I discovered this "Part of Damage' for my natal chart to be [with out the, aforementioned, rectification I'm possibly considering] at
04* ARIES 57'
...yeah... got me thinking allright... it sure does.
How 'Lucky' can one guy get? I mean, having the 'Part of Damage' immediately precede the 'Part of Surgery'.
...the ? is... which is the dominate influence... and is the Title, "Part of Damage", accurate... even 'In the Ball Park', so to speak.
I'd really dig it if some of you members calculated this 'Part of Damage' for your own natal chart..and a big plus would be those of you that have access to others charts and have knowledge of personal histories to go with them... and give some 'feed back' here.
If it is a 'Part of Damage' and it was the ineluctable* influence of that day...well, the knowledge could prove to be of inestimable value to many folks.
*[...I've been hopping for a chance to use that word...I only learned it last week... forgive me for my, sometimes, sophomoric ways.]
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I'm musing on this...could the 'Significator', which for this 'Part' is Neptune, be indicating some sort of Psychological Damage?
As Mars is the trigger...I'm thinking that it does have something to do with ones overall being...both physical and mental...but, is it in combination...could it be that one leads to the other...? [...and, isn't that usually the, almost inevitable, case anyhow?]
...hmmmm...
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
My Lot of Children in Taurus (my daughter has Taurus Asc).
23rd degree of Taurus
A magnificent jewelry shop is revealed, containing every conceivable article of value of beauty.
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My Lot of Children in Taurus (my daughter has Taurus Asc).
23rd degree of Taurus
A magnificent jewelry shop is revealed, containing every conceivable article of value of beauty.
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There is a 'Part of Daughters' that I'm far more inclined to believe in as having to do with children. The formula is Asc. + Venus - Moon. Have you determined where your's is? If so would you mind sharing the info?
ps. The 'Part of Sons' is said to be Asc. + Jupiter - Moon
I have a son born in the sign of Scorpio in 1998. Unfortunately I don't have the exact birth data and his mother and I haven't been in touch since early 1999. [it was the result of a, rather brief, 'affair', of which I'm not really at liberty to discuss. My Part of Children ...as you call it... is 10* Aries 01' and my 'Part of Sons' is 22* Aquarius 32', nearly conj. my Moon at 24* Aquarius 03' ...none of which is much help to me without the boys actual birth data.]
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
I did just realize something of interest [to me, anyways]. this Part [of Re-Incarnation] at 10* Aries 01' is the midpoint of Uranus and the Sun for the chart I claim is that of Yeshua/Jesus of whom it is said i knew in His time.....Hmmmm?
That Sun being at 11* Aries 52' 32" and Uranus at 08* Aries 12' 30".
...and I did just get 'pierced' in my side... ouch!
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There is a 'Part of Daughters' that I'm far more inclined to believe in as having to do with children. The formula is Asc. + Venus - Moon. Have you determined where your's is? If so would you mind sharing the info?
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Its 13 Gem 32.
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Its 13 Gem 32.
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Cool!
Now, can you find a connection to that with your daughter?
...cue the music...
Daughter - Loudon Wainwright III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_oS...eature=related
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Its 13 Gem 32.
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By the way...I found this image of a painting today and thought it to be perfect for your avatar..
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No, i cant find any connection. At the day and hour i conceived her Mercury was at 13 Gem 34, but i guess that has no connection.
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No, i cant find any connection. At the day and hour i conceived her Mercury was at 13 Gem 34, but i guess that has no connection.
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I would say that Mercury is certainly of some interest here. Mercury does rule Gemini... Who knows how some of these things work...we're still practically in the Dark Ages with this 'Science'...while so many other studies...medicine...astronomy...engineering etc. have all advanced in great measure since those times... astrology has been repressed.
Those that had correct techniques didn't share them when the discoveries were made...Astrology was a cutthroat business... Imagine what a cush job a court astrologer had... and anyone that got one would probably pull any trick in the book to keep it..probably invented a few new tricks. I still say some of these over elaborate methods or techniques that are still practiced after a thousand years or more with no notable track record[s] of success and are clung to and defended by so many because of their antiquity or source were most likely invented as a means to impress ones employer and frighten off any competition in the Dark Ages. When the collective intelligence of entire communities or even kingdoms probably couldn't match that of the 'Freshman Dorms' at the most basic local colleges today.
If a number of other member find that their part of Daughters also happened to be where Mercury was at the time of conception...then we definitely must 'Have Something'...
...that's the kind of response and support I've been hoping for in this thread...but to date so far, the members seem reluctant for the most part to get involved.
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
THE PART OF UNUSUAL EVENTS
I've got a rather interesting Part being conjuncted by transiting Uranus this June 8th and there's no best way to get the word out via the other forums...although I've posted it in the 'Transits' forum... I figure that some of you members might not get the chance to follow this observance of mine.
This Part/Lot is one I've never had a chance to study, it is not well known and I know of no oral or written accounts of its influence or anyones experiences with it.... and considering that any conj. by Uranus is a once in a lifetime occurrence, this is a rare opportunity.
The Part utilizes Uranus in the formula [Asc. + Uranus - Moon].
As Jupiter and Saturn will both be conj. the same signs and degrees as in my natal chart, along with the Moon conj. natal Moon that day...and combined with other planets making conjs. to other astrological Parts/Lots...this could get really interesting.
I promise to make a post event report.
Here's the link: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=50846
Thanks for your interest and for those of you that support the idea of a 'Parts/Lots Forum'.
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
Apparently the link I provided in the post above was wrong... [funny, It worked when I first posted it as I always check my links after posting them.]
So, if anyone had been interested and was unable to find the thread, I have corrected it... [and I did check it like I always do...it's working...at least right now it is... and thanks for your interest... and btw it is now 11:30 AM here in Calif. and nothing 'Unusual' today....so far...but Uranus will be conj. the same degree for awhile and will make a last conjunction in Jan., 2014 at the same time transiting Jupiter will be conj. my natal Uranus and Mars conjunct my Part of Change ...at least that is what the formula Asc. + Uranus - Pluto is listed as...!?!?!?]
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Been re reading a lot of Robert Zoeller's book on Arabic Parts and it has struck me as quite obvious that all the ancient astrologers that Zoeller, and most everyone else is so fond of clinging to for source info had most likely been doing natal charts for people for whom there, was most very probably, hadn't been accurate birth times recorded.
As the Ascendant changes a whole degree every 4 mins. these Parts that they seemed so cocksure about were being deduced from the kind of evidence that wouldn't get a second glance in a courtroom in todays world.
I recently deduced that my own natal Asc. surely must be the prior degree. This only required my adjusting the recorded time of 7:41 pm back 45 seconds in time, thus changing my Asc. from 17* Scorpio 10' to 16* Scorpio 58'. The only other House cusps that changed to a previous degree are the 6th and 12th. My M.C. is still in the 25th of Leo as well as my part of Fortune.
This also changed a number of my astrological Parts/Lots, to a previous degree...which includes the part of Hyleg ...which at the 7th degree of Capricorn I was relieved to see see changed to the 6th as the Sabian Symbology for the 7th is pretty darn pretentious.
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(CAPRICORN 7°): "A VEILED PROPHET SPEAKS, SEIZED BY THE POWER OF A GOD.
KEYNOTE: The ability to act as a mouthpiece for the revelation of a transcendent will and truth determining future action."
(CAPRICORN 6°): "TEN LOGS LIE UNDER AN ARCHWAY LEADING TO DARKER WOODS.
KEYNOTE: The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond."
[...and here that number 10 pops up again... the Grand Semi Quintile... that I've connected to the YOD ...the true YOD, the True Finger of God that points to the way to truly integrate the oppositions found in the Zodiac.
My mothers initials were HH, Helen Huff, and by Hebrew transliteration that is 55 ... the esoteric number for the Virgin Mother, Mary ...my mothers middle name was 'Virginia'... Yes, there is more than coincidence about this... It was brought to my attention by my clairvoyant friend and spiritual confidante, Clarisse Conner back in 2007 just prior to my 55th birthday in 2008 ...which is on May 6th ...my mother went into labor on May 5th...5-5...but, I digress...]
So, what I'm saying is ...pretty much... let go of what these ancients, for example such as Albumassar, had to say about these Parts... Let us get busy with contributing our own observations to this thread and determine for ourselves just what these calculated positions do really infer.
Please people...contribute to the study here!
...what it says... "The need to complete any undertaking before seeking entrance to whatever is to be found beyond...!!!!!!!!!!"
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THE PART OF UNUSUAL EVENTS
I've got a rather interesting Part being conjuncted by transiting Uranus this June 8th and there's no best way to get the word out via the other forums...although I've posted it in the 'Transits' forum... I figure that some of you members might not get the chance to follow this observance of mine.
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Did you have any UNUSUAL EVENT in Friday?
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...Nope, but Uranus will be conj. for some time... I was kind of hoping something would tie in with the Jupiter return... Jupiter will be conj. my natal Mars @ 04* Gemini 05' at the end of this month...so.....
[and then again maybe something did happen to which I've not yet become aware....I did meet a Chemistry professor last week that also teaches Kundalini yoga and whom was quite interested in my 'Runic Explanation of the Zodiac'. A chemistry professor that teaches Kundalini yoga is a bit unusual here in the States  ]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYdZu...eature=related
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Well, maybe something did happen.
Last week I went into a consignment shop nearby that is in a large shopping center. I was waiting for my room mate that was picking up some potting soil in at the garden center next door and was looking over the jewelry case with a interest in finding any of the Jewelry that was taken from my apt. couple of years ago. [no, luck...btw]
The fellow behind the counter and I had an interesting conversation about 'Gem Silica' as I had a beautiful 10 carat piece that I had worn for years that I have been hoping to find again someday...and it's not a well known gem stone. [it was recommended by Edgar Cayce to assist writers and artists express themselves.]. It turned out that the guy is a teacher of Kundalini yoga and a chemistry professor and He did exhibit a genuine interest in what I told him about my astrological studies and especially the theory I've posted about, which I call 'A Runic Explanation of the Zodiac'...and I've been most anxious to get that theory circulating among people of science... I'm going back over there today with a diagram I've drawn for him explaining it. ...I've really been wanting a Chemist to get a look at this theory and this is the first one that Ill get to talk to.
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Howdy, I've just added the following Parts/Lots to the list above.
Bondage, Killing Planet, Merchandise, Secret Enemies, Cooperation, Bereavement, two for Assassination, Peril, Escape From Captivity, Imprisonment, Suicide, Death & Disaster, Business Injury, Sorrow, Nobility & Honor, Bankruptcy, Torture, Travel by Air, Travel by Water, Travel Long Distance, Travel Short Distance and the Part of Weddings.
These are all Parts that utilize something other than a Planet or a Luminary in some part of the formula...thus you now know where to find them and i don't need to write out the formula for each here on this post.
Thanks, ptv...
And Please Contribute Your Observations To This Thread!
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
Greetings. I've just added another twelve Parts to the list. They are the Parts of Death of Siblings, Decapitation, the Part of Find [which is obviously strictly Horary], Higher Education, Hopes & Wishes, Possessions, Leave Job [which also sounds to me as something strictly Horary], Powerful Friends, Legal Affairs, Speculation, Mind/Mental Capacity and lastly the Part of Self Undoing.
As with the last additions on 6/13/12...these Parts/Lots are also of the type that have something other than strictly Asc. and Planets or Luminaries involved in the calculation, [that is the 'formula for deriving the Part, to put it differently.] as we do have all those listed...but we could also use some affirmations/confirmations from you members as to whether any of the less known and even obscure Parts/Lots do indeed have an effect akin to the title given it.... even if the title given to one of these doesn't 'seem right' or seems "inappropriate a title", to any of you members [and I sure have noted my fair share of those], please!!! 'Speak Up' and contribute your opinion...!!!
The more feed back, the more testimony this project gets the more successful it'll become.
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08-29-2012, 11:28 AM
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
I'm adding the following 'Part'; Asc + Uranus - Part of Fortune as a possible 'Part of the Unnecessary'. Please see my thread on 'Mystery Parts' in the Developmental sub forum for more on that.
Also, I added a few alternative names to a few of the other Parts in the last day or two.
One alternative name/precept I'm about to add is that of the Part of the Military and Daring or [in latin] pars militiae et audaciae to that of Asc. + Moon - Saturn, aka Part of Inheritance & Legacy.
also, a new one, the Part of Daring, or Strength or Dominion or [in latin] pars audaciae. or fortitudinis, or dominii
Asc - Moon - Ruler of Asc.
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09-16-2012, 11:55 PM
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
I had a bit of an epiphany for the Part derived from the formula Asc. + Venus - Saturn, which seems to me should be well known as it is one of the 'basic' Parts considering that it uses the Asc. as the "Personal Point" and only visible Planets as the "Significator" and the "Trigger". It's called the Part of Mans' Marriage, which to me seems very materialistic and the influences of the Cosmos weren't designed for materialistic interpretation. [Sure, they can be interpreted that way, but there has to be a 'Higher Purpose'.] I thought about it and said to myself; "It's the Part of Contentment of the Soul" I checked my Part for this formula and it is the 10th of Taurus for which the Sabian Symbol was summarily defined by Rudhyar as:
TAURUS 10° " A RED CROSS NURSE.
KEYNOTE: The compassionate linking of all men.
This symbol reveals the feeling of human cooperation at the stage of pure altruism and service to the social Whole. On that foundation of Christ love (agape, or true companionship), man can reach a still higher level of experience made possible by the refinement of the substance of his being, his consciousness and his will. ...
...Personal attachment in love to a husband or wife has changed level becoming a CONSECRATION TO HUMANITY."
I think I nailed it!
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09-16-2012, 11:57 PM
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
Continuing the thought from the last post, the zero hour July 4, 1776 natal chart for the U.S.A. has this Part [Asc. + Venus - Saturn, commonly called the "Part of Mans' Marriage".] @ 01* Aquarius 13' 00", that is, the 2nd degree of Aquarius.
If I'm on the right track in my considering this to be the ''Part of the Souls' Contentment'' then this Sabian Symbol should be what the citizenry of the United States does find contentment in for its' soul...the Soul of the Country that is in common amongst all its' people.
AQUARIUS 2°,
[From Dane Rudhyar's book, "An Astrological Mandala"]:
"AN UNEXPECTED THUNDERSTORM.
KEYNOTE: The need to develop the inner security which will enable us to meet unexpected crises."
...that sounds about right to me.
What do you all think?
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11-16-2012, 06:20 AM
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Re: Astrological Parts. Known and Unknown...a project
While calculating a members Parts this eve I have become convinced that the Astro. Part derived from As. + Moon - Neptune, to be that of 'Revelation' and not 'Insincerity'.
I had serious doubts about the Part being that of Insincerity this past year as I had learned that to a smaller number of Astrologers it is considered to be that of "Revelation'.
I had long been confused as to my own Part of this formula as the symbolism didn't jibe with anything insincere about my self...although it could be taken to mean that what I was told and had been believing and seeing 'signs' indicating veracity was not what I thought and that this was an "Insincerity". It cast a shadow of doubt on the entire body of work as to the other Parts... and that, quite very possibly, I had only seen what I wanted to, or flat out interpreted wrongly... i.e. that I was delusional. [Well, turns out that Asc. + Neptune - Moon is the Part of Delusion... i.e. the opposite formula.]
Then I realized, "Revelation" is the opposite of "Delusion" in many senses.
I reread the one for my Yeshu'a chart and mine own again and I 'SAW IT'.
Yeshu'a's Part of Revelation does take a a lot of deep thought...as who can say what His big "Revelation" might have been, as He was such a highly, spiritual and evolved person, mystic and yogi... and considering the revelations He gave to His disciples ... one can hardly imagine what, in turn, had been reveled to Him. But my own Part now became clear and I have to once again give a 'Gold Star' to Rudhyar for the choice of wording he used as I owe it to.
My Part of Revelation is PISCES 20* [ibid.]
"A TABLE SET FOR AN EVENING MEAL.
KEYNOTE: An indication that in the end and at the appointed time the individual's needs will be met among those to whom he is linked by a spiritual (or biological) web of energies. ...
...This symbol... promises a satisfying or fulfilling end to whatever one has been undertaking. As the life closes, the Soul-consciousness finds NOURISHMENT in the harvest of whatever, during the whole life, has been relevant to the archetypal purpose and destiny of the Soul — one of the myriad of aspects of the divine creative word which began the cycle."
As I am a chela of the divine creative Word itself [having no and needing no Archetype or Satguru only the Word as Guru {teacher...a Satguru is the ultimate master. For Christians it is Jesus/Yeshu'a, for Buddhists it is the Buddha, for many of the Sanatan Dharm (Hindus) it is Krishna or Rama, etc.} as explained by Swami Sivananda in his book on Japa Yoga] and as Rudhyar wrote "As the life closes, the Soul-consciousness finds...", I realize, that as, I only became aware of my dharma at about age 52 [I'm 59 now] and now am sure of being fact that which I had sheepishly dared to suggest to myself for many years... and of which I had been becoming more and more in want to have belief of these last half dozen years... is totally true.... verily a 'Revelation" has been given me this night!
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