Solar Return 2012

[Fireboy]

Soral return chart
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What to excpect for 2012/2013?

Birth chart
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[iii]

your birth time is clock time without back 1 hour correction, right? was 2010 a very terrible year for you? seems that year you got bad fever and hurt in emotion.

2012 normal, 2013 is better.

[Fireboy]

Two months passed already from the first post and still i don't have even one look to my solar chart.What a dissapointment.. I feel like i must begging or please for a read.

[IleneK]

Originally Posted by Fireboy

Two months passed already from the first post and still i don't have even one look to my solar chart.What a dissapointment.. I feel like i must begging or please for a read.

Hi, Fireboy.

Perhaps if you would give the forum a little background or help direct us, someone might zero in on your question. Also, if you are comfortable, posting your birth chart for us to look at along with the SR chart might be helpful.

[kimbermoon]

Here is what I see with regards to the Solar Return chart given:


Moon Phase: waxing crescent: a year of openings and new beginnings
Relationship tensions or difficulties: Moon, Mars, Venus-Jupiter;
restlessness and animosity: Moon/Mars conjunct;
significant changes relating to identity: rebelliousness and desires for freedom;Sun/Uranus opposition
domestic upheavals;
power struggles relating to finances; sun sq Pluto;
necessary balancing between the energies of fire [self-expression] earth [physical and material security] and air [socialization and co-operation]: t-square Mercury, Pluto, Uranus:
mental disruptions, power struggles in communications, unexpected outcomes
expansion/growth in marital or social relationships: Jupiter in 7th
opportunities for romance: jupiter sxt venus
sudden attractions or cultural exchanges; Uranus/Venus
secret enmity or need for retreat; Moon in 12th

[Fireboy]

Background? Well,i have some negative situations here to deal with such as studies impasse,emotional and psychological trauma like isolation and self-hatred,pressure from house and parents,actually they make me feel humiliated,uncomfortable.

Another direction i can give is that for a big period,almost 6 years,19-25 age,everything i've tried to do gone so wrong,i finished school with a bad degree,cause of that they decided to send me go and choose something to learn in a private university,i gave up in the middle,i couldn't stand the studying,that period all of any friends or people i knew before they forgot me,this hurt me so bad.Some of our family relatives/known ppl they're asking and asking for me to know whats my news,what i'm doing in my life,why i'm not going to see them,really,i have to met them 5 years.

I'm just looking for a light at the end of the tunnel,is this light exists in my birth or soral return chart?

[IleneK]

Originally Posted by Fireboy

Background? Well,i have some negative situations here to deal with such as studies impasse,emotional and psychological trauma like isolation and self-hatred,pressure from house and parents,actually they make me feel humiliated,uncomfortable.

Another direction i can give is that for a big period,almost 6 years,19-25 age,everything i've tried to do gone so wrong,i finished school with a bad degree,cause of that they decided to send me go and choose something to learn in a private university,i gave up in the middle,i couldn't stand the studying,that period all of any friends or people i knew before they forgot me,this hurt me so bad.Some of our family relatives/known ppl they're asking and asking for me to know whats my news,what i'm doing in my life,why i'm not going to see them,really,i have to met them 5 years.

I'm just looking for a light at the end of the tunnel,is this light exists in my birth or soral return chart?

Well, I think KimberMoon's observation about the waxing New Moon in the Solar Return

Moon Phase: waxing crescent: a year of openings and new beginnings

suggests a light at the end of the tunnel.

[Fireboy]

Originally Posted by IleneK

Well, I think KimberMoon's observation about the waxing New Moon in the Solar Return

Moon Phase: waxing crescent: a year of openings and new beginnings

suggests a light at the end of the tunnel.

If thats the only positive from the whole chart,i must say it's a bit dissapointed.

[Fireboy]

Another question,which planet in the chart has to do with friends,relationships,communication,sociability? I have issues several years with that,i have run out of friends,difficulties to communicate,to stay with ppl around.

[kimbermoon]

June 12:Another question,which planet in the chart has to do with friends,relationships,communication,sociability? I have issues several years with that,i have run out of friends,difficulties to communicate,to stay with ppl around.


Hi again.All of the personal planets in combination determine how we relate to others and how we are received by others. I specifically look to the Moon, Mars and Venus in terms of one's relationship 'chemistry'. Thus, your combination is Moon and Mars in Scorpio, plus Venus in Leo. Right off the bat there is tension there. The three are in a square aspect, implying certain tensions in relationships. It then becomes necessary to understand how these energies end up being expressed externally.
Moon / Mars in Scorpio: Scorpio is a very intense and penetrating 'emotional energy' which can easily create power struggles in relationship...there is often an underlying need to control or manipulate others, so you might come across as being secretive or overpowering by your intensity. Often people can feel threatened by this energy, especially if it appears you are not being forthright and honest in your perceived intentions. You may react inappropriately to any sense of threat or judgment on the part of others. You may over-dramatize emotional scenarios and may be prone to obsessive / compulsive tendencies;
The Moon in the chart shows what we need for security in relationships: Scorpio has a strong need for emotional control. In that need for control you can become possessive and jealous of your partner.


Mars in the same sign spells trouble and volatility in relationships...Mars shows how we go about getting what we think we want...often that is not in keeping with what we need though and this creates confusion and difficulty. Your approach to others can be too intense, despite a show of charisma and magnetism in the personality you project to others. With Scorpio, there is typically intense passion, and you may find it hard to let go of a hard-won partner. With this combination it is important to maintain emotional control without repressing your emotions. You may also need to lighten up a bit in your search for getting to the bottom of every mystery or secret in life; this heavy water energy can indeed be very overwhelming for some.
You can't always get what you want, but you just might get what you need. In essence we deduce that what you need and what you want are basically in keeping with the other.


Then we come to Venus though which squares both these other energies. The contradictions within yourself contribute to relationship difficulty on the social level. Venus relates to our values, our ideals as well as our expectations in life. Venus in Leo:
often likes to grandstand and be in the limelight:
is idealistic about plays of romance
can often be the drama queen; this Venus expects to be pampered with respect and sincerity
Afflictions to this Venus can cause tendencies towards vanity, bloated egos, indiscretions, flirtatiousness and lack of sincerity.


The interchange between these energies will be disruptive to your social experiences, until such time as you learn how to work on getting a better grip of how these internalized tendencies affect your external experiences...as within, so without. Are you acting from a level of emotional balance, or not?If we are not stabilized within, our outer reality will also seem unstable. We must feel harmony within, in order to experience harmony without.

We are here experiencing in a consciousness hologram to study emotions in physical reality.
Other factors to consider from your chart:
Saturn in Libra: finding balance and security in relationships, as a reflection of self.

Fears about poverty and instability: the lesson is to let go of such fears and to gain more balance between the material and the spiritual levels of experience.
Pluto sq Uranus: early childhood fears and upsets affecting your later life.
Mercury opp uranus: disorientation on the mental level

[Fireboy]

Someone told me that because of moon in aries rules in the 8th house,this means abandonment from friends, death of friendships and friends tend to disappear very abruptly.Do you agree with that explanation?

[kimbermoon]

Not really...it is the 11th house that relates to friends and associates. Strong configurations with Uranus would be indictive of separations of people in relationships...

[Fireboy]

Originally Posted by kimbermoon

Not really...it is the 11th house that relates to friends and associates. Strong configurations with Uranus would be indictive of separations of people in relationships...

Weird,i don't have friends and social contacts the last 8 years,i can't believe there isn't a sign that can explain why it is what it is for so long period.I don't for how long i will face it that.

[kimbermoon]

the question is, does this sense of alientation bother you: perhaps in a way you actually prefer it? not all of us are meant to be socially engaged.


Looking back to the natal chart:
Relationship index:
Jupiter in the 7th:shows that social development is of signficance in your life. Jupiter here would typically suggest benefits and assets through relationships, however there is one major problem indicated due to the square between Jupiter and Uranus, and that can be a big one. The difficulties that manifest as a result stem from situations in the past in relation to your parents and family influences.
Uranus symbolizes upheaval, chaos, unexpected and sudden occurences: it can also create non-confortmity and rebelliousness. It relates to the desire to be unique and independent which can create contentious situations when taken too far. The suggestion is that your early childhood was quite disruptive and did not allow for much consistency in terms of relating with others.


Your domestic imprint is a combination of Sun in Virgo with Virgo rising, and Moon in Aries [earth and air] One of the parents may have been quite outgoing and sociable, while the other was apt to be more retiring and reticent: this is the parent that you would have likely have mimicked and fashioned yourself after as a personality. Moon in Aries is often conflicted and combative however, and can come off as being overly aggressive or controlling themselves further amplified by the Jupiter/Uranus affliction. This is especially so with the affliction of Mars and the Moon.


This differentiation in character would have likely left you feeling emotionally imbalanced, whereby you experienced a lack of harmony and unity within the domestic environment. Without knowing it, we subconsciously tend to re-create the influences of our own conditioning into our later relationships, in an attempt to find that unity and harmony that was lacking in the past. Moon in Aries people often suffer a strong need to 'be in control' of their own life and thus can come off as being overly controlling of others. Did your past leave you feeling combative or argumentative? Were you subjected to criticism or feeling dominated?
The Sun in Virgo carries a theme of developing refinement in employment [specialized skills] and being of service to others[earth] while the fiery Moon has an inner yearning or need for being independent and being seen as important in the eyes of others. Overall then, there is an imbalance within the psyche that needs to be somehow balanced, and the issue is about control.
Perhaps such social distancing is a part of the purging process of Pluto, now in the 5th house, since 2008: what kind of betrayal of trust did you experience since then?

[Fireboy]

To prefer to be alone and in loneliness? I don't think so,of course it bothers me.Friends disappeared and i felt like abandoned,10 years now i never had i a friend to talk,to have fun,to travel,to do things like a physical guy.I am shy person i think,i will not beg anyone to make me friend if he/she don't want.

[Fireboy]

As i understood well,another difficult year waits me,i was wrong believing that 2012 will be for me the year of big changes in a more positive way,2013-15 very crucial to save what i can.

[Munch]

Fireboy may I suggest that you don't make any judgements whatsoever about the quality of year that you are facing?

It usually follows that if you think the worse, you'll get it.

You have an incredibly intense way of seeing and understanding things as is indicated by your 3rd house (using your natal chart). Scorpio deals with waste and also regeneration. Pluto also deals with these two things and is found in the 3rd coupled with Venus.

Venus shows our passions, the things that make us come alive and what we need to feel loved. Venus in the 3rd needs to communicate often about the things it values.

Thus we see that Venus needs communicate quite a bit about her constant evolution brought about by an addiction to death, and rebirth. This addiction is constantly at the forefront of your mind. It is hard for you to see that love doesn't actually require the sacrifice or suffering of yourself or others.

Your experience of your siblings will likely be a rather painful one in which you were controlled via emotional manipulation. If it wasn't a sibling it was a school mate or mates as this energy colors your early education.

You feel and think passionately, but at a young age didn't really know how to channel that passion and express it in a healthy manner. As a result, you received negative feedback about your 'strange' and 'inappropriate' thoughts. This feedback caused you to withdraw and hold back your feelings and your self expression has become locked. You are used to defending your very sensitive heart and are now a stranger to accessing it.

You may have eventually become quite manipulative yourself. Since you are under the illusion that you can't get your needs met directly, you'll have to do it subtly and subversively.

Demands are placed on others and when they are not fulfilled, you become angry but don't express this. Instead, you will resort to coercion and playing on other people's guilt or caring natures to get them to perform and thus, find yourself acknowledged.

Sadly, this method leaves you alienated and unfulfilled, and because you have such a strong presence like an electric current just under the surface, others might attribute negative motivations to your actions.

Your 3rd house gift is in fact your ability to see to the very heart of things and to express it with eloquence and strength. The key to using it is that you must stop using manipulation and instead use the honesty that only the clarity of Pluto can bring.

Pluto has been making some significant contacts to your chart for years now. Starting around 1994, Pluto hit your IC in Scorpio bringing major changes on the home front. These changes didn't stop until Pluto entered Capricorn in 2008.

It is important to realize that Pluto's transits to your chart included a conjunction to Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius and your 4th house. These changes will be reverberating within you for a while yet as you subsequently built and crystallized a value set only to have them tested by Pluto's transit to Uranus causing you to want to potentially rebel from your new values. In some way, perhaps you felt limited by them.

No matter what, you are still settling down and making heads and tales of a turbulent time. Scorpio must seek the absolute bottom, but it must resurface using the buried wisdom of the deep in order to ascend to the heights of its true potential.

Learn when to follow the inner prompting for change verses the addiction to it. Following your transits may be a good way to start this process.

Ask yourself, is my seeking change/drama a result of the ego's authentic need to grow, or am I doing this out of the sheer love of the rush? Then check your transits? Do they support this idea or urging or is Venus being stimulated negatively by Uranus or Jupiter?

To be sure, this is not fool proof or a fail safe, but it might help you to literally have some physical guide.

If you are still unsure, ask an objective party whose wisdom you can trust and remember, not everything is life or death.

Moon in Aries in the 8th conjunct your NN shows a need for emotional independence from other people's values.

Your early home looks rather profoundly magnanimous, eclectic, open and paradoxically rigid in that openness. Things were strictly positive, forward moving and there isn't a whole lot of room for being too serious, unless you are being serious about having fun. Grand philosophies reigned supreme and no one wanted to give concreted direction. A lot of things were left up to you to decide and define.

It would be hard to think along the lines that you do and not feel like an alien in your own home or at the very least, misunderstood.

You idealized your dad, but he was hard to 'get a hold of.' Still, you model a lot of your idea of what you should be based upon your interaction with and understanding of your dad. Perhaps, he was the one that made it hard for you to express yourself. It wasn't meant to hurt, as I can see him being the one constantly trying to cheer you up by seeing the bigger picture. Still, you felt misunderstood and like his love was conditional and contingent upon you being a certain way.

Your mom was firey and remote. She was/is very much so involved in her own thing as is evidenced by her occupying the 8th house (moon) and squaring Mars while trining Uranus. There is a driving energy here that you share in common with her. At least with your mom, there is an energy signature that you recognize, but still, she's not readily available to you and remains more of a subtle behinds the scene influence.

You, like her, habitually see things as being about you. I believe that in the next few years, you'll see a reversal of this accompanied by an accute understanding of the difference between being selfish and being self involved. Sometimes one needs to be selfish, but to become totally self involved (Venus/Pluto in Scorpio) is to narrow your perspective until there is no horizon to even look to.

Edit:

I'm inclined to add looking briefly at your SR, that your deeply and tightly controlled passion is going to start bubbling up from your subconscious. The moon and Mars join your Natal Venus/Pluto conjunction. Your SR ascendant is in Scorpio accompanied by the SR NN conjunct it.

I strongly feel that your repressed Venus/Pluto shall seek and find liberation in the coming year and it shall literally transform the person that you appear to be.

Saturn in Libra trine Neptune allows for you to begin to conceptualize a new reality and foundation for your life.

Chiron on the IC shows that healing the wounds sustained in your early home environment will be of the utmost importance. Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces) is in your 7th house in Gemini and disposes your Chiron. Though Jupiter in Gemini may cause you to try to focus on too much at once, it brings a stronger awareness of your relationships to the fore. You can see and analyze every little interaction (though I don't recommend it), and understand the reasoning or motivation behind them from all parties.

[Fireboy]

Originally Posted by Munch

Saturn in Libra trine Neptune allows for you to begin to conceptualize a new reality and foundation for your life.

Chiron on the IC shows that healing the wounds sustained in your early home environment will be of the utmost importance. Jupiter (traditional ruler of Pisces) is in your 7th house in Gemini and disposes your Chiron. Though Jupiter in Gemini may cause you to try to focus on too much at once, it brings a stronger awareness of your relationships to the fore. You can see and analyze every little interaction (though I don't recommend it), and understand the reasoning or motivation behind them from all parties.

I really hope for this moment of healing to come soon,i need to feel free and comfortable out there.2012 is another year lost for me,i hope 2013-2014 to be more friendly and lucky for my chart.

[Munch]

I do as well as I realize that this is not the first time that you have been on the board looking for help here.

Just remember that you are a co-collaborator in your future. A 'moment' of healing likely will not just happen.

Notice that I said, it shall be of the utmost importance, and not that it would spontaneously happen. You must make the decision to forgive yourself for 'falling short' of other people's expectations. Their expectations are not yours to live up to. You must live for you which means honoring your passions and giving voice to them.

If you choose to fall back on manipulation and feeling sorry for yourself, the healing is likely to elude you.

[Fireboy]

Originally Posted by Munch

I do as well as I realize that this is not the first time that you have been on the board looking for help here.

Just remember that you are a co-collaborator in your future. A 'moment' of healing likely will not just happen.

Notice that I said, it shall be of the utmost importance, and not that it would spontaneously happen. You must make the decision to forgive yourself for 'falling short' of other people's expectations. Their expectations are not yours to live up to. You must live for you which means honoring your passions and giving voice to them.

If you choose to fall back on manipulation and feeling sorry for yourself, the healing is likely to elude you.

Yes is not the first time asking for little support.I understand your point.

[Munch]

That probably came across wrong. I just meant that I know you have been struggling with this for a while and it hurts. I don't like to see you hurting. That's all. My hopes are for thorough and swift resolution for you.

Be kind to yourself and honor your passions. You have so much potential to be a voice of love and compassion. You see what others can't and have the potential to turn all things to good.

[TSAKIRIS NIKOLAOS]

Dear FireBoy,
looking at you solar return it is obvious you want to take your future into your own hands (or by the help of others). Also looking at your natal chart and the transits of Pluto to your Midheaven I see that your worries about your aim in life and your future will get bigger as time passes. In early 2014 you will feel compelled to change the way you “walk”…. Also if you live in Greece and are planning not to become immigrant you must know that things will get much worse the following months and this situation will continue for a decade at least. So you need be prepared. In the natal chart it shows that maybe you are and artist or you had literal studies. Please tell me the field you studied and your abilities in general so I can be more helpful.
P.S. 2003 was an important year for you and I believe that in 2019 many things will change!

[Fireboy]

Originally Posted by TSAKIRIS NIKOLAOS

Dear FireBoy,

Also looking at your natal chart and the transits of Pluto to your Midheaven I see that your worries about your aim in life and your future will get bigger as time passes. In early 2014 you will feel compelled to change the way you “walk”….

I'm nowhere now,i'm not following a specific direction,i've given up everything in my life from an early age,all gone wrong from the first time,studies,friendships,family.I was dissapointed very early.

Originally Posted by TSAKIRIS NIKOLAOS

In the natal chart it shows that maybe you are and artist or you had literal studies. Please tell me the field you studied and your abilities in general so I can be more helpful.

Actually i never liked studies,i'm not artist or something with art,the only thing has to do with that is when i was younger i had the derise to learn guitar but even that failed.I left back my institute and never finished to take the degree,passed almost 5 years from then without to go elsewhere,i just couldn't decide what suits for me.

Originally Posted by TSAKIRIS NIKOLAOS

P.S. 2003 was an important year for you and I believe that in 2019 many things will change!

2003 was an important year from the negative side,from this year and after till now began the falling and the consecutive failures in many things, the results of the current impasse in general.

If you look to the charts i suppose you can understand why the period 2003-2012 gone so wrong,we actually talk for 8-9 years of negativity,wrong choices, and maybe more in the near future if nothing will change soon.

If i have to wait the year 2019 to see a reversal of situations,then i don't know what else to say.

[Munch]

Fireboy, don't wait for change. Be the change.

Set your intention and follow through.

If your intention is to be happy, then that is what you focus on.

[kimbermoon]

Another look at your birth chart:


You may well begin to experience the beginning of important changes in your life by October of this year when Saturn moves into your 3rd house [the mind and communications] and activates a powerful trine [ease and support] involving Jupiter [expansion, growth, benefit] This could represent the dawning of a new and empowering relationship for you. Your birth chart does not show any oppositional energies, and thus the hurdles you encounter are often of your own making. With Sun/Neptune joined in the chart you are apt to be holding yourself back by subconscious self-sabotage tendencies, and this is where you must use and direct your mind to conquering the illusions about reality that you carry within. Take a good hard look at yourself and you will see that your psyche is just waiting to be released from all the drudgery you perceive. Use your imagination for the good, rather than the negative. Sun in Virgo: you are too critical of yourself, with unrealistic expectations of perfectionism. As previously suggested 'The Virgo sun carries a theme of developing refinement in employment [specialized skills] and being of service to others[earth] while the fiery Moon has an inner yearning or need for being independent and being seen as important in the eyes of others.'
Your South Node shows that you are in need of getting rid of your perfectionistic tendencies and hyper-criticality of both yourself and others. Your Path of Destiny is related to the healing of past psychic/emotional wounding, so that you may finally move forward.