"God Particle" DISCOVERED Today!

[dr. farr]

Won't argue against Pangea either-but the time difference between then (200 million years ago) and the (alleged) times for Atlantis (and Lemuria, etc) are well under 1 million years ago-the Atlantis/Lemuria (etc) time is much closer to the present: now, I still accept the Atlantis in the Atlantic hypothesis, and also the Otto Muck destruction of Atlantis hypothesis, as possibilities; however the Antartica hypothesis material has been most intriguing-only reason I brought it up in this thread, relates to PTV's conjecture about the tropical signs having a southern hemiphere ancient origin (which of course, goes against the historical evidence re to Egypt, Babylon, Vedic India, etc, which we generally accept as being the originating places of the components of what developed into our various astrological doctrines and traditions)

[piercethevale]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

Won't argue against Pangea either-but the time difference between then (200 million years ago) and the (alleged) times for Atlantis (and Lemuria, etc) are well under 1 million years ago-the Atlantis/Lemuria (etc) time is much closer to the present: now, I still accept the Atlantis in the Atlantic hypothesis, and also the Otto Muck destruction of Atlantis hypothesis, as possibilities; however the Antartica hypothesis material has been most intriguing-only reason I brought it up in this thread, relates to PTV's conjecture about the tropical signs having a southern hemiphere ancient origin (which of course, goes against the historical evidence re to Egypt, Babylon, Vedic India, etc, which we generally accept as being the originating places of the components of what developed into our various astrological doctrines and traditions)

Interesting day for me at the forum as this spills over into a thread on the Thema Mundi in the General Chat sub forum. I wrote quite a bit about all of that this day and had a couple of epiphanies, one might say, along the way.
What the Vedic India has to say may even be suspect in my opinion and that 's coming from some one whom has nothing but the highest opinion of the "Guruampara".
THE LAST BIT of Atlantis went down around 12,500 B.C. by Cayce's account and as Cayce's dates for the construction of the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx are more and more proving to be as ancient as Edgar had stated them to be which according to Him was due to the influx of survivors from the 'Lost Continent'. [Of which many came to the Americas, some to the Basque region and possibly to one or more of the legends/myths that abound about where all else. That there certainly was a continent separate from the rest that was the home of the 'Red Race' is certain and that the Americas were most likely not it will be understood some day...and I have a hunch it won't be before too much longer.
As Freud recognized the Aton religion of ancient Egypt as being the mother of Judaism ...and Freud, a Jew turned atheist, fluent in 6 languages by age 12 with resource to so many books on Egyptology and, "Many", especially as to compared to what has been translated into English...not to mention what might have been in private collections Sigmund had access or invite to...who could be more informed and impartial as to make such a call? And he did so in his book, "Moses and Monotheism". [Having also written another fine book on religion titled, "Totem and Taboo" which I read many years ago in college.]. What Freud wrote when added to Cayce's info about the Aton coming to Egypt from Atlantis gives good rise for me to believe, that as the Tanakh has been called, "The Big Book of Jewish Astrology" by a number of members of their Religion...I'm best off placing my money on someplace beyond the "Gates of Hercules"...

[piercethevale]

Now I am given to consideration that Antarctica could have been a sizable fragment of Atlantis that had to abandoned...and the legend of it going under the sea may be an improper translation of an olden language that may have said 'under a sea of ice'. Especially, all the more so, if the theory about a sizable polar shift having occurred since Humankinds arrival on Earth is true.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by piercethevale

Now I am given to consideration that Antarctica could have been a sizable fragment of Atlantis that had to abandoned...and the legend of it going under the sea may be an improper translation of an olden language that may have said 'under a sea of ice'. Especially, all the more so, if the theory about a sizable polar shift having occurred since Humankinds arrival on Earth is true.

fwiw I have just posted a new discussion on a radical new theory contending that the lost world of Atlantis vanished 3500 years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Menk-eIIACo

[piercethevale]

The Isle in the Mediterranean Sea Theory?

...I'll pass...


...maybe I should have been more clear?
...the OTHER SIDE of the "Gates of Hercules"...

...IMHO...of course...!

[piercethevale]

I mean, Seriously?

...the entire "Red Race" on an isle in the Mediterranean Sea?


from "Answers" [tm]

"Adam (אדם) means human being or person.

Adam is also related to the words "red" and "earth."
'Adama' (אדמה) is earth
'adom' (אדום) is red
Adam (אדם) literally means man."


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_...#ixzz20FMvkXOs

[JUPITERASC]

HIGGS REMIX "THE FACE OF CREATION" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M--eOnl3kNU

[*emma*]

Why are scientists looking for a god particle when they dont believe in god

[Mandy]

Because many scientists look for any way they can find to redicule the concept of God. That is science: find "proof" and then try every way to disprove it. If you cant disprove it, it may just be true.

From a methodological perspective, it is a fruitful way (and the only way) to work. I just dont understand why eminent scientists who accept that we only conceive a small fraction of reality, who accept that science holds not all the knowledge that it will ever have, spend their life ridiculing the concept of God and astrology and the like, because they cant find (yet) a reason. Although I must say that those who make such claims do not tend to actually get involved in such investigations (or read about them). When I was younger and knowledgable people used to say with conviction "because its not possible," I used to suck it up straight faced and believe it. Now, when knowledgeable people make such dumb statements, I feel there is hope for me yet. (especially when I consider that they are a majority lol) Like everything, science is cultural.

[waybread]

Emma (and Mandy), first of all, many scientists do believe in God. Do you know any scientists personally? I do. Being anti-science gets us nowhere. You take advantage of it every day of your life.

But more to the point, the "god particle" is obviously a nickname for a particle that seems to be one of the foundations of energy and matter, and thus has enormous explanatory power in physics.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by *emma*

Why are scientists looking for a god particle when they dont believe in god

Reasons why it is called the 'God Particle'

... According to online sources:

QUOTE:

“The Higgs Boson is known as the "God particle" because it is:

(1) deemed to exist everywhere

(2) determines the nature of matter

but

(c) is not easy to define”

[who]

at a glance of the day's data, including place and date, and chart a astrology shape, then i bet that it is much more commercial event than scientific event. and i bet it is a rather poor and shallow business ever since the day it is started to gain profit. it is just another con and falsehood. scientists' number always shout the wrong mouth-shape, 99.999% assure is nothing more than a 0.001% fact. i bet the lie will be out-picked in a very short future, very likely this year, 2013, in june.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by who

at a glance of the day's data, including place and date, and chart a astrology shape, then i bet that it is much more commercial event than scientific event. and i bet it is a rather poor and shallow business ever since the day it is started to gain profit. it is just another con and falsehood. scientists' number always shout the wrong mouth-shape, 99.999% assure is nothing more than a 0.001% fact. i bet the lie will be out-picked in a very short future, very likely this year, 2013, in june.

Scientists ARE awarded billions for Research Grants which they use to then take years to discover invisible particles that may or may not exist

[who]

well, i think it's a rather intimidating trick, making expensive and stupid machine with a shape of octopus mouth, and radiate idiotic rays to find the so-called bullshits.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by who

well, i think it's a rather intimidating trick, making expensive and stupid machine with a shape of octopus mouth, and radiate idiotic rays to find the so-called bullshits.

That machine cost 2.6BILLION to build!! That's before the cost of maintenance... not to mention the cost of engineers, scientists and others working the project

Not unlike doctors, Scientists have their own jargon that mostly mystifies the general public. Science is a 'Mystery' that only scientists may understand and vast quantities of loot are spent by the mystified public who are financing the investigation of theoretical phenomen (i.e. there is no proof the phenomena 'under investigation' even exists to begin with)....

'Scientists' then 'translate' various mystical scientific events for the general public using language only they comprehend.... which seems rather similar to 'priests' translating the holy mysteries to the members of the congregation

Europe is on the borderline of economic collapse... The Large Hadron Collider is located on the borders of France and Switzerland with scientists from many countries participating... Just my opinion that the money building the LHC and 'experimenting' with the LHC would have been more usefully spent on Education of local French people as well as Education of the people resident in the various countries involved with the financing of the project – as well as on alleviating the current general economic problems in Europe that are causing widespread rioting in Europe due to insufficient income to meet the needs of daily life. The Euro is on the verge of collapsing yet billions are continuing to be spent on this project.

Certainly the Large Hadron Collider is an intriguing and interesting idea BUT the basic needs of the general population take precedence over a project that is simply theoretical and is draining the budget of many countries at a time when severe austerity measures are being imposed.

[who]

i think it's just a stupid political idea rather than scientific idea, only to show that somebody may have the power to do something, not something need to be done or undone by somebody or for somebody.

and related to the world atmosphere, i'd rather say that europe has far passed its golden age more than one century long. its good time was before the rise of usa, and its dread time will be after the pump of asia. then the cherished good days move to arabic area, during that time europe will get ready for its next golden age. just like four seasons of the year, the four areas of the earth, europe, america, asia and arab represents autumn, winter, spring and summer cycling period. it is just a nature thing, like ice hardly exist in summer or leaves fall in autumn. now it is the winter season of the globe atmosphere, already passed the solstice point about fourty years, and i think the spring will turn out in no more than twenty years.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by who

i think it's just a stupid political idea rather than scientific idea, only to show that somebody may have the power to do something, not something need to be done or undone by somebody or for somebody.

and related to the world atmosphere, i'd rather say that europe has far passed its golden age more than one century long. its good time was before the rise of usa, and its dread time will be after the pump of asia. then the cherished good days move to arabic area, during that time europe will get ready for its next golden age. just like four seasons of the year, the four areas of the earth, europe, america, asia and arab represents autumn, winter, spring and summer cycling period. it is just a nature thing, like ice hardly exist in summer or leaves fall in autumn. now it is the winter season of the globe atmosphere, already passed the solstice point about fourty years, and i think the spring will turn out in no more than twenty years.

These are interesting concepts who