read my chart

[Zuri]

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I'm learning more about Vedic astrology, but it is confusing me because it contradicts my typical Western chart:

WESTERN VS. VEDIC

Sun sign: Scorpio vs. Libra

Ascendant: Capricorn vs. Sagittarius

Moon: Leo in both

Mercury: Libra in both

Venus: Scorpio in both

Mars: Libra vs. Virgo

Jupiter: Scorpio vs. Libra

Saturn: Taurus vs. Aries

There doesn't seem to be a Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto in Vedic astrology, so I've left those out.

As much as I'd love to be a Sagittarius Rising over a Capricorn Rising, I'm afraid that Capricorn Rising far better explains my personality. For those who use both Western and Vedic approaches, how are contradictions such as this reconciled?

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Zuri

As much as I'd love to be a Sagittarius Rising over a Capricorn Rising, I'm afraid that Capricorn Rising far better explains my personality. For those who use both Western and Vedic approaches, how are contradictions such as this reconciled?

Need to see a chart. Or birth info.

[Zuri]

Here are my charts:

WESTERN:



VEDIC:

[Moog]

Capricorn Rising far better explains my personality.

In what ways do you see Capricorn rising explaining your personality?

[JUPITERASC]

Your Western Ascendant is very early Capricorn... so IMO Zuri, you would need to be totally certain that you have an accurate time of birth to say you are definitely a Capricorn ascendant BECAUSE if you were in fact born only eight/nine minutes earlier, then your Ascendant even in Western Tropical would be Sagittarius. So the question is how accurate is your time of birth... but fwiw that's just my opinion

[anoop.indirapuramghazibad]

Zuri,
1. Sagittarius Asc., Lord Jupiter is placed in 11th house, Longevity is good.
2. Mars in 10th house, and is Digbali. Will set the direction of life, and Mahadasha (Period) is running till 2017.
3. Sun is also close to Digbali, might have given direction to life, but not settled.
Importantly, personality is improved because Asc. Lord Jupiter is in 11th house

[Zuri]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

Your Western Ascendant is very early Capricorn... so IMO Zuri, you would need to be totally certain that you have an accurate time of birth to say you are definitely a Capricorn ascendant BECAUSE if you were in fact born only eight/nine minutes earlier, then your Ascendant even in Western Tropical would be Sagittarius. So the question is how accurate is your time of birth... but fwiw that's just my opinion

As much as I'd love for my birth time time to be nine minutes earlier to put me as a Sag Rising, I'm pretty certain that it's an accurate time of birth

Moog.....I'm reading that Sag Rising people are sunny, humorous, blunt, adventurous, extroverted, they make friends easily, optimistic, spontaneous, extravagant, reckless, adjusts to change well, and they are carefree (arguably promiscuous) when it comes to relationships. I'm none of those things. The Sag Rising traits that do apply to me is intellectual curiosity, I like global travel (who doesn't?), and I'm big on my individual freedom.

Capricorn Rising people are serious, introverted, achievement-oriented, arguably a bit on the dull side but mellow as they age, like formality and order, dislikes change, have a tendency to self-deny in some way, and pessimists who view life as challenging. That describes me very well. I actually don't see any Capricorn Rising character traits that don't apply to me.

Even my physical characteristics seem to fit Capricorn Rising better: tall, slender, serious-looking (I'm often told that I need to smile more....I doubt that Sag Rising people are told that), ovate face, short ears. I do not exude radiance nor do I have a long head or long ears, as it's said that Sag Rising people do.

[Moog]

I can see the logic of your thinking, Zuri.

But please consider these points.

1. Saturn aspects 3 personal planets (Sun, Mercury and ascendent ruler, Jupiter)

2. Saturn is atmakaraka.

This sentence caught my eye in a google search:

Saturn being the chara atmakaraka will be similar to having a Capricorn ascendant.

3. Saturn in the 5th puts a Saturnian flavour on social intercourse. How we relate to others is of course one way we measure who we are (i.e. I'm not outgoing, ebullient, the 'life and soul' of the party, etc.)

4. Rahu is in Aquarius. Some astrologers believe that Rahu gives an emphasis to the planet who rules the sign it is placed within (Saturn).

5. Ketu is eclipsing the Moon. Ketu can give effects that can feel quite similar to those that Saturn causes, but can be subtly different.

Some ideas.

[Zuri]

Thank you guys for your comments. I'm still learning about astrology, so I didn't even realize that my Ascendant was so close to the Capricorn / Sagittarius edge.

Since my Mars and Sun were mentioned as being digbali (which I learned means holding more strength or importance) and I'm currently in a Mahadasha (key life period?), I assume that I'm in the Mars Mahadasha - Sun Antardasha category? http://www.indianastrologyhoroscope...._Sundasha.html

Do aspects remain the same in both Western and Vedic astrology? If so, I think my Sun is well-aspected but my Mars is in the iffy category (combination of good and negative aspects).

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Zuri

Thank you guys for your comments. I'm still learning about astrology, so I didn't even realize that my Ascendant was so close to the Capricorn / Sagittarius edge.

You're welcome. I find it useful learning experience myself. I am only an egg.

Since my Mars and Sun were mentioned as being digbali (which I learned means holding more strength or importance) and I'm currently in a Mahadasha (key life period?), I assume that I'm in the Mars Mahadasha - Sun Antardasha category? http://www.indianastrologyhoroscope...._Sundasha.html

Yes, Mars mahadasa began in the end quarter of 2010

Yes, Mars is considered to have directional strength by being in the 10th house.

Do aspects remain the same in both Western and Vedic astrology? If so, I think my Sun is well-aspected but my Mars is in the iffy category (combination of good and negative aspects).

There are some similarities, but the general application of aspects is quite different.

For one, aspects are not only considered between planets, but also between planets and signs/houses.

For example; Saturn aspects Jupiter in your chart, but also the 11th house, where Jupiter lies, and also aspects the empty 7th and 2nd houses.

The aspects are considered differently for each planet involved. For example, Jupiter casts a pair of full strength trine aspects, as well as the usual opposition aspect. Saturn casts full strength on 3,7 and 10 from his position.

http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Amsha/drishti_graha.htm

Another difference is that an aspect is not considered necessarily 'good' or 'bad' based on the angular relationship, but the outcome depends more on the friendship or enmity and beneficence/maleficence of the planets involved.

These seem to be the basic aspectual rules for the planets. Things can get more complicated.

Jagannath Hora is an excellent piece of software that might help you in your exploration of Vedic astrology:

http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Zuri

Thank you guys for your comments. I'm still learning about astrology, so I didn't even realize that my Ascendant was so close to the Capricorn / Sagittarius edge

Zuri, it is possible for you to verify on astro.com how close either sign is to your natal ascendant, by making experimental charts for eight/nine/ten minutes earlier and then noting the resulting ascendant

[beginner]

what is ur profession/career?

Originally Posted by Zuri

Here are my charts:

WESTERN:



VEDIC: