Please help me interpret my chart!

[att75]

Newbie here... I'm learning Astrology at the moment, and I would be grateful if you could help me interpret my chart. I even have 2 questions about the chart, but first I would give my modest interpretation, what I think I understand. I couldn't deny being Taurus/Taurus, I'm typical, my nature and my stature as well. The only interesting thing here is my Sun and Ascendant being “dangerously” close to Algol. But I asked about this in the appropriate thread, and now I don't see this as a big problem, and I hope I won't be beheaded. Mercury in the 1st house: maybe that's why I like to communicate, but only about stuff that I find interesting! I hate small talk – probably because of Saturn in the 3rd, and I'm quite introverted.. So it's tricky, I like to communicate, but only about interesting things with people I know and trust and preferably like (friends). Uranus in the 6th: I'm working in IT (high tech), I guess it's “good” for Uranus. But Pluto is in the 6th as well. It's a problem, because the job is not connected to Pluto, but Pluto still wants to surface in this area. I read that it can lead to office power struggles, luckily it hasn't happened in my case, although I tend to categorize my colleagues, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, what groups, cliques are there at the workplace, etc. It might be a Pluto influence, I don't know. My Neptune is strong somehow, e.g. I still like playing computer games (I'm 34) and generally I'm a dreamer – so I like escaping reality. The impact of Uranus square MC is clear in my life, I hate when somebody tells me what to do, but it happens as I have bosses etc. And sometimes I produce angry outbursts, I shouldn't because it happens that the target is the boss, but I can't help. The reason of these outbursts my be simply the Taurus Sun, or Algol, or Mars in Pisces (I'm very calm before the outburst ).


So I would be happy to read interpretations of my chart, but I too have 2 specific questions.


My 12th house is quite big and hosts the Sun, Jupiter and Chiron, so I guess it's important, but I'm reading that this house is “the dustbin of the horoscope”, or this is the house of hidden enemies, etc. I don't know how to get these? Is my Jupiter in the dustbin, or do I have many hidden enemies (Jupiter – plenty of something), or am I defended against enemies (Jupiter – luck)? My point is, I have difficulties interpreting especially this house and the planets in it.


The other thing is, I'm a loner. I'm not lucky with women (I'm a male), to say the least. Most of the time I have been living alone, without a partner. Nowadays I'm wondering will I remain alone for ever. My question is, what indicates such loneliness in my chart? I have a few tips myself, maybe some of these are valid.

• Neptune in the 7th house.
• Pluto square Venus.
• the previous square plus Jupiter square Venus. It's a T-square, and maybe the solution is in the 8th house?
• Virgo / Pisces intercepted.
• The nodes: SN in 1st / NN in 7th. A karmic lesson maybe?
• Still the nodes: SN Gemini / NN Sagittarius. I read that this is an unlucky position of the nodes (SN “likes to be” in Sagittarius and vica versa.) A karmic lesson, again? I have to add, I saw the natal chart of a guy I know, a serious loner like me, and he has SN in Gemini as well, although not in the 1st house.

I think none of these factors alone would be enough to cause such loneliness – e.g. I guess many-many people have Neptune in the 7th – but these all together... My last idea is, maybe the strong 12th house is connected to my loneliness – restriction...?

[starlink]

Hello ATT54, welcome to our forum, I had not seen you yet. I moved your thread to the "Natal Astrology" department because you did give some astrological input and that is all that is required here. Only if you would not have given anything of yourself, the Greenhorn board would have been the right place for you

Starlink

[astrologer50]

I even have 2 questions about the chart, but first I would give my modest interpretation, what I think I understand. I couldn't deny being Taurus/Taurus, I'm typical, my nature and my stature as well. The only interesting thing here is my Sun and Ascendant being “dangerously” close to Algol. But I asked about this in the appropriate thread, and now I don't see this as a big problem, and I hope I won't be beheaded.

The asteriods and specs of dust are prob best left til last when learning astrology, there are plenty of things to study before then.

You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Notice how you have huge 6-12th houses. Now in Equal house your Pluto is in 5th and uranus 6th. Venus/saturn in 2nd house & moon in 3rd. Jupiter and mars are in 11th house of friendships

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Now basically your sun sign is your 'core beliefs, values, ego' and Asc is your physical body, mode of expression and mask and persona that we all wear and hide behind, but definitely not what's going on underneath. What's going on underneath is your Sun sign. Moon sign, house placements and aspects describe your emotional and intuitive responses, also describes your view of your mother, as saturn describes your father by sign and house position.

So, think of a glass milk bottle the bottle is your Asc and your sun the milk, but the milk still has to 'come out' through the glass neck of the milk bottle....

Now aspects within a natal chart represent 'facets' of our personality, because we are all multifaceted beings. What these do is 'break down and compartmentalise' these facets into smaller bite size chunks. This does take quite a lot of self analysis and objectivity to 'see yourself' and why you do certain things and behave in certain ways. Actually it can be quite good therapy...

Your Sun sign is conj Asc, in fact anthing within 5' of a house cusp going anti clockwise is considered to have more of an effect in the next house. Although technically your Sun is a singleton with sextile to mars but does have a 'outlet' being the Ascendent.... So you sun is viewed as first house rather than 12th

Your Neptune in 7th house opposite Mercury in 1st can cause absent mindedness, confusion, illusion, delusion with communications with significant others.
http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrol...es/house7.html

Venus conj Saturn in 2nd shows issues to do with 'self worth' and feeling of being unloved from childhood and prob father and being rather reserved or shy regarding affectional matters. Plus your venus has a quincunx to neptune
Venus Quincunx (Inconjunct) Neptune

You are suffering at times because you are attracted to inaccurate perceptions of others. This is based on incorrect appraisals of who you are and where you are going. You approach the unachievable with naive confidence, then get confused when you aren't able to be complete with your various projects. This creates an environment where others find you unapproachable and difficult to know. As you show genuine self-acceptance (including your limitations) your range of love expression increases.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

My question is, what indicates such loneliness in my chart?

Your Moon in involved in a grand trine involving Jupiter in 11th and Neptune in 7th showing an easy empathy through friendships and group activities, but moon also has a square/challenge to uranus albeit wide orb and separating. This suggests broken friendships and relationships and acting a little erratic around women or maybe you mother was like this. Moon in Leo wants to be centre stage, in control and in the house of gemini of communications, flirations. There is an emotional need to communicate here.

Your N Node in 7th suggests your life's purpose is to learn about co-operation and partnerships and acheive the balance and harmoney and at same time (Neptune) make sacrifices to support, encourage and help your partner

Mars Quincunx (Inconjunct) Uranus

You want something different than the rest of society and this in itself is neutral. Your frustrations can arise because your manner of expression of your unique desires cuts against the grain of what other people expect from you and your methods don't achieve your goals. Slow down - your intensity and drive can leave you drained without getting you closer to your goals. Only when you are able to hold to a course of action for a long time are you able to get results. Your attempt at "quick wins" always requires you to start over.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Uranus in 6th can also present occasionally as health conditions usually mental, unusual co -workers and sudden disruptions in work place.
Also this quincunx can suggest sudden and intermittent painful things.

North node
http://www.cafeastrology.com/nodesofthemoon.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/article...deinlibra.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/article...gittarius.html

There is nothing in your chart 'screaming' lonliness, life is what you make it, good positive mental attitude is everything..

Astrology is not about sitting home on the couch eating nachos and waiting for the planets to make good things happen in your life. It is always your responsibility to work towards making your own dreams come true. Horoscopes simply help you to schedule your actions for the best possible outcome
http://www.tomorrowsedge.net/virgo-monthly-astrology-horoscope.html

Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2
Etiquette and telling people their fate
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17248
10Do’s and Don’ts with astrology by Rahu
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17450

[astrologer50]

Just notice Transiting Pluto will be opposing your natal venus prob next year, this could be an intense romantic relationship

Romance and sexuality are the key issues now. Your sexual drive is particularly strong now, and you are driven by a strong need to achieve a deeper level of fulfillment in your love relationships. At times during this time period you are not able to constrain your compulsive feelings, and you are prone to dispense with reason, logic, rational judgment, ethics, and taboos
http://www.cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html


www.astro.com also has a free six month transit forecaster.

If you want to research more into house systems try these links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_house_system#Equal_House
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm
For further research try here...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&highlight=placidus+equal
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638&highlight=house+system
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=152849#post152849

[att75]

Originally Posted by starlink

Hello ATT54, welcome to our forum, I had not seen you yet.

Thx, Starlink! I was hiding in the Sport Astrology topics.

Originally Posted by astrologer50

You approach the unachievable with naive confidence, then get confused when you aren't able to be complete with your various projects. This creates an environment where others find you unapproachable and difficult to know

broken friendships and relationships and acting a little erratic around women

Your attempt at "quick wins" always requires you to start over

The story of my life... Dear Astrologer50! Thank you very much for your reply. Everything you wrote is correct, but I wanted to highlight these. Very accurate! O/c I'm going to read the articles you linked here as well. Thx again!

[R4VEN]

att75, I have been drawn to your thread because you are about the same age as my two sons, and you appear to experience life a bit similarly to them - the need for real interactions with others, and not the usual trivial, social talk; a tendency towards aloneness, perhaps even because of the desire for real communication; Neptunian interests (one of my sons is a techie, and is into gaming, while the other is a musician)

Firstly, the intensity of your communications -
You have Saturn in the 3rd, and so trivial matters would be offensive to you!!
I usually look to Pluto for signs of intensity, and your Pluto is interesting. It forms quite a wide opposition to Jupiter in 12th - so perhaps you have strong beliefs about the things that matter to you, and your communications with others would need to be deep and meaningful. I also suspect others could be a bit confronted by this. Pluto and Jupiter are both squaring Venus, so this shines a spotlight on your relationship sector. Are you looking for a relationship which is both spiritually meaningful, as well as sexually intense? It would appear that way. And as astrologer50 has already mentioned, transiting Pluto is moving in to create a square with your natal Pluto (time for a complete emotional/spiritual overhaul) and also forming an opposition with Venus - so you are having to look closely at your relationships and how they work - or not. You may have to do some soul-searching in this area of your life, as no doubt you have a history, and so expectations which may be limiting your prospects.

I find your Jupiter in the 12th house very interesting also. This is the placement of a monk-like (don't be afraid of that comparison) introspective, deep individual. You have the ability to spend time alone and make good use of it. With your Moon's south node in the 1st you also have a soul `history' of going-it-alone, and in this incarnation you have a need to form partnerships, and to consider the needs and requirements of others, so.........

Now to Chiron in Aries in the 12th...............
Chiron forms a quintile with Venus, so it will be the work of this lifetime to deal with relationships, values (that's all that Taurus stuff) and how you move through the world in relation to others. This quintile should pave the way - eventually - for you to cope with this quite well, and to `do the work'. Chiron in the 12th house is not easy, because you can become easily victimised, or even used by others in whom you place your trust. It will be absolutely necessary for you to develop a clear and personal spiritual practise - one which makes sense to you, and encompasses what it is you know to be true. I suspect that for you spirituality and love/romance are very closely aligned. It will be important for your well-being for you to figure this one out, and to not get wrapped up in the romantic and idealised side of relationships with women. Perhaps the current Pluto-Venus square will bring this to the surface for you, so that you can work on it. Despite your relationship history, I feel that you are not destined to be alone forever.

For a better understanding of the 12th house, I suggest you read through this thread.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=16117

I hope this has helped, rather than confused you.

[att75]

Dear R4VEN, thx for your comments, they were not confusing at all but helpful.


„You have Saturn in the 3rd, and so trivial matters would be offensive to you! … your communications with others would need to be deep and meaningful. I also suspect others could be a bit confronted by this”


Absolutely! In many situations, e.g. at the workplace, you should chit-chat, do the small talk. Being silent in these situation may even seem to be impolite. Needless to say, disliking small talk doesn't help my communication with women either. Luckily, I realized this feature of mine relatively early, and I try to „manage” it, connecting into conversations, not just listening, even if it's hard for me.


„the need for real interactions with others, and not the usual trivial, social talk”


And it's not easy at all! I took up esoteric topics a few years ago. General philosophy, Reiki, Angels, and then Astrology. These topics really increased my understanding of... how to say, life, or the World. I wish I had taken them up earlier... Anyway. I have few friends, their number slowly decreases (it's natural, if one has wife and children, family), but even with those who remained, communication is harder, as I have changed a lot, now my thinking is a bit „esoteric”, but they have remained the same. O/c I can still talk with them about many things, but not these esoteric topics. And exactly, I need interaction! If the friend is polite, he will listen to my speech about e.g. Astrology, but that's not enough for me, not even close, I want interaction, answers, new thoughts, etc. but I can't expect this for them, so I have to omit these topics from the conversations. Luckily my relatives are open to these topics.

[JayM]

att75 what hasn't been mentioned here is that pisces is squished into your 11th house and virgo is squished into your 5th, and your mars is in pisces.

The sign that is on the cusp on 2 houses is capricorn and cancer, so what that may mean is that you need to adust your use of cap and cancer energies (cancer is on the beginning of your 3rd and 4th house and cap is is 9th and 10th), and saturn in cancer in order to access your pisces/virgo and your mars energy.

I also have a mars in pisces and jupitor in the 12th trine my moon. My pisces is squished in my 1st though.

[att75]

Thx for your input, JayM!

"I also have mars in pisces" - this is said to make you generally calm, but sometimes your anger explodes. Well, in my case it's true.

[R4VEN]

Originally Posted by att75

"I also have mars in pisces" - this is said to make you generally calm, but sometimes your anger explodes. Well, in my case it's true.

Mars in Pisces........

• unconscious drives, which can lead to outbursts
• operating behind the scenes, or in secret
• holding on to resentment until it explodes out of you in ways you'd prefer it hadn't!!!
• a tendency to brooding, even plotting (as in the downfall of someone else) - watch for this.
• emotional sensitivity, even fear, can get in the way of acting decisively
• avoidance of confrontation or direct action

[katydid]

In terms of meeting women, your mars may hold the key. Having Mars in Pisces in the 11th makes you a perfect guy to meet women in Metaphysical study groups, or at Astrology Bookstores etc. There are never enough men to go around at these events. and if a man understands astrology, women tend to flock to him. Maybe you could save up to begin attending some of the European ASTROLOGICAL CONFERENCES. It may be worth your while in the end.

[att75]

Interesting info on Mars in Pisces!


Big percent of my outbursts happens when I'm criticized and I feel the criticism is wrongful. And luckily these outbursts are not so frequent. Bad news is, people who witness an outburst of mine probably won't forget it, as I'm a placid taurean most of the times. So my angry performance seems to be out of character, they say. As for holding on to resentment, I don't do that! Brooding – yes, frequently. Operating behind the scenes, plotting – I'm trying not to do these, as I have affinity towards them... Acting indecisively, avoid confrontation – not really, looks like other factors on my chart balance this back. E.g. the naive confidence what Astrologer50 so accurately pointed out. O/c in connection with the opposite sex I'm indecisive and avoid direct action and there's emotional sensitivity but in other areas of life it's not typical.


Katydid, thx for the input! And yes, being into astrology and esoteric „stuff” might just be an advantage, I realized that. If nothing more, it's still a topic about which I can talk (with women). Plus, I was told a few times that it's an interesting contradiction in me that I work in IT (polite version of being a geek ) and in the meantime I'm into astrology and other esoteric topics. Guys like this are rare, they say.

"Having Mars in Pisces in the 11th makes you a perfect guy to meet women in Metaphysical study groups, or at Astrology Bookstores" - now that's new info and I will bear this in mind.

[Chalk]

Here are just a few reasons why -
The Moon is your dominant planet.
Moon in the 4th house is very significant in your chart.
Rich inner life, great fantasy and inclinations to the solitary behaviour. Strong bonds with the unconsciousness, the past and one's roots.
Venus conjunct Saturn - Disappointment in love, friendship due to his demandingness or emotionally blocked, has scruple. Excessive thriftiness, conflict of fun and duties.
Sun in the 12th house - An introverted, sensitive, dreamy person with solitary inclinations who may experience difficulties in communication. Often a gray eminence carrying a secret throughout his life.
Jupiter in the 12th house - They are strong idealists and prefer the world of their own fantasy from the reality. Often they find happiness in solitude and silence.
Saturn in Cancer - An aloof, sensitive, sour nature inclined to self-pity and the conservative attitudes. Fear of the emotional bonds and intimate closeness.
Saturn in the 3rd house - Difficulties in making contacts and getting close to other people, difficulties with traveling.