Can I get some new insight?

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by StillOne

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with not competing. Just trying to relate it to Rx Mars is all. I'm very familiar with it myself and have seen it's expression across my life. I also find your choice of style of marial art, aikido, to be quite representative of Rx Mars since it is inherently more defensive in nature.

What you say about competing with yourself is very representative also and is how Rx Mars tends to manifest... internally. The internal battle.

That being said, I find the chart you posted hard to read so I haven't looked at any other placements in relation to your Mars.

I know what you were saying . What would make the chart easier for you to read? Mars is inconjunct the moon midheaven conjunction and trine pluto/mercury. I would have used astro.com if i know where to make the house system a 0 degrees equal house system as shown

[StillOne]

I think you'd get more responses if you post a chart from astro.com. Go to the extended chart selection there and save a copy to your computer then post it here using the "manage attachements" button when you are creating a post.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by StillOne

I think you'd get more responses if you post a chart from astro.com. Go to the extended chart selection there and save a copy to your computer then post it here using the "manage attachements" button when you are creating a post.

Alright added the chart from astro.com on original post

[Alamits]

Also, could we possibly give me an idea of what the retrograde mercury in it's placement with the relationships to it would mean?

[Alamits]

As above states would anyone like to tell me what they know considering my mercury and the aspects to it? Like the fact its retrograde and what it means along with signs and angles and such thanks

[Judy_AzVirgo]

You mentioned going over and over an idea to analyze it, and this is fairly common with Mercury retrograde -- in the same way that Mars retrograde wants you to do things over and over again in order to get it right and 'perfect'. Same kind of energy, Mars on the physical plane and Mercury on the mental plane. Revise. Rethink. Try it again. Get it right.

Plus you have Mercury conjunct Pluto, which tends to think obsessively, and it questions everything, so here is more of that energy of going over and over something, maybe trying to take it down to its deeper meaning.

The square from your Moon in Aquarius to Mercury-Pluto tangles things up a bit more, adding some emotional stuff to your thinking, and making you thoughtful about your emotions. Both. Moon square Mercury could make for some impulsive decisions, but Scorpio and Aquarius are not terribly impulsive.

But you make decisions "too quickly". That could be a Gemini rising influence, because 'quick' is a Gemini byword. And your Mercury-Pluto squares your Midheaven, so maybe you think along the lines of "they're watching me and waiting for me to decide!" You're on the spot. So you cave to pressure and just make a decision.

Even so, your decisions are probably good ones, and probably are more reasoned and smart than you think ... maybe they just don't feel that way to you because you haven't finished analyzing!

You seem to have made excellent use of Mercury-Pluto in trine to your Mars, to have disciplined your body as well as you have. So I'm pretty certain you utilize Mercury-Pluto well in other areas of your life, too.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by Judy_AzVirgo

You mentioned going over and over an idea to analyze it, and this is fairly common with Mercury retrograde -- in the same way that Mars retrograde wants you to do things over and over again in order to get it right and 'perfect'. Same kind of energy, Mars on the physical plane and Mercury on the mental plane. Revise. Rethink. Try it again. Get it right.

Plus you have Mercury conjunct Pluto, which tends to think obsessively, and it questions everything, so here is more of that energy of going over and over something, maybe trying to take it down to its deeper meaning.

The square from your Moon in Aquarius to Mercury-Pluto tangles things up a bit more, adding some emotional stuff to your thinking, and making you thoughtful about your emotions. Both. Moon square Mercury could make for some impulsive decisions, but Scorpio and Aquarius are not terribly impulsive.

But you make decisions "too quickly". That could be a Gemini rising influence, because 'quick' is a Gemini byword. And your Mercury-Pluto squares your Midheaven, so maybe you think along the lines of "they're watching me and waiting for me to decide!" You're on the spot. So you cave to pressure and just make a decision.

Even so, your decisions are probably good ones, and probably are more reasoned and smart than you think ... maybe they just don't feel that way to you because you haven't finished analyzing!

You seem to have made excellent use of Mercury-Pluto in trine to your Mars, to have disciplined your body as well as you have. So I'm pretty certain you utilize Mercury-Pluto well in other areas of your life, too.

Thanks for your reply... I didn't so much realize that side of rethinking and revisiting...but I know that I do it. This side of me really bothers my friends because of my obsessive analyzing and revisiting of ideas and such...but I get my fill of deep conversation and ideas that way. How do you think Chiron plays into it?

[Judy_AzVirgo]

I'm not an expert on Chiron, but I'll give it a go. It's in your 3rd house squaring your Mercury-Pluto and opposite your Moon. A big ball of wax involving how you communicate with others.... and probably a lot of angst about people's reactions to what you say/think.

For you, the wounding associated with Chiron probably has to do with a lack of self-confidence about projecting your ideas.

So you may be dissatisfied with yourself, thinking that what you say is either weak/meek or TOO forceful. ("Oh, I should have said it this way." Or, "I shouldn't have said that.") Do you put a lot of emotion into what you say? Or do you have trouble expressing emotions? With the Moon opposition, you're very sensitive to how people react, and you want to please them. Maybe that somehow worked against you when you were very young? (I.e., parents telling you to "speak up!" or "pipe down", or ignoring your ideas -- something like that.)

You mentioned that you're teaching Aikido techniques to others. I think this is a terrific way for you to heal that Chiron wound and become more confident in your presentation.

[dear_darkness]

If we don't consider Chiron a planet, your Sun might be a singleton, the only planet in Fire. I might be wrong for all I know. Or actually your Sun is a singleton anyway, because it's your only planet in a mutable sign.

http://www.astrologyclub.org/article...ns/sun/sun.htm

This might perhaps resonate with the placement of your Uranus

[kimbermoon]

Re Alamits:
Question: How might you say the conjunction of Venus/uranus/neptune works in your life?
In the sign of Cappy, do you stick to traditional values and are reserved about your ideals and affections?
In the 8th house: life or death circumstances? the death of an elder? Conflicts relating to shared resources? Psychological problems about money?
How about Saturn in Aquarius: fears about freedom and independence? Feeling too limited and restricted? thanks

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by Judy_AzVirgo

I'm not an expert on Chiron, but I'll give it a go. It's in your 3rd house squaring your Mercury-Pluto and opposite your Moon. A big ball of wax involving how you communicate with others.... and probably a lot of angst about people's reactions to what you say/think.

For you, the wounding associated with Chiron probably has to do with a lack of self-confidence about projecting your ideas.

So you may be dissatisfied with yourself, thinking that what you say is either weak/meek or TOO forceful. ("Oh, I should have said it this way." Or, "I shouldn't have said that.") Do you put a lot of emotion into what you say? Or do you have trouble expressing emotions? With the Moon opposition, you're very sensitive to how people react, and you want to please them. Maybe that somehow worked against you when you were very young? (I.e., parents telling you to "speak up!" or "pipe down", or ignoring your ideas -- something like that.)

You mentioned that you're teaching Aikido techniques to others. I think this is a terrific way for you to heal that Chiron wound and become more confident in your presentation.

I have a very hard time expressing emotions and I am not demonstrative in the slightest. I have just associated this with having moon in Aquarius. When I was very young I would talk and talk and talk....and talk some more and I'm sure I got the pipe down responses a lot of the time. I use analogies to express my ideas. I find that telling a story on the spot to express what I am talking about or what my goal is is the easiest way to get my point across. When I teach techniques to people I use analogies and expressions to teach and I get really good results from it.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by kimbermoon

Re Alamits:
Question: How might you say the conjunction of Venus/uranus/neptune works in your life?
In the sign of Cappy, do you stick to traditional values and are reserved about your ideals and affections?
In the 8th house: life or death circumstances? the death of an elder? Conflicts relating to shared resources? Psychological problems about money?
How about Saturn in Aquarius: fears about freedom and independence? Feeling too limited and restricted? thanks

Can you elaborate a bit more please? I don't quite understand the placement of the triple conjunction. Can you explain more about the 8th house bit you are asking me about also? I wouldn't so much say that I have fears about freedom and independence but I really am striving to keep it at any cost within reason. I don't feel limited and restricted by saturn in aquarius by any means I find it rather helpful...if you can imagine

[Judy_AzVirgo]

The triple conjunction is an interesting one, though I think the Venus-Mars opposition is too wide. Venus and Neptune surely have a diffusing or calming effect on Uranus in Capricorn, but probably 'reserved', maybe noncommittal about love; in love with an ideal rather than a person?

I've stayed away from house descriptions with this chart because of the whole-house system. It's quite possible that, using a different house system, Venus could be in the 9th, for instance. And to me, Alamits' Sun is in the 6th rather than the 7th... a 6th house Sun seems to mesh with the idea of 'perfecting the body' and becoming skilled at Aikido. Just MO.

dear_darkness, you're right about his Sun being his only Fire planet. But Alamits, you don't appear to be a very 'fiery' type, even with the sextile to Jupiter. Maybe because the Saturn trine is stronger, or because of the 6th house placement? I can see you expressing your Aquarius Moon strongly, due to its placement so close to the Midheaven. And Saturn, too, for that matter.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by Judy_AzVirgo

The triple conjunction is an interesting one, though I think the Venus-Mars opposition is too wide. Venus and Neptune surely have a diffusing or calming effect on Uranus in Capricorn, but probably 'reserved', maybe noncommittal about love; in love with an ideal rather than a person?

I've stayed away from house descriptions with this chart because of the whole-house system. It's quite possible that, using a different house system, Venus could be in the 9th, for instance. And to me, Alamits' Sun is in the 6th rather than the 7th... a 6th house Sun seems to mesh with the idea of 'perfecting the body' and becoming skilled at Aikido. Just MO.

dear_darkness, you're right about his Sun being his only Fire planet. But Alamits, you don't appear to be a very 'fiery' type, even with the sextile to Jupiter. Maybe because the Saturn trine is stronger, or because of the 6th house placement? I can see you expressing your Aquarius Moon strongly, due to its placement so close to the Midheaven. And Saturn, too, for that matter.

If you would like I'll post the placidus chart so you can interpret that way. Our school focuses on martial effectiveness but we are big on relating with our attackers and keeping the connection which I would think would be more seventh house stuff. I am open to your opinion and interpretation of the other chart style let me know and I'll put it up

[kimbermoon]

Originally Posted by Alamits

Can you elaborate a bit more please? I don't quite understand the placement of the triple conjunction. Can you explain more about the 8th house bit you are asking me about also? I wouldn't so much say that I have fears about freedom and independence but I really am striving to keep it at any cost within reason. I don't feel limited and restricted by saturn in aquarius by any means I find it rather helpful...if you can imagine

Re my questions:


In using this chart for interpretation, with the conjunction falling in the 8th house, I am just curious to see how you feel the energies have affected you. If the 8th represents 'shared resources' from death, such as insurance policies or trusts or inheritances, have such experiences occurred for you? Do you have a greater interest in 'the mysteries of life and death'; as in metaphysics or transcendentalism,etc? this is another issue that can be connected with the 8th house. Or do you experience it through psychological difficulties in dealing with life and death issues? As the opposite to the 2nd house, this house can also relate to spiritual resources, as opposed to the material resources of the 2nd. I just find that the 8th house can often be quite an enigma to interpret. And how do you think your Venus in Capricorn operates through this house?
Regarding the other mention about your particular generation, I have done much research because of all the inquiries I have received, which I have addressed in my personal blog @
http://mystikvale.netfirms.com/.
As per Saturn: now of course we always tend to think of Saturn as being the taskmaster demanding that we take care of routine business: we look to it for indications of particular limitations or restrictions...perhaps in your case it is more helpful towards success, though as a result of the Grand Air Trine it is involved in....

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by kimbermoon

Re my questions:


In using this chart for interpretation, with the conjunction falling in the 8th house, I am just curious to see how you feel the energies have affected you. If the 8th represents 'shared resources' from death, such as insurance policies or trusts or inheritances, have such experiences occurred for you? Do you have a greater interest in 'the mysteries of life and death'; as in metaphysics or transcendentalism,etc? this is another issue that can be connected with the 8th house. Or do you experience it through psychological difficulties in dealing with life and death issues? As the opposite to the 2nd house, this house can also relate to spiritual resources, as opposed to the material resources of the 2nd. I just find that the 8th house can often be quite an enigma to interpret. And how do you think your Venus in Capricorn operates through this house?
Regarding the other mention about your particular generation, I have done much research because of all the inquiries I have received, which I have addressed in my personal blog @
http://mystikvale.netfirms.com/.
As per Saturn: now of course we always tend to think of Saturn as being the taskmaster demanding that we take care of routine business: we look to it for indications of particular limitations or restrictions...perhaps in your case it is more helpful towards success, though as a result of the Grand Air Trine it is involved in....

Well considering I'm only 19 there is a lot of time for inheritances to show up, if there are any, but currently nothing of that deal. I am very much into the mysteries of life and death. My aikido training is practice for the moment of death to die with a smile on my face and to be relaxed and just ride to the next phase of life. I am very much into the paranormal with the idea that there are spirits of your relatives, both good and bad, with us in certain instances when they are locked into this life. Does this count? I wouldn't say that I have difficulties with life and death, for instance, when my grandma died earlier this year the first things I said were "good things are happening" which is a quote from one of India's highest saints. Not to mean that I'm glad she is gone but to say that the universe is working as it should be because we are born and die. I have never once cried over the loss and death of a relative and they were all close. Life and death are just parts of life that we sign onto when we inhibit a body. In terms of venus in the 8th with capricorn, I relate this to my lack of wanting sex along with the mars retrograde/debilitated. I am attracted to the opposite sex and everything but I never wanted to dive into that part of a relationship. I find this contributes to my 'cold' expression of emotions. I do not express my emotions outwardly and feel very exposed when I try. I will be looking through your blog it looks interesting and will let you know what I think ...

[Alamits]

I have read the information you have on this conjunction and I think you should go back to it because there seems to be doubles of the same information

[Judy_AzVirgo]

Originally Posted by Alamits

If you would like I'll post the placidus chart so you can interpret that way.... I am open to your opinion and interpretation of the other chart style let me know and I'll put it up

Sure, why not post both charts.

[kimbermoon]

Thank you so much for clarifying: your explanation provides a very good assessment of how the 8th house conjunction might play out...especially in terms of your 'values and expectations' of sex. Also the fact that you have progressive ideas about death as well, which is befitting a generation that is endowed with more such progressive and transformative ideas.

'I have never once cried over the loss and death of a relative and they were all close. Life and death are just parts of life that we sign onto when we inhibit a body.'

Your Moon and uranus are also a testament to being rather detached emotionally, as is Venus in Capricorn. You sound as if you have found a beneficial path in life to expand on your conscious awareness and understandings...good for you. I am hoping that this 'generation gap' can be bridged, for the good of all. Best wishes.

[Alamits]

Added Placidus chart to original post thanks

[Chalk]

Sun in Sagittarius in 6th house.
Your Vitality is founded on Exploration and is directed towards Service.
Moon in Aquarius in 10th house.
Your Emotional Nature is founded on Ideals and is directed towards Profession.
Ascendant in Gemini (Gemini on the cusp of the 1st house).
Your Personality is founded on Ideas and is directed towards Self-Mastery.
Midheaven in Aquarius in 9th house.
Your Environment is founded on Ideals and is directed towards Exploration.
True Node in Sagittarius in 7th house.
Your Life Purpose is founded on Exploration and is directed towards Partnership.
Saturn is your dominant planet.
Saturn trine Ascendant 0°34'.
Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by Chalk

Sun in Sagittarius in 6th house.
Your Vitality is founded on Exploration and is directed towards Service.
Moon in Aquarius in 10th house.
Your Emotional Nature is founded on Ideals and is directed towards Profession.
Ascendant in Gemini (Gemini on the cusp of the 1st house).
Your Personality is founded on Ideas and is directed towards Self-Mastery.
Midheaven in Aquarius in 9th house.
Your Environment is founded on Ideals and is directed towards Exploration.
True Node in Sagittarius in 7th house.
Your Life Purpose is founded on Exploration and is directed towards Partnership.
Saturn is your dominant planet.
Saturn trine Ascendant 0°34'.
Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely.

Can you explain what conditions make the "dominant planet"? Also, what you mean by "Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely." Would appreciate it

[Chalk]

Originally Posted by Alamits

Can you explain what conditions make the "dominant planet"? Also, what you mean by "Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely." Would appreciate it

Planets located in the angular houses (1,4,7, and 10) are strongly emphasize in the charts thus making them dominant.
Saturn trine Ascendant.
Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely. Your Responsibility flows with your Personality extremely. Saturn trine the Ascendant means that you feel a great responsibility for developing your creative talents to derive the greatest benefit from them. You understand that success does not always come easily and that only hard work will produce the results you want. Since you are such an isolationist, you deprive yourself of the companionship of people who really appreciate you. you have to show that you are warmer than you appear, and learn to lower the barriers that keep people from warming up to you.

[Alamits]

Originally Posted by Chalk

Planets located in the angular houses (1,4,7, and 10) are strongly emphasize in the charts thus making them dominant.
Saturn trine Ascendant.
Your Conditioning flows with your Personality extremely. Your Responsibility flows with your Personality extremely. Saturn trine the Ascendant means that you feel a great responsibility for developing your creative talents to derive the greatest benefit from them. You understand that success does not always come easily and that only hard work will produce the results you want. Since you are such an isolationist, you deprive yourself of the companionship of people who really appreciate you. you have to show that you are warmer than you appear, and learn to lower the barriers that keep people from warming up to you.

Showing others that I am warmer than I appear so far has really backfired on me so far. I am learning to selectively show it little bits at a time so as to protect myself at the same time.

[Chalk]

Originally Posted by Alamits

Showing others that I am warmer than I appear so far has really backfired on me so far. I am learning to selectively show it little bits at a time so as to protect myself at the same time.

I completely agree with you. I feel the same way. Here is a link so you can understand the angular houses more better.
http://www.mollysastrology.com/astro...torials/angles