if someone could spare a bit of time to help with synastry?

[dear_darkness]

Hi all,

I was massively in love with this person, still in love with the past in a way. Basically was wondering if I should consider going back to him, because whatever the facts are I am still haunted. Lately I discovered he actually still loves me. Basically, I can see quite a bit of stuff, Eros conj. Psyche and whatnot

I'm just scared I'll never happen on compatibility this intense with anyone else and I don't want any love smaller than this ever in my life, because I don't ever wnat to compare my feelings to my feelings from the past

Would be super-grateful for any insight

Cheers

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by IleneK

Hi.

I don't see anything wrong with considering getting back with him. After all, that is what you are already doing by posting here :-) But here is what I see with a quick look. With his Neptune on your Sun, it is going to be very difficult for you to see him clearly [like, "still in love with the past" and "haunted"] Rather you will tend to idealize him, which is okay for the romance period, but does not afford a lot of staying power for the long term, which is what I expect you are betting on and hoping for.

I sense need for caution. What you perceive that he is feeling may not be accurate...And if I may make a suggestion, it might be good not to make such strict rules about why it has to be him now and not anyone else while you are also feeling scared. It seems you might be a lot happier and feel more secure to be in love with someone that you know you can see clearly.

Thanks for the feedback, but I shall not be able to fall in love with anyone i don't feel this intensely about. There's zero probability of finding someone else with eros conjunct my psyche and whatnot. There's zero probability of this happening while I'm still young.

I shall not be able to consider normal earthly relationships. In fact, he once tried to **** me out of his life (literally by getting laid with someone else) and funnily enough he failed.

And I don't want to share my bed with someone I won't be able to forgive for not making me feel like that lover of mine did. I will end up humiliating and hating anyone who will hope to win my love by making me breakfast and whatnot. Just because sometimes love is divine, but in most cases it isn't.

It was actually like that with him, it felt immense, it felt like contemplating the absolute and being loved by the universe and stroked by god. And nothing smaller will do for me, once one tries, there's no going back to normal

It's just not late to get things right. But it might get late and my only chance will be ******* up. Speaking of how I know about his feelings - we are not friends on facebook and he doesn't know I know the [fake] name he's using, and he posted a photograph of my neighbourhood, where he used to come see me, looking exactly like my block of flats. The caption was "home is where the heart is". There has been more stuff like that, too boring to list it all. So whatever.

[d00dle]

Originally Posted by dear_darkness

Hi all,

I was massively in love with this person, still in love with the past in a way. Basically was wondering if I should consider going back to him, because whatever the facts are I am still haunted. Lately I discovered he actually still loves me. Basically, I can see quite a bit of stuff, Eros conj. Psyche and whatnot

I'm just scared I'll never happen on compatibility this intense with anyone else and I don't want any love smaller than this ever in my life, because I don't ever wnat to compare my feelings to my feelings from the past

Would be super-grateful for any insight

Cheers

i don't know your situation, but it sounds similar. is there a reason why you aren't together. i was madly in love with someone once (we weren't together) and I thought I couldn't ever fall in love again or be with anyone else. time passed, I still think of her sometime and imagine what we could have been and our life together, but I learned that I had to let her go and let myself fall in love again.

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by d00dle

i don't know your situation, but it sounds similar. is there a reason why you aren't together. i was madly in love with someone once (we weren't together) and I thought I couldn't ever fall in love again or be with anyone else. time passed, I still think of her sometime and imagine what we could have been and our life together, but I learned that I had to let her go and let myself fall in love again.

well, d00dle, how much time passed and was the new love an upgrade on the old one? and what kinda aspects were involved? are you sure you weren't just filling the void?

i wasn't paying much attention to the aspects back then, but when I actually found out that his eros is almost exactly conjunct my psyche, and the description sounded exactly like i experienced it, it kind of all hit home. this explained just everything. i felt transported the second i set eyes on him, the world got transfigured. and he kept writing me love songs which stated the same thing. it's like i can never come home if its not to someone i feel that way about.

by the way, one can fall in love just by having sex regularly, this stuff is produced post-orgasm which makes you feel tenderness for the partner, it might gradually evolve into something deeper. which is a massive mockery of cosmic love given by god. i have heard of people spending time together and investing emotions, but whats the point if there's no that divine spark? it will not come if it wasnt there in the first place!!

[d00dle]

i don't think stars would actually tell you how the relationship affects each person or if the two people will be together. It might show potential attraction and areas where the two people can work together or places where the two can get along or need to work things out.

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by d00dle

i don't think stars would actually tell you how the relationship affects each person or if the two people will be together. It might show potential attraction and areas where the two people can work together or places where the two can get along or need to work things out.

yeah totes. as well as where there's ZERO potential attraction or just normal healthy romance, like everyone experiences every day.

[Suffering in Saturn]

You're about to start your saturn return, a period of questioning everything. These absolute requirements you have for relationships may dissolve over the next few years. How open you are to change and new ideas will determine how much you struggle during this period. Saturn is the great malefic, and known to take away things that are bad for us, even if it seems painful at the time. No matter how much we struggle, saturn's going to win. It appears the object of your affection is a few years younger so will not go through his period of ascending into maturity for several years. Maybe try dating someone who is closer to your own age and therefore closer to your stage in life. You won't ever know if you are going to find as strong of an attraction if you don't try.

http://www.scorpioseason.com/2011/01/the-saturn-return/

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by Suffering in Saturn

You're about to start your saturn return, a period of questioning everything. These absolute requirements you have for relationships may dissolve over the next few years. How open you are to change and new ideas will determine how much you struggle during this period. Saturn is the great malefic, and known to take away things that are bad for us, even if it seems painful at the time. No matter how much we struggle, saturn's going to win. It appears the object of your affection is a few years younger so will not go through his period of ascending into maturity for several years. Maybe try dating someone who is closer to your own age and therefore closer to your stage in life. You won't ever know if you are going to find as strong of an attraction if you don't try.

http://www.scorpioseason.com/2011/01/the-saturn-return/

saw your thread, dear madam, i don't believe it's fair to throw saturn in everybody's face if it preoccupies you so much.

old men should have sex with old women because someone should satisfy their libido and keep them from being mean to the young and beautiful. and i look 10 years younger than i am, does this mean i should get laid with over 30yo who are plain disgusting to even touch (or to even think of touching)?

and for the billionth time i don't want to date anyone without being in love, is it really not obvious?

last but not least, it is equally obvious that by thoroughly looking for something, one never really finds it

and i totally beg your pardon - are you saying one can lose faith in the absolute and cosmic love having seen it face to face?

[Suffering in Saturn]

Wow, I'm honestly taken aback by how angry and defensive your reply was. I wasn't trying to be mean to you, I was just explaining what saturn does. Saturn's squaring your sun in capricorn and libra teaches about relationships. It's not my opinion, it's a fact. You asked for an interpretation, and I gave you one based on my own experience and what I have read. Anyone who has experienced a saturn return will tell you the same thing. I was just trying to explain that things don't always work out the way we want them to yet sometimes that is for the best. Sometimes what we want is bad for us, but I'll let you figure that out on your own. It doesn't seem like you are open to hearing what you don't want to hear at this point in your life. Just remember, experiences that are new for you are not new for older people. It's not being mean it's just called life experience. It's fine, I'll forgive you, I was like that once, too.

Again, I apologize if any of my previous post came off as mean. I won't comment on any more of your threads. Good luck to you in whatever future decisions you make. I hope your saturn return goes as beautifully as you expect it to.

[Suffering in Saturn]

"why are you so pathetic?

why do you want saturn to take things away from me, why??? you don't even know me. why do you really, really want me to be old and probably unattractive like yourself? why do you not want me to be loved by younger guys?

if saturn makes you suffer it's your own fault. i have met a ton of people who were barely affected by the return. and if i want to i won't even live to see mine.

apparently you have no courage to change your life and none to take it either, zero power over anything. do you believe you are entitled to lecturing anyone, with this kind of **** in your own life?

nobody is obliged to be a loser you know"


I know I said I wouldn't comment on your threads anymore, but this private message you just sent me seems to infer you are ready to take your own life, so I would be remiss to do nothing about it. If you won't listen to me, hopefully someone else can get through to you. If you are contemplating suicide, saturn may be affecting you more than you're ready to admit.

Again, I don't WANT saturn to take anything away from you, but saturn doesn't need my consent. Chase/stalk younger men all you want. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences when things don't go the way you want them to. One day you will understand relationships are about more than just wild, passionate sex. Sex is a way to express love, but sex and love are very different things.

I've taken all the steps I possibly can in my situation, but as you will hopefully someday learn, some things in this world are simply beyond our control, unless, as you suggest, we commit suicide. "Changing my situation" would involve leaving my dying husband, whom I love. I don't think that's the right thing to do, but thanks for the suggestion. And I'm only about six months older than you, so wishing my age on you would not be all that terrible of a punishment looks-wise, even though beauty is only skin deep.

Again, good luck. I can sense you're in deep pain, so I hope everything turns out for the best for you. Hopefully someone else will chime in and offer you the help you need.

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by Suffering in Saturn

"why are you so pathetic?

why do you want saturn to take things away from me, why??? you don't even know me. why do you really, really want me to be old and probably unattractive like yourself? why do you not want me to be loved by younger guys?

if saturn makes you suffer it's your own fault. i have met a ton of people who were barely affected by the return. and if i want to i won't even live to see mine.

apparently you have no courage to change your life and none to take it either, zero power over anything. do you believe you are entitled to lecturing anyone, with this kind of **** in your own life?

nobody is obliged to be a loser you know"


I know I said I wouldn't comment on your threads anymore, but this private message you just sent me seems to infer you are ready to take your own life, so I would be remiss to do nothing about it. If you won't listen to me, hopefully someone else can get through to you. If you are contemplating suicide, saturn may be affecting you more than you're ready to admit.

Again, I don't WANT saturn to take anything away from you, but saturn doesn't need my consent. Chase/stalk younger men all you want. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences when things don't go the way you want them to. One day you will understand relationships are about more than just wild, passionate sex. Sex is a way to express love, but sex and love are very different things.

I've taken all the steps I possibly can in my situation, but as you will hopefully someday learn, some things in this world are simply beyond our control, unless, as you suggest, we commit suicide. "Changing my situation" would involve leaving my dying husband, whom I love. I don't think that's the right thing to do, but thanks for the suggestion. And I'm only about six months older than you, so wishing my age on you would not be all that terrible of a punishment looks-wise, even though beauty is only skin deep.

Again, good luck. I can sense you're in deep pain, so I hope everything turns out for the best for you. Hopefully someone else will chime in and offer you the help you need.

you don't seem to be good at reading either. no one talked about sex except you. thinking everybody talks about sex is a clear sign of being under-******. have you heard of karmic love? don't worry, if you even meet yours when you're 60 it will not be too late anyway, you will still be able to appreciate (unless your brain decomposes, that is)

and i look good enough not to stalk anyone.

well whatever you sound like you're 35.

and i am not in pain. if the universe wants me to feel love for vibeless boring idiots totally inferior to me one can't even walk next to in the streets without being ashamed of it, then well surely i can have an opinion on that and chuck these lovely gifts away without unwrapping?

and you're posting private messages to be visible to everyone, not super-ethical. or do you need to be explained that as well?

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by IleneK

I agree. At this point in the exchange it is hard to understand why you posted here except to vent some rather ugly feelings in response to comments you solicited. Because based on your responses, you had already made up your mind.

I am sorry you appear to be feeling so wretched.

I didn't make up my mind, that's the thing. Besides, that woman's speculations have nothing to do with my situation anyway. And ugly is posting private messages on public boards. I believe you wouldn't like that done to yours?

All she's saying is that I'm old. How can I be old if I look ten years younger? No wrinkles around my eyes, none of that ****. Let others be old if they want to I actually looked younger than my lover 3 years younger than myself when we were together, for heaven's sake.

I once ripped off all of the ivy (ruled by saturn) hanging over from my neighbours' garden on a saturday and nothing happened, i am totally immune to saturn.

What can be potentially good about letting go the person who felt like home and heaven, just being next to him?? The correct answer: nothing whatsoever, unless another one turns up, which is probably not happening. If I cannot get divine love while I'm still young the only way to show the universe it mistreated me will be to die. All very logical.

[StillOne]

Hello Dear_Darkness,
I hope all is well! Glad to hear you (re)found someone!

Ilene and SiS, here's an older thread that D_D posted that can give you some background. Figured it was relevant:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=41735

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by StillOne

Hello Dear_Darkness,
I hope all is well! Glad to hear you (re)found someone!

Ilene and SiS, here's an older thread that D_D posted that can give you some background. Figured it was relevant:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=41735

Oh Hi, surprised you remember

ah no it's stuff from 2010. kind of coming back to me. venus retrograde i suppose

[StillOne]

Originally Posted by dear_darkness

Oh Hi, surprised you remember

How could I forget?

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by StillOne

How could I forget?

you should have. wait, you had venus conj. neptune or was it someone else?

[StillOne]

Originally Posted by dear_darkness

you should have. wait, you had venus conj. neptune or was it someone else?

I do. Reviewing the other thread brought that back to light. Thinking of starting a thread on it...

[dear_darkness]

Originally Posted by StillOne

I do. Reviewing the other thread brought that back to light. Thinking of starting a thread on it...

Kim Gordon has natal venus conj. neptune, btw. an interesting case, to say the least. and she has venus opp. saturn too (yet got herself a man 5 years younger and uber-talented)