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05-04-2012, 07:27 PM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
I thought about what some of you said, about how the exhalted planet suites in a sign: Moon in Taurus who is rational and stabile, for example. Or Saturn in an airy Libra being too legere. I thought about Virgo beening not so sexual-oriented, but much more cerebral. So I put Pluto in this sign. Pluto is also scientific mentality and the capacity to see precisely and deeply. Also the gliphs of Virgo and Scorpio are in some way similar, but Scorpio having an arrow (Mars-sex).
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05-04-2012, 07:36 PM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
The planets known to rule Capricorn and Aquarius are Saturn and Uranus, two planetary bodies combined represents the two adjacent signs all for science, reform, reason, experience, academics and withstanding time. But honestly, Mars can help out Aquarius, so does Mercury which appears in one of the air signs: Gemini, and the obsessive-complusive nature of Neptune in relation to adjacent sign Pisces as well with Sagittarius. And the Sun as a detriment to Aquarius plus the Moon in my natal Aquarius yet is ruling my ascendant Cancer gives off an ecliptic shine (for me, that is).
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  or   , I have the same ruling planets:  Uranus and  Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries  in the MC and Venus was her name!
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05-04-2012, 10:11 PM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
I've read many times here that Mercury is exalted in Virgo, I have seen most anywhere else that Mercury is exalted in Aquarius. Virgo would be a limiting place for that planet, being Aquarius a more universal, open minded and altruistic sign would give Mercury the right environment to give best use to its resources and qualities.
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05-04-2012, 10:30 PM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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I've read many times here that Mercury is exalted in Virgo, I have seen most anywhere else that Mercury is exalted in Aquarius. Virgo would be a limiting place for that planet, being Aquarius a more universal, open minded and altruistic sign would give Mercury the right environment to give best use to its resources and qualities.
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I don't know where the 'exaltation' of Mercury in Aquarius arises from. It is not in any of the traditional material I've ever read.
The sign that nearest fits the bill for 'universal, open minded and altruistic' in my mind would be Pisces, which is Mercury's fall.
Mercury does do well in the signs of Saturn, due to the friendship between them.
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05-05-2012, 12:17 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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Question as title really. What do you reckon?
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Mars denotes our energy, our drive and how we work and Capricorn is often the workaholic, ambitious and driven. It is rather strange I agree when youi consider Mars rules Aries which is in square to Capricorn so in that way it tends to confuse. I just tend not to take much notice of the terminology and look at the aspects on their own merits.
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05-05-2012, 12:19 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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I don't know where the 'exaltation' of Mercury in Aquarius arises from. It is not in any of the traditional material I've ever read.
The sign that nearest fits the bill for 'universal, open minded and altruistic' in my mind would be Pisces, which is Mercury's fall.
Mercury does do well in the signs of Saturn, due to the friendship between them.
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Aquarius as an air sign is the higher expression of Mercury as it rules genius and ideas for the betterment of humankind. Inventions, technologies and sciences are all under Aquarius.
What are the signs of Saturn?? Why would Mercury be connected there? Traditional astrology ignores the major outer planets
and has the wrong planets assigned to Aquarius, Pisces and Scorpio. The only reason Mercury rules two signs, right now, Gemini and Virgo is that Virgo's planet may be unrecognised or has exploded. Earth is more likely proper ruler of Taurus and not Venus. In my opinion.
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05-05-2012, 12:38 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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What are the signs of Saturn?? Why would Mercury be connected there?
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Indian astrology has a system of relationships between planets that I find very useful in understanding how well a planet functions in various signs, and in various aspectual relationships.
Here's a good introduction to the concept:
http://matthewastrology.blogspot.co....d-enemies.html
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Traditional astrology ignores the major outer planets and has the wrong planets assigned to Aquarius, Pisces and Scorpio. The only reason Mercury rules two signs, right now, Gemini and Virgo is that Virgo's planet may be unrecognised or has exploded. Earth is more likely proper ruler of Taurus and not Venus. In my opinion.
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It's rather contentious to simply call them 'wrong'.
You could say; "I have extensively compared use of traditional rulers with modern, and prefer modern". I can respect a statement like that.
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05-05-2012, 07:15 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
Claire19,
Mars doesn't rule just Aries, but also Scorpio, do you remember? And there is a sextile beetween Scorpio and Capricorn.
Mars means energy and aggressivity, ambition and both signs are so. But in Scorpio there is a deep connection with passion and sexuality, which is not present in Capricorn.
Otherwise, Virgo can't be ruled and both the place of exhaltation of Mercury. It is a nonsense. The ancient astrologers did't know the slowest planets so they made a mistake.
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05-05-2012, 01:46 PM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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I don't know where the 'exaltation' of Mercury in Aquarius arises from. It is not in any of the traditional material I've ever read.
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I did a bit of digging and discovered a couple of articles crediting one Martin Seymour-Smith for originating this claim.
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07-03-2012, 06:49 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
With exception to probably say, the first 5-7 responses on this thread, every other response has been either way too off course and/or completely irrelevant. The question has to do with why MARS is considered exalted in Capricorn.
I believe someone answered that within the first 5-7 responses: Capricorn is concerned about control and carefully planning out strategies and you need that type of discipline to wrangle the naturally trigger-happy Mars. There.
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07-03-2012, 08:45 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
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Ptolemy tells us that Mars is exalted in Capricorn because it is the most Southern sign and Mars delights in the southern winds.
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I'm almost completely ignorant about the Hellenistic 'winds'. What would that mean in practical terms? I don't feel like hitting the texts right now :lazy:
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07-03-2012, 11:01 AM
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Re: Why is Mars exalted in Capricorn
A friend shared this link
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/centiloquium2.html
In the footnotes, there is an explanation for the exaltations. (#3)
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