do you i have any disease?

[tiesuvas]

i don't feel well and i need to know if i have any physical disease.

i thought about the question whether i have a physical disease and if i do, what disease do i have and then i put the time i thought about it in my horary

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i appreciate any replies

[Anachiel]

Hello there;

Natal astrology is not my forte. However, I have to say that if you suspect that something is wrong, you really do need to see a medical specialist. Astrology can not replace sound medical advice. You need to know what you are working with. Astrologers cannot act in the stead of a medical doctor.

For future reference, you can find how to post a horary here:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...trology_boards

best wishes

Originally Posted by tiesuvas

i don't feel well and i need to know if i have any physical disease.

i thought about the question whether i have a physical disease and if i do, what disease do i have and then i put the time i thought about it in my horary

http://alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/pics/2456038493781.gif

i appreciate any replies

[dr. farr]

I second Anachiel's good advice: first get a physical checkup; then, using astrological methods, finding out more fundamental, causal energetic underlying influences can be investigated...;

[tiesuvas]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

I second Anachiel's good advice: first get a physical checkup; then, using astrological methods, finding out more fundamental, causal energetic underlying influences can be investigated...;

i've already got a physical checkup and they haven't found anything yet. i will have some tests but only in 1 and a half months,they are busy.

please delineate my horary, do i have any physical disease and if i do, what physical disease do i have?

[Vista]

Originally Posted by tiesuvas

i've already got a physical checkup and they haven't found anything yet. i will have some tests but only in 1 and a half months,they are busy.

please delineate my horary, do i have any physical disease and if i do, what physical disease do i have?

Have you had your thyroid checked? Perhaps a little more details about what your symptoms are would be a good idea. Also, I think you should start a new thread in the read my chart section using your natal chart with transits and progressions. Be sure to state you have been to the doctor for a check-up and are awaiting results. Mer rules the 6th of health and Libra is intercepted. Sun and Moon are via combusta, not good and in the house of hidden matters. Mercury is there too, something is hidden. Moon is also opposing Saturn placed in the 6th, so I do see you are worried. Venus, your ASC ruler is in Gemini and Jupiter also Conjuncts your ASC which leads me to believe you will be ok.

[Anachiel]

I'm sorry but I am not a doctor. If I was then I may have the knowledge to know every possible disease that you may have. But, since I do not have that knowedge of physical diseases and disorders of the body, I do not have a frame of reference in which to frame or read the horary.

Your situation is best handled by those with medical expertise.

[tiesuvas]

Originally Posted by Vista

Have you had your thyroid checked? Perhaps a little more details about what your symptoms are would be a good idea. Also, I think you should start a new thread in the read my chart section using your natal chart with transits and progressions. Be sure to state you have been to the doctor for a check-up and are awaiting results. Mer rules the 6th of health and Libra is intercepted. Sun and Moon are via combusta, not good and in the house of hidden matters. Mercury is there too, something is hidden. Moon is also opposing Saturn placed in the 6th, so I do see you are worried. Venus, your ASC ruler is in Gemini and Jupiter also Conjuncts your ASC which leads me to believe you will be ok.

do i have any disease though? what disease do i have?

i generally don't feel well, headaches, dizziness sometimes etc.

[dr. farr]

We cannot say if you have, or don't have, a specific, conventionally denominated disease: ONLY direct physical examination by a qualified diagnostician can determine this. To say one can make a conventional medical diagnosis at a distance, without examining and testing a person (or animal) is ridiculous.

However, we CAN determine underlying subtle energetic CAUSAL influences, trends and susceptibilities using astrological methods: this is NOT the same as saying astrology can make conventional medical diagnoses, which, would be a false statement. But by understanding the ROOT energetic CAUSAL state of the person's (or animal's) fundamental subtle energy field, we can determine what imbalances, susceptibilities, might be present, and, moreso, determine non-drug energy remedies to correct those energetic imbalances.

OP says she feels unwell: ok, then for us, YES, there is an energetic imbalance present-even though the doctors consulted have found nothing wrong (why? because conventional medicine does NOT recognize the subtle energetic field and the susceptibilities to illness often indicated by imbalances in that field)

Now, does the reference horary chart suggest that there is something out of balance here?

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

Yes:
-querent = 1st house = Taurus = Venus
-6th house (indicator of potential health imbalances) = Libra = Venus
-Venus represents querent and querent's potential health imbalance
-Venus is posited in Gemini IN THE SIGN OF THE SOUTH NODE
-this clearly indicates imbalance affecting the querent because querent's significator is polluted by being sign/conjunct with the SN
-querent/6th house significator Venus is disposited by Mercury: Mercury is in the 12th house of the chart, indicating restrictions, problems, etc, being a definite possibility
-Mercury in the 12th house is in Aries, pointing to the head region as being potentially an energetic seat of imbalance
-Mars, lord of the 12th house and dispositor of Mercury, is in Virgo, so Mars and Mercury are in mutual reception: Mars can indicate a degree of inflammation or irritation; Virgo is affinitive (energetically) to the intestinal tract: so Mars here might indicate the intestinal tract as yet another energetic seat of imbalance (along with the head, as indicated potentially by Mercury in Aries)
-elementally considered, lord of the ascending sign, Venus, is diposited by Mercury which in turn is posited in Aries: so, since Mercury = earth element and Aries = fire element, we could say that the elemental basis of the energetic imbalance is of a fire/earth elemental quality, and would need to be balanced by air and water elements. Since the 10th house (the remedy or treatment suggestive house) is under Aquarius, which is an air sign, this would underscore the need especially for correction of the air element in this case.

[tiesuvas]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

Now, does the reference horary chart suggest that there is something out of balance here?

(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

Yes:
-querent = 1st house = Taurus = Venus
-6th house (indicator of potential health imbalances) = Libra = Venus
-Venus represents querent and querent's potential health imbalance
-Venus is posited in Gemini IN THE SIGN OF THE SOUTH NODE
-this clearly indicates imbalance affecting the querent because querent's significator is polluted by being sign/conjunct with the SN
-querent/6th house significator Venus is disposited by Mercury: Mercury is in the 12th house of the chart, indicating restrictions, problems, etc, being a definite possibility
-Mercury in the 12th house is in Aries, pointing to the head region as being potentially an energetic seat of imbalance
-Mars, lord of the 12th house and dispositor of Mercury, is in Virgo, so Mars and Mercury are in mutual reception: Mars can indicate a degree of inflammation or irritation; Virgo is affinitive (energetically) to the intestinal tract: so Mars here might indicate the intestinal tract as yet another energetic seat of imbalance (along with the head, as indicated potentially by Mercury in Aries)
-elementally considered, lord of the ascending sign, Venus, is diposited by Mercury which in turn is posited in Aries: so, since Mercury = earth element and Aries = fire element, we could say that the elemental basis of the energetic imbalance is of a fire/earth elemental quality, and would need to be balanced by air and water elements. Since the 10th house (the remedy or treatment suggestive house) is under Aquarius, which is an air sign, this would underscore the need especially for correction of the air element in this case.

how do i correct the air element?

[Aquarius358]

Originally Posted by tiesuvas

i don't feel well and i need to know if i have any physical disease.
i thought about the question whether i have a physical disease and if i do, what disease do i have and then i put the time i thought about it in my horary
i appreciate any replies

I’m using Regiomontanus House System as recommended by William Lilly, using traditional horary astrology guidelines in his text on horary, Christian Astrology CA245-253:

1 ruler Venus signifies you - is in Gemini and is in the 2nd House, not well dignified and peregrine which suggests you are ‘lost and wandering’ in this matter - and which is probably how you feel : at a loss to understand what’s going on. From the position of the Sun and Moon and 6 ruler in the 12th House, I’d say you were very fearful and overwhelmed (Moon approaching combustion) about what is wrong with you - and being dizzy is certainly not a very nice symptom! It can be most disorienting.

The chart shows that whatever is wrong with you is NOT a terminal illness - there’s reception between you and 8 ruler and no aspect. Also, 1 ruler Venus is stronger in dignities than 6 ruler illness - which is a good sign that you will ‘overcome’ whatever it is.

Your ill health problem is signified by Mercury, ruler of the 6th House which is in the 12th - & Mercury rules the head - which is reasonable, since you’re suffering dizziness.

The Sign of Taurus on ASC also points to the neck. A pinched nerve here could cause headaches and/or dizziness. If you don’t breathe properly due to stress, then dizziness can result from that, too.

Mercury (the illness) and Mars (7 ruler, the doctor) receive each other by mutual reception - so the doctor will be able to provide help. A Rx Saturn in the 6th signifies the medication or cure (as 10 ruler)& is opposed by the Moon - do you not want to be medicated? Rx Saturn in the 6th also indicates the right ear (or the area around the right ear, down the neck) may have something to do with the problem.

Your health problem is not going to be something that goes on forever and ever ... Virgo (6 ruler) is not a Fixed Sign - it’s mutable and Lilly says this indicates a health problem that is not very long lasting but may return. Saturn Rx in the 6th supports this.

The greater benefic Jupiter in Taurus in your 1st, so close to the ASC, gives some help - especially since, at 17 degrees, Jupiter is in his own Term here. In fact, Jupiter is the strongest planet in the chart - which is radical, by the way.
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Perhaps you could think about these questions : Has your blood pressure been checked? Is it OK or too low/high? Do you get nauseous with the dizziness? Do you suffer from migraine headaches? Do you drink sufficient water? Do you have a history of tension in the neck muscles?

A non-horary, personal suggestion: perhaps you could ask the doctor (or a specialist) to check your inner ear because dizziness can be a symptom of Vertigo - of which there are many many different varieties - but which can often be cured. I’m only suggesting this - not defining your illness as such, mind you! You could Google it to see if your symptoms are similar. If I were your mum, (!!) I’d also suggest you seek out an Osteopath to check the neck area.

Best wishes.___

[Aquarius358]

In response to your PM -

I can't verify if 9 ruler in the 6th could mean poisoning.

Moon opposing Saturn in the 6th House is significant, though, I agree. We ignore Saturn at our peril!

This is what Lilly says about Saturn and Libra and Taurus in Christian Astrology (which you can download, free, from the skyscript website):

TAURUS : Diseases in the neck and throat, having their beginning in melancholy (depression) - or glandular. [I think someone mentioned thyroid before?? Thyroid deficiencies can be preceded or associated with diziness. Mention this to your doctor next time you go, to get the results of your tests. The thyroid gland is centre neck at the base of the head.]

SATURN : Noise or rumblings in the right ear and head ... melancholic infirmities, 'ileac passion' (a disease with pain in the abdomen); vomiting and spasm of abdominal muscles, fluid retention, lung congestion or catarrh ... pain in the bones ... including the teeth.

LIBRA : Kidney stones, excesses of eating or drinking ... 'heat in the back'.

Y'know, Moon opposing Saturn could mean teeth problems - some kind of infection which is causing referred troubles. A dentist would clear up any problems there. ___________

[tiesuvas]

Originally Posted by Aquarius358

In response to your PM -

I can't verify if 9 ruler in the 6th could mean poisoning.

Moon opposing Saturn in the 6th House is significant, though, I agree. We ignore Saturn at our peril!

This is what Lilly says about Saturn and Libra and Taurus in Christian Astrology (which you can download, free, from the skyscript website):

TAURUS : Diseases in the neck and throat, having their beginning in melancholy (depression) - or glandular. [I think someone mentioned thyroid before?? Thyroid deficiencies can be preceded or associated with diziness. Mention this to your doctor next time you go, to get the results of your tests. The thyroid gland is centre neck at the base of the head.]

SATURN : Noise or rumblings in the right ear and head ... melancholic infirmities, 'ileac passion' (a disease with pain in the abdomen); vomiting and spasm of abdominal muscles, fluid retention, lung congestion or catarrh ... pain in the bones ... including the teeth.

LIBRA : Kidney stones, excesses of eating or drinking ... 'heat in the back'.

Y'know, Moon opposing Saturn could mean teeth problems - some kind of infection which is causing referred troubles. A dentist would clear up any problems there. ___________

mercury 6th is in aries and intercepted in 12th
do you use intercepted rulers or houses? venus intercepted 6th is in 2nd

A Rx Saturn in the 6th signifies the medication or cure (as 10 ruler)& is opposed by the Moon - do you not want to be medicated?

does 9th and 10th ruler in 6th mean poisoning?
does it mean i will be poisoned if i will take the medication or cure, or am i already poisoned?

i appreciate your reply

[tikana]

hey

how about going to the doctor's for annual checkup?

T

[Aquarius358]

Originally Posted by tiesuvas

mercury 6th is in aries and intercepted in 12th
do you use intercepted rulers or houses? venus intercepted 6th is in 2nd

No.


does 9th and 10th ruler in 6th mean poisoning?
I have already answered this in the above post.

does it mean i will be poisoned if i will take the medication or cure, or am i already poisoned? I've already answered this - no, neither.

i appreciate your reply

I've answered your questions as best I can. Please take the time to read them carefully if you're interested in medical astrology. Given that Lilly's Christian Astrology is FREELY available, I suggest you could do your own research. If you don't want to do that, I suggest you seek some help from professional medical people. ___________