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Old 04-15-2012, 05:46 AM
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Trayvon Martin should be remembered as a happy, smiling teenager, says his soft-spoken older brother adding that Martin, 17, was an honors student The older brother said he was confused by the circumstances. It doesn't sound like my brother at all. He wasn't confrontational or violent." The evidence and 911 tapes indicated Martin "tried to get away from the situation. He wasn't violent. For him to actually jump on someone he doesn't even know, to me that's not him. He's smarter than that."

Fulton said he wants to see changes in Florida's "stand your ground" laws, "Someone shouldn't be able to murder someone and walk away," said Fulton.

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Is an horary appropriate for this?
What were his ( zimmerman) true thoughts? did he want to kill?
4/14/12
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if you can post chart on horary, claudette ~ on page @ 63% ~ we can look at that, as well. (i can't post charts on phone).
J.A. ~ State of Florida is in full on prophylactic damage-control over this. If you want to see how matters of race are still treated in Southern U.S., i suggest you follow this for the long or short hall.
zimmerman might turn out to be our own tunisian street vendor. in terms of revolution.
the victim's story is never heard. and many blind eyes and ears listen to and see what remains.
some might argue that florida's law initself is used to justify fearful racist killers.
trayvon martin is the battle, not the war.
and here is where the united states 14th amendment (?) comes into play...
u.s. government over states.
anyone who didn't envision President Obama as a catalyst for change got lost in the shuffle.
we can no longer pretend, prohibit or circumvent certain american truths.
the s*hit is gonna hit the fan.
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If Zimmerman feared for his life then why did he get out of his truck where he was safer? If he was treated for a broken nose where's the blood and black eyes? Surveillance video of George Zimmerman being led into police precinct showed no obvious injury noticeable

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17yrs old Trayvon Martin was ‘missing’ for three days (lying unidentified - labelled as a "John Doe" in the morgue) while his family searched for him BUT police had his personal information (as is seen in the image on attachment to this post) from the day of the murder - thus raising the instance of ‘aiding and abetting and concealing’ murder within the department.George Zimmerman may have received favorable treatment because his father is a retired Supreme Court Magistrate and his mother was a court clerk. Might this also explain why George Zimmerman’s record includes three “closed arrests”?

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QUOTE FROM NEWS REPORTS: A 5 year old, Stockton California student, was handcuffed with zip ties on his hands and feet, forced to go to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation and was charged with battery on a police officer A juvenile court judge eventually dismissed the battery charges against Michael - 28 November 2011

George Zimmerman was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence a felony charge that could have landed him in prison BUT all three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the privileged son of a retired Virginia Supreme Court Magistrate Judge
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I just saw your post, MaeMae, will attach the chart. I would guess the moderator will move it to Horary, though, but hopefully leave it here, also as there non-horary comments I'd like to add.

I liked your comment about the Tasmanian street vendor-not everyone knows the "Arab Spring" started with him.

Re: Standing your ground: wasn't his SUV Zimmerman's "ground?' He's NEVER said that Trayvon approached him. Thank God there is the police dispatch tapes, where's he's instructed to not follow Trayvon. Also, wasn't it against watch policy for them to be armed? Good question: how could he get a concealed weapon permit with his record?

Did the police really wait 3 days to notify his family!Unconscionable, unbelievable. This is all going to come back and bite them hard.I'm glad it caame out that he's an honor student-depletes even more the racist portrayal of him as a possible robbery suspect or whatever.

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I just saw your post, MaeMae, will attach the chart. I would guess the moderator will move it to Horary, though, but hopefully leave it here, also as there non-horary comments I'd like to add.

I liked your comment about the Tasmanian street vendor-not everyone knows the "Arab Spring" started with him.

Re: Standing your ground: wasn't his SUV Zimmerman's "ground?' He's NEVER said that Trayvon approached him. Thank God there is the police dispatch tapes, where's he's instructed to not follow Trayvon. Also, wasn't it against watch policy for them to be armed? Good question: how could he get a concealed weapon permit with his record?

Did the police really wait 3 days to notify his family!Unconscionable, unbelievable. This is all going to come back and bite them hard.I'm glad it came out that he's an honor student-depletes even more the racist portrayal of him as a possible robbery suspect or whatever.

I'll really be interested to read the horary comments-where ever they end up.
Some say that it was during those three days a cover-up was organised because it would have been inconvenient for the Media to interview Trayvon Martin's parents before George Zimmerman and family got their "story alibi" word perfect.

George Zimmerman was allowed to roam free for four or five weeks before eventually being charged with second degree murder BUT police found it necessary to handcuff a six year old girl and drive her to the police station because she had a tantrum while at school http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le4LNp330oQ
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that's what the good ol' boys and girls call "Southern Justice" ~
You see, the Cubanos and Jewish (in Florida) who are darker or different, got their own things going on.
Why the Jews in Florida aren't vocal over this?
Because they are putting money and political power quietly behind it to end this stuff. The Cuban's? The Spanish white ones? They got a free ride and want to keep it that way. The African descent ones? They are shouting out.
This is not ending soon. U.S. is about to attack racism full on.
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Google Earth map shows the distance George Zimmerman pursued Trayvon Martin before 'killing in self-defense'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUqUG...eature=related

Retired Judge Robert Zimmerman interviewed as the father of George Zimmerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVbTF...eature=related

Joe Oliver Exposed As Fraud - Not Close Friend Of George Zimmerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PrQ...eature=related

George Zimmerman's website collected about $204,000 in donations, undisclosed during his bond hearing last week. Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said Zimmerman's failure to reveal that he had money shows he is being dishonest. "If his testimony at the bond hearing is any indication of what is to come, then the lying has already begun," Crump said. "This is going to say a lot about whether Trayvon Martin can get a fair trial. If Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. doesn't revoke his bond, the court should severely sanction him so George Zimmerman understands you cannot lie to the court."

Separately, the attorney said the Martin family has raised less than $100,000 to date, and that the money will go toward the Trayvon Martin Foundation. Crump said his firm will not collect a fee "If we collect any money, it will be from a civil lawsuit and not from any donor money," he said.
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the civil lawsuit herementioned should be leveled against state of florida.
zimmerman is one of hundreds of thousands who freely walk florida streets and roads.
the stand your ground defense was a patsy-abused-woman's law meant to allow racist killings.

zimmerman didn't back off because he was premeditating a confrontation knowing he had a weapon to back him up. he didn't back away and leave even though law enforcement instructed him.
he wasn't going in to save a human life, he had full intention to take one.
now he's crying the blues.
anybody who questions his sociopathic lies and the lies his family has told, should question themselves first.
don't for a moment think zimmerman didn't know he had the law of florida behind him when he took that young man's life.

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JupAsc, thanks for posting those links. So Zimmerman did travel quite a distance before Trayvon was shot-somewhere around 800-1000feet? To begin with, wasn't "his ground" his SUV?

Brother. Zimmerman "forgot" to mention to his lawyers he had raised $200,000 on his website, then pleaded down the bail. (And you have to wonder who was sending in money for his defense fund.) Under what conditions could the judge re-set bail? Isn't deception enough reason? Isn't bail 10% of bond, so at 1 mil he easily had bail?

Yuck. I need a shower. This is clearly going to be a historical trial.

Well hurray for the Martin's lawyer who is doing it pro bono. At best he's earning good karma points by doing the right thing. I do hope his firm eventually gets some funds, for they clearly are going to have huge expenses and lost income from cases they have to refuse. Good on them.

It will be intesting to follow the astrology here.
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JupAsc, thanks for posting those links.
That's ok - here's another two interesting articles http://johnbenneth.wordpress.com/201...y-of-violence/

How did George Zimmerman come to be carrying a gun that fateful night? ....because Florida’s gun laws allowed him, despite his arrest record and history of violence. In Florida, being armed in public is such a casual formality that law enforcement does not issue licenses to carry a loaded, concealed gun; that is done by the Department of Agriculture – the same agency that issues permits to pick tomatoes http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...ermans-arrest/


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So Zimmerman did travel quite a distance before Trayvon was shot-somewhere around 800-1000feet? To begin with, wasn't "his ground" his SUV?
Exactly claudette! Zimmerman nevertheless felt sufficiently safe to pursue Trayvon Martin a considerable distance and THEN "shoot him in self defense" - even though Trayvon Martin, on the advice of his girlfriend who he had phoned - was running away to get home safe and evade the unwanted stalker Zimmerman...
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Brother. Zimmerman "forgot" to mention to his lawyers he had raised $200,000 on his website, then pleaded down the bail. (And you have to wonder who was sending in money for his defense fund.) Under what conditions could the judge re-set bail? Isn't deception enough reason? Isn't bail 10% of bond, so at 1 mil he easily had bail?
A mere $15,000 allowed George Zimmerman to walk free - a luxury which Zimmerman refused to allow to innocent teen Trayvon Martin.
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Yuck. I need a shower.

This is clearly going to be a historical trial.

Well hurray for the Martin's lawyer who is doing it pro bono. At best he's earning good karma points by doing the right thing. I do hope his firm eventually gets some funds, for they clearly are going to have huge expenses and lost income from cases they have to refuse. Good on them.
Zimmerman's new lawyer Mark O'Mara is obviously focused on the potentially huge income he can expect from defending...

In contrast
Martin's lawyers are genuine good people without whom the case may not even have got this far

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It will be interesting to follow the astrology here.
Times of birth are notoriously inaccurate, but nevertheless 'twould be great to have those in order to examine the astrology of the two charts in question with any clarity claudette.

IMO 9/10 November 2012 and thereabouts may well prove to be an important day for George Zimmerman - that's when he has a Saturn Return
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wonder if his saturn return will collide with florida's saturn ~ hunching that uranus and pluto (revealers of truth) will show their brutality on this one.
in L.A. past week, so many efforts to polarize trayvon/rodney king similarities into mayhem.
but L.A. learned hard that when we take down others, we are taking down ourselves.
the george zimm's and lapd's across nation are wise to pay heed, should they fall under the crush of enevitable truths unless.
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wonder if his saturn return will collide with florida's saturn.
MaeMae which Florida chart are you using?

UPDATE

NEW WITNESS WATCHED BOTH MEN STRUGGLE ON THE GROUND AS THE GUN WENT OFF
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New Witness in the Trayvon Martin case speaks to CNN's Anderson Cooper on AC360. He says both men were on the ground and he watched them struggle as the gun went off. The witness also says he thinks the shooter, George Zimmerman, was on top of Trayvon and that Zimmerman didn't appear hurt.

Circa: April 2012. MSNBC Takes a look at the controversial shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMu-ZMkLfwQ
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Incredible.... George Zimmerman's Lawyers Now Claiming 'Shaken Baby Syndrome' Defense

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i haven't seen a chart for florida. just wondering if/how zimmerman figures into their come-uppance on this law. i also wonder how many other people in florida have been killed and justice discarded under the stand your ground law.
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i haven't seen a chart for florida. just wondering if/how zimmerman figures into their come-uppance on this law. i also wonder how many other people in florida have been killed and justice discarded under the stand your ground law.
I found these charts for Florida and am checking on the USA Charts thread what the experts think is 'the' Florida Chart.

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what is transiting saturn doing in florida's chart and how invested in its placement is it? and what relation to natal saturn?
who in Florida's chart is fighting transiting saturn in florida's chart?
Where is Florida's natal merc and neptune in relation to transiting Saturn.
Uranus already happened, so it should be evidenced.
Pluto is the one to watch in the end.
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IMO it is significant that George Zimmerman is due a Saturn Return at the end of the year approximately
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yes, jupiter, you previously noted that.
do you think that florida is at question?
something bigger here operating in the state's conspiracy of racism than this one event?
george zimmerman is no different than lee harvey oswald. the floridian (remember bush-gore election?) conspiracy behind this event is at question more than the individual.
google increase in non-challenged homicides in florida since law passed and look at who's been killed with no justice thereafter.
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Some say Florida has Sun Pisces, Moon Capricorn

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trans pluto on florida's moon? neptune on sun? can't read specs/degrees on my phone, but certainly
denial of intent as well @ssburning on all things held dear (racism) makes sense in my mind.
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No definite time of birth as yet

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17-year-old Trayvon Martin murder case Judge denied a prosecution motion for a gag order, but noted the court could reconsider if attorneys in the case write or say anything considered prejudicial. The decision which was made public Tuesday rejects, among other things, prosecutor concerns over lack of juror impartiality due to amount of media coverage surrounding the high-profile case. "The case should be tried in the courtroom and not in the media," the motion read. But Judge Lester wrote that the attorneys had so far represented "the utmost in professionalism in their public statements," and ruled against the motion.


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Inconsistencies in Trayvon Martin case CNN news http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...iref=allsearch
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CNN discussion of newly released evidence on the Trayvon Martin Murder charges http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...iref=allsearch
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Re: Trayvon Martin Unarmed Teen Killed - CCTV of George Zimmerman in Police Station

Zimmerman's bond revoked & he has 48 hours to surrender - source: CNN 2 June 2012

91 WORD QUOTE FROM ONLINE NEWS http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/01/ju...html?hpt=hp_t3

"Seminole County Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ordered Zimmerman to surrender to county sheriff no later than Sunday afternoon.

'The defense, through Mrs. Zimmerman under oath, lied to this court,' said trial prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.
... the couple 'spoke in code to hide what they were doing' regarding money donated by members of the public .....Zimmerman 'fully controlled and participated in the transfer of money from PayPal account....This occurred prior to when defendant was arguing to court that he was indigent and his wife had no money"
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