Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > General Astrology > Predictive Astrology > Progressions

Progressions For discussions on secondary progressions in predictive astrology.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-31-2009, 01:52 PM
cutesag cutesag is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 23
progressed MC

Hi everyone!

I've been looking for info on progressed MC in the signs and really I haven't found anything!!


Last edited by cutesag; 05-11-2012 at 02:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-31-2009, 02:07 PM
cassanra's Avatar
cassanra cassanra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,272
Re: progressed MC

Your progressed AC would give different outward expressing energies. I am not sure the progressed MC (representing authority, public) would have you chatty. It may infer more writing? or increased communication in your work as one possibility.
I looked back to my last change in MC which was 20 years ago. That few years I was graduating from college. The MC moved from Capricorn to Aquarius (social). I was looking for my first job, moved to another state, found my first real job and began my career thus it might be connected to that....so interestingly enough 10 years from now MC will progress into Pisces. I do not plan on retiring for another 15 or so but maybe that shows that trend of compassion and change in that energy.
__________________
Cassandra
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-22-2009, 10:05 AM
Gogolesque
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: progressed MC

2 friends of mine moved abroad when their MC progressed into Sag
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-26-2009, 11:58 PM
Lynda Lynda is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1
Re: progressed MC

Did your friends move overseas because of work commitments?

I am hoping that my change of progressed MC coming up very soon is related to my finding another job.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-02-2009, 09:51 PM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Greetings cutesag. I interpret chart axis with Sabian Symbolic interpretation.
By this technique the Asc., Desc., I.C. and M.C. represent the WHO, WHERE-TO, HOW and WHY of your existence.
This Chart Axis analysis is your 'War Strategy' for life to use an asimile. Thus a progressed charts axis analysis by the same method produces your 'current battle plan' to make anoher asimile in the same vein of understanding.
As I understand your current M.C. to be in the 30th degree of Taurus [note: anything past 29* 00' 00" is in the 30th degree of a sign] then your current M.C., the WHY of your current situation is represented by this degree Sabian Symbolically. HOW you are to achieve this is by applying the symbolism of the I.C. that is the 30th degree of Scorpio.
Check the current Part of Fortune, Part of Sudden Advancement and the Part of Catastrophe symbolically too, to know what to do in addition and what to avoid doing.
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-04-2009, 12:36 PM
The_Sundance_Kid's Avatar
The_Sundance_Kid The_Sundance_Kid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London UK
Posts: 523
Re: progressed MC

I think that if the MC show's our aspirations, basically what we can take our chart and strive to achieve with it, then a progression will show a change in aspiration.

So while before you thought it was worthwhile to achieve something Taurean, now maybe Gemini-related aspirations might seem more obvious to you, to supplement your natural Taurean ones. That is the very least that is supposed to happen- everything the others said might also happen!

My MC just progressed from Virgo to Libra, so I will keep you posted if I note any changes. Maybe I'll learn to be more sloppy as long as the overall look is good. That's professionalism
__________________
*Witty Comment*
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-05-2009, 02:08 PM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag
Hi piercethevale

Thanks for your insight. I looked at the natal and progressed angle symbols:

Natal MC: 26-27 deg Aries
Through Imagination A Lost Opportunity Is Regained

Natal AC: 7-8 deg Leo
A Communist Activist Spreading His Revolutionary Ideals

Natal IC: 26-27 deg Libra
An Airplane Sails, High In The Clear Sky

Natal DC: 7-8 deg Aquarius
Beautifully Gowned Wax Figures On Display

Prog MC: 29-30 deg Taurus
A Peacock Parading On The Terrace Of An Old Castle
moving to: 0-1 deg Gemini
A Glass-Bottomed Boat Reveals Undersea Wonders

Prog AC: 3-4 deg Virgo
Black And White Children Play Together Happily
moving to: 4-5 deg Virgo
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

Prog IC: 29-30 deg Scorpio
Children In Halloween Costumes Indulge In Various Pranks moving to: 0-1 deg Sagittarius

Retired Army Veterans Gather To Reawaken Old Memories

Prog DC: 3-4 deg Pisces
Heavy Car Traffic On A Narrow Isthmus Linking Two Seashore Resorts
moving to: 4-5 deg Pisces
A Church Bazaar

I'm not sure how to interpret all this. Do you know a site where I can see the interpretation?

Thanks
Sag

Cutesag, I would interpret thus: Your prog. Asc. is about becoming aware of the fact that there is/has been 'Spiritual' guidance and intervention all along...that even in your most desolate of mements you were never alone...that there 'Are no accidents' in life', that everything has been for a reason...leading you to your prog. Desc...in that once you understand that this guidance and intervention has been there all along, that life is 'ritualized benificence' [Dane Rudhyars' words for Pisces 5*] when you live it as our creator intends you to.
The prog. I.C. at Sag. 01* indicated to me that when you realize and re-affirm that there is a 'War' going on on Earth and etherically around us between those that bow to the light and those that bow to the darkness you will achieve a state where some of the 'mysteries' you seek answers to will be revealed.
I know of nobook that attempts to interpret all the possible Sabian combinations in this manner as perscribed by Rudhyar. All interpretations must be looked at afresh by each recipient, meditated upon and applied in context to their own life and situation.
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-05-2009, 02:41 PM
starnoud
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: progressed MC

I love this subject, the progressed MC. Maybe because my natal Sun , ruler of MC in Leo, is conjunct Northnode and Saturn ? I think so, because 'the position in the world' keeps me busy all my life (thank you Northnode, not LOL).

And I love to look closer to the Sabian Symbols here, as well.

The MC is really something that 'shows' in our lifes, therefore my Virgo Moon agrees with the idea (I just got !) to write a book or whatever about the MC.
Anyway, I hope this thread about the MC and progressed MC will become a big one, and I am intending to keep posting on this line. This MC thingy is really worth the attention when it comes to practical astrology. For those who not always want to get involved with the psychological blah blah hehe

I want to end this one (for now) , by saying that I will always look at what the ruler of the MC or progressed MC sign is doing. And I wont stop talking about that either. It's funny how i sometimes (or was it often) found the ruler of MC-x to be conjunct the ruler of Progressed MC-x , at the moment when the change (into the next sign) took place....
.... so that the change wouldnt be too much of a shock.... right?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-05-2009, 03:16 PM
The_Sundance_Kid's Avatar
The_Sundance_Kid The_Sundance_Kid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: London UK
Posts: 523
Re: progressed MC

Interesting! Maybe my situation might be of interest of you.

My old MC ruler, Mercury is progressing into Sagittarius, it's fall sign, AND is losing its MC rulership. These are bad times for my Mercury, its losing its power. It is also setting off my big Venus-moon Yod thing but that's another thread.

And at the same time Venus is becoming MC ruler, I'm discovering all the reasons it is dignified, in progressions it is direct and returning to its natal. And I'm uncovering its role in my Yod. At the same time the moon is progressing onto my IC and into Aries and so is beginning a new Zodiac cycle.

I think this is a very pivotal and smooth transition of power from Mercury to Venus, will try to re-connect with her
__________________
*Witty Comment*
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-05-2009, 08:24 PM
starnoud
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: progressed MC

Glad you like it Cutesag.
I just thought , let's see what 'happened' when my MC changed. So I had to go back to 1997, have a look
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...yh-u1177533728

It is quite funny: although its not drawn in this chart, in my method I use Vulcan (with another table, it's in a book I have: The new planets Vulcan and Persephone by George Bode) and Vulcan is ruler Virgo there. To be short:
Sun in 18 Taurus (my natal Vertex!??) is kinda conjunct Vulcan in aprox 23 Taurus.
So that's the MC and next MC. Leo and Virgo. But there is more: I checked the IC as well and guess what....
Old IC Aquarius (in my system Priapus ruler) and new IC Pisces (ruler Neptune).... they were exact conjunct ! It's in 25 Scorpio, Neptune and Priapus (the opp of Lilith).

So old and new MC rulers were conjunct at that moment in 1997.
And old and new IC rulers were conjunct as well !! How odd !
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-05-2009, 08:25 PM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Cutesag. As I have been taught and believe that the 12 house cusp is symbolically ones' answer to the problems of the world then a progressed 12th house cusp symbolic interpretation is also worth a glimsp as well as the major Arabic Parts such as Fortune, Catastrophe, Sudden Advancement and Benifits & Increase [$]...it works for me...ptv
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-05-2009, 09:19 PM
starnoud
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: progressed MC

Cutesag, I tried for more than an hour.... can't find your chart or a clear picture (some chart you posted is not very clear to me).
Please let me know ur birthdata.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-05-2009, 09:41 PM
natasa812's Avatar
natasa812 natasa812 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 923
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by piercethevale
Greetings cutesag. I interpret chart axis with Sabian Symbolic interpretation.
By this technique the Asc., Desc., I.C. and M.C. represent the WHO, WHERE-TO, HOW and WHY of your existence.

Check the current Part of Fortune, Part of Sudden Advancement and the Part of Catastrophe symbolically too, to know what to do in addition and what to avoid doing.
Very well spoken as also as simple and practical. Never thought about it in this way. I`ll do it myself too because I am interested in career matters also.

Useful advice
Thank you
Best r
Natasa
__________________
Sun is shining, life is beautiful, feel the calmness...
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-15-2010, 12:45 PM
Lkb273 Lkb273 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 75
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cassanra View Post
Your progressed AC would give different outward expressing energies. I am not sure the progressed MC (representing authority, public) would have you chatty. It may infer more writing? or increased communication in your work as one possibility.
I looked back to my last change in MC which was 20 years ago. That few years I was graduating from college. The MC moved from Capricorn to Aquarius (social). I was looking for my first job, moved to another state, found my first real job and began my career thus it might be connected to that....so interestingly enough 10 years from now MC will progress into Pisces. I do not plan on retiring for another 15 or so but maybe that shows that trend of compassion and change in that energy.
I've just asked a similar question in another thread. My MC is progressing to Gemini, and I just graduated with my bachelors on Sunday, and will start my professional career next Monday. It feels like an exciting/electric energy for me and this new career is definitely something a lot different and more free than what I had been previously doing. Its an exciting time!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-15-2010, 03:10 PM
vanila's Avatar
vanila vanila is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 253
Re: progressed MC

cutesag,

my experience with the change of the sign of the progressed MC...
it has changed sing when I was 12 years old...
I had a period in my life then that was dramatic ....it really changed me and my life direction....but everything is for good....
__________________
.........oh well, the devil makes us sin...but we like it when we're spinning in his grip....love is like a sin, my love....
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:00 AM
Claire19's Avatar
Claire19 Claire19 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 5,767
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Hi everyone!

I've been looking for info on progressed MC in the signs and really I haven't found anything!!

Thing is, recently my progressed AC entered Virgo, progressed sun entered Cap and progressed moon entered scorpio (not sure if in this order ). Anyway, for someone with no earth in birth chart, you can imagine I've been acting very differently of late (grounded, workaholic, and MOODY ).

Now, I find out the progressed MC is at 29 Taurus, so will move to Gemini soon and oppose my natal sun at 2 Sag

I can't find any info on MC in Gemini, but I'd imagine I'll become very chatty and will engage in writing a lot

What do you think? This seems to be imp as progressed MC will oppose natal sun too!!

Sag
By itself a progressed MC is not really effective unless you have a transit that aspects it and your natal MC at the same time. Unless you have Gemini planets, a strong Mercury or 3rd house in your natal chart. you will not likely notice a diference with chattiness, writing, siblings, neighbours, friends or other Gemini things. i.e. unless your natal MC opposes or otherwise aspects your natal Sun in Sagittarius there wont be much effect felt.
__________________
The stars impel, not compel.

Last edited by Claire19; 06-16-2010 at 01:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-14-2011, 06:31 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,183
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Thing is, recently my progressed AC entered Virgo, progressed sun entered Cap and progressed moon entered scorpio (not sure if in this order ) Now, I find out the progressed MC is at 29 Taurus, so will move to Gemini soon and oppose my natal sun at 2 Sag I can't find any info on MC in Gemini, but I'd imagine I'll become very chatty and will engage in writing a lot What do you think? This seems to be imp as progressed MC will oppose natal sun too!! Sag
When a progressed planet changes signs, it represents a significant event... so it's a good idea to be taking notice when your progressed Sun is changing signs.

http://www.alanoken.com/newsletter/J...E%20ZODIAC.pdf
The progressed Midheaven is the MC of the progressed chart. The progressed MC shows us in what way your status or condition is changing. When the sign of the progressed Midheaven changes, there is often a change in perspective or status either at home (because your progressed IC has changed also) or in the career.
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let your food be your medicine: let your medicine be your food. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY red cabbage sliced Equatorially illustrates the Golden Mean Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-15-2011, 11:42 AM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,183
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
txs JUPITERASC, I've looked into your link and it makes sense that changes could could either via MC or IC. I guess I only read about the second one. Since my progressed sun is at 8 CAP, I've had already 8 years of capricornian influence, which I'd say have indeed been more focused on MC than on IC!!! I'll see what happens as my progressed MC/IC axis approaches 2 GEM/SAG

Do you know if Alan Oken has reports for other progressed planets too? txs
Good that the Alan Oken link has helped your understanding cutesag I'll check whether Alan Oken has more to offer on this subject and here's some general reading on Progressions that could prove helpful to you http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/seco...ogressions.htm

Meanwhile, do consider the fact that Saturn is the domicile ruler of Capricorn so therefore it makes sense for you to take into account the following additional influences on your progressed MC
(1) the Sign your natal Saturn is in
(2) the house occupied by your natal Saturn
(3) the ruler of the Sign your natal Saturn is in
(4) natal house position of the ruler of the Sign your natal Saturn occupies
AS WELL AS
To consider that since the moon is the domicile ruler of Cancer then it is a good idea to take into account these additional influences on your progressed IC sign
(1) the Sign your natal Moon is in
(2) the house occupied by your natal Moon
(3) the ruler of the Sign your natal Moon occupies
(4) the natal house position of the ruler of the Sign your natal Moon occupies

Furthermore, consider the Progressed position of all of these planets
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let your food be your medicine: let your medicine be your food. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY red cabbage sliced Equatorially illustrates the Golden Mean Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf

Last edited by JUPITERASC; 08-15-2011 at 09:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-15-2011, 08:54 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,183
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Txs, it WAS helpful. It made me realize that transiting nodes will be on my progressed MC/IC axis by the time that axis also reaches natal sun in about a year's time. In my case, South Node will be on MC and North Node will be on IC, so I'd say the shift in focus will go in that direction (well, the opposite one wouldn't make much sense in my case...)
Interesting... here is a link to an article on the nodes as timers http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm
QUOTE=cutesag;307184]

True on Saturn and MC!
Sign= 2 Leo (ruler=Sun in cusp of 5th)
House = 12th

ok, also for this one:
sign=14 Leo (doh!)
house=1st (hence, AC 7 Leo)

So, big Leo theme here, taking me to 5th house matters. Any interpretation hints are very welcome! txs[/QUOTE]
not exactly
Sun rules Leo so we check out the Sun next.
Your Sagittarian Sun is ruled by Jupiter
Your Aries Jupiter is ruled by Mars

Your Cancer Mars is ruled by the Moon
Which brings us back to Sun and round and round we zoom endlessly considering all of these planets, their signs, their aspects, their house positions

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Saturn hardly moves through lifetime, but progressed Moon is located at 14 SAG, about to apply trine to natal moon and to conjunct retrograde nodal axis! Any interpretation hints are very welcome! txs
The progressed moon travels comparatively fast and completes a circuit of the natal chart approximately once every 27 years. Good idea to check back over time and consider whether any of the progressed moon's aspects have coincided with any notable events of your life. (A progressed chart calculated for the day of an important event would show if the progressed moon is making an important aspect to either another progressed planet OR to a natal planet or angle) Note the Sign of the progressed moon along with house position (as well as the Sign and house position of the dispositor of the progressed moon). Next consider any aspects between the progressed moon and its dispositor and/or any other planets/angles

So, since your Moon has progressed to Sagittarius, check the house and sign position of progressed Jupiter as well as the sign and house position of the dispositor of progressed Jupiter
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let your food be your medicine: let your medicine be your food. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY red cabbage sliced Equatorially illustrates the Golden Mean Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf

Last edited by JUPITERASC; 08-15-2011 at 09:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-05-2011, 01:28 PM
astrologer50's Avatar
astrologer50 astrologer50 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 13,697
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Hi everyone!

I've been looking for info on progressed MC in the signs and really I haven't found anything!!

Thing is, recently my progressed AC entered Virgo, progressed sun entered Cap and progressed moon entered scorpio (not sure if in this order ). Anyway, for someone with no earth in birth chart, you can imagine I've been acting very differently of late (grounded, workaholic, and MOODY ).

Now, I find out the progressed MC is at 29 Taurus, so will move to Gemini soon and oppose my natal sun at 2 Sag

I can't find any info on MC in Gemini, but I'd imagine I'll become very chatty and will engage in writing a lot

What do you think? This seems to be imp as progressed MC will oppose natal sun too!!

Sag
May I suggest you read the 'welcome to the world of astrology’ and other ---sticky' at the top of this forum? It has some great explanations, links etc. At the top of every forum there are lots of ‘stickys’ which explain matters in that forum, along with guidelines & tips

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature,[but not foolproof obviously, so try here first] bit like google using keywords – initially select advanced and try just selecting 'titles' rather than posts

progressed planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=266189&postcount=8

Youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfblbFnxnko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9BnE...eature=related
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-05-2011, 08:20 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,183
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
Jupiter doesn't move much by progression. Since you already know it's in Aries, plus it falls on 9th, that's where it is! Its dispositor would be Mars, currently progressed in Gemini in 11th but still under retrograde having come from cancer as you already know too. Yes, progressed Mars will conjunct progressed MC eventually... and progressed Moon will soon oppose progressed Mars....
Natal planets aspects to progressed planets form part of the analysis as do transiting planets.

MC
progressing from Taurus to Gemini - focus shifts to aspects of natal Mercury and Transiting as well as Progressed Mercury to any natal, transiting and progressed planets
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let your food be your medicine: let your medicine be your food. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY red cabbage sliced Equatorially illustrates the Golden Mean Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-30-2012, 12:30 AM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
People, I hadn't looked at this thread of mine for ages, but I feel it has been somewhat "hijacked"... I would suggest "piercethevale" to start another thread with his own data... txs
I apologize cutesag. I realize now what I had done.
I was so excited about yet another confirmation of Astro analysis technique and as how it was through my own natal ..by only the catalyst of your thread that led to it.
I am a bit weary from trying to maintain too many threads as it is and continue with new research and conjecture.
Your thread was a covienient vehicle ...[read:} "Cop Out"...
Mia Culpa...
I deleted those posts of mine.
ptv
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-30-2012, 10:19 PM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
sorry ptv, the thread was kinda "sleepy" anyway, I only meant that you seemed to be taking the discussion in a different direction from the original one, so it seemed like a different thread was starting, that was all... pls do bring up yr research results to the forum!!
Well,,,, too late...I deleted them...and I don't feel like doing all the calcs again... I got a lot of valuable info that will remain in my 'head'... thanks to your thread...let it suffice to say, then, that I do endorse pursing the 'techniques' [for the most part] herein this thread...
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-01-2012, 04:52 PM
piercethevale's Avatar
piercethevale piercethevale is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alta California
Posts: 6,481
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
I also got very interested in progressions, incidentally around the time progressed MC changed signs, and have been following them since... but I've started to question that I was really that sure about my birth time, which is crucial for this... I went back to review key life events and I've corrected MC by two degrees, but now I rather look at an "interval" of variation. Well, this is for another topic... surely many people have had trouble with birth times!!!
...for a Sabian Symbologist like myself...birth time is very crucial..as you know the cusps change every 4 mins.
The Sabians are the ULTIMATE tool of rectification ...IMH-but very experienced-O...
__________________
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-01-2012, 09:21 PM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,183
Re: progressed MC

Quote:
Originally Posted by cutesag View Post
I also got very interested in progressions, incidentally around the time progressed MC changed signs, and have been following them since... but I've started to question that I was really that sure about my birth time, which is crucial for this... I went back to review key life events and I've corrected MC by two degrees, but now I rather look at an "interval" of variation. Well, this is for another topic... surely many people have had trouble with birth times!!!
IMO cutesag it is a very good idea to question birth times for reasons outlined by poyi who works in the trauma department of a hospital and has personal work experience related to this matter
Quote:
Originally Posted by poyi View Post
I accept both views. But I believe that it is more important to review a chart accuracy yourself not relay on whoever rated this chart.

There are many human errors involved even for an AA chart.

Firstly, it could be common issue such as birth time not being accurately recorded by midwife at the time of birth because doctor/midwife could be too busy getting the newborn to breath instead of looking at the birth time. Accurate birth time is just not health care worker's ultimate concern. And here we are believed in ascendant representing the first breathe. Birth time recorded on your birth record was the time of newborn out of the womb or the time of first breathe? Something to think about....And without or you simply lost the official birth record from medical staffs; you mother don't always remember your birth time accurately as well. Who would care about the birth time when yourself screaming in pain with possibly high dose of analgesia, do you think that person could think or remember clearly? NO.

Secondly, the other possiblity such as the clock in the birth suite was simply slower than it should due to low in battery. And Helen was born in 1880s.

The third possibility could be the person who rated this chart could also make human error.

The fourth possibility could be day-light saving not being reported.


The fifth possibility, I have to say a lot of people working in health profession really have terrible hand writing. Birth time recorded by hand writing could just easily be miss-read.


The sixth possibility, regarding to time of death. In actual, hospital setting, nursing staffs/family beside patient are the first two groups of people that witness the time of death of patient. But the official announcement of death is done by medical doctor after physical assessment. The time for the doctor arrives to patient's bedside, then to assess, then writing it down on patient's progress note would take as little as 15 minutes to 1 hour; don't forget if patient died during night shift, the nurse might not realized patient had passed away in short period of time so I would say varied up to at least few hours....If patient died during busy operating hours such as midday then the time of death should be highly accurate.

The time of official announcement is the time you will see on the death certificate but patient died long before such time. This is my personal work experiences. So keep that in mind, birth time and time of death are not that reliable.

The best practice is never fully trust an AA chart and also should not overlook DD chart just because it rated as DD. Hmm which bought me into attention of checking life events by using transit to determine accuracy of the chart first! Thanks!
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let your food be your medicine: let your medicine be your food. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY red cabbage sliced Equatorially illustrates the Golden Mean Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
progressed

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Progressed planets conjunct Lilith Neptune Rising Progressions 8 01-30-2011 02:47 PM
Neptune Trine Moon Confused Introduce Yourself 12 03-25-2008 08:02 PM
Progressed Descendant Conjunct Transiting Pluto in 8th house Yoi Progressions 0 11-23-2006 10:49 AM
Progressed Natal Chart...What does it indicate? franklin taylor Progressions 4 10-20-2006 04:11 PM



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2005-2014, AstrologyWeekly.com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly.com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.