Originally Posted by sdh3
As most here are aware, what we call the Sabian Symbols came into existence in 1925 through the combined efforts of March Edmund Jones and Ms. Elsie Wheeler. Among the Sabian Symbols that they bequeathed to us are three obvious and intended references to the contemporary literature of the day. They are as follows:
- Gemini 12: A Topsy saucily asserting herself
- Aquarius 30: The field of Ardath in bloom
- Pisces 30: The Great Stone Face
The first is a reference to the slave girl Topsy
, a character in Harriet Beecher Stowe's classic novel, Uncle Tom's Cabin
, published in 1852.
The second item is a reference to Marie Corelli's
novel Ardath: The Story of a Dead Self
, published in 1889.
The third item is a reference to the short story entitled The Great Stone Face
by Nathaniel Hawthorne
, published in 1850.
I have read all of the major works and many of the minor works on the Sabian Symbols but have yet to see any discussion of the reasons why references to specific works of literature and their characters are included among these symbols. I have a few ideas--and will share them at some point--but presently am anxious to know what others may think about this.
Really? I believe Rudhyar covered it quite well as to the symbols for the 30th of Aquarius and the 30th of Pisces. [and, geesh, 75 years is a bit a of time to be considered 'contemporary' to 1925...it's about as much as the year 1925 is contemporary to this time...but, I'll hear this out.]
I've done a lot of study over a period of 50 years into clairvoyance and dream divination, and also benefit from being the son of parents that studied the same and a brother, whom has done quite a bit of 'Dream Work', and has read enough psychology to challenge for a degree in Psychology...he has 4 B.S degrees...[one of which is in English Lit., the others in Sciences...Biology, Chemistry and Computer Science] a Masters degree in teaching and is currently acquiring two more at Western New Mexico State, and I believe Psych. is one of those. He's read more Jung and Freud than anyone I've ever met...[and that includes a couple psychiatrists and a number of psychologists].
You have heard my telling of how and when I determined that 666 should be properly interpreted as WWW in 1988. My own Clairvoyant abilities at dream divination and my explanation about how symbolism through divination must be interpreted through a means that is culturally germane to the subject matter that is of the 'question' that is sought.
And I have brought up that, as to the setting, manner, and time Mr. Jones put Miss Elsie through this endeavor, the emphasis was on getting the symbol
, not the choice of words so much, but to get 'The Whole Picture'
and determine later on just what they were and the two of them had come up with overall. As Jones had no way of knowing if Elsie could actually do it, nor did he know what these symbols were going to produce as a set..[by 'Set'; meaning congruous], and if a 'set' was even to be what should be expected.
I'll be looking forward to see what you write.
I saw the links to your manuscript and checked it out a bit..and I congratulate you what looks like a very slick looking package which you shouldn't have any trouble getting published, I believe...[or, is it published already?..I may have missed that if you said it is.]