Kitten born in the oven doesn’t make it a fire sign

[tokyo.lights]

I’m curious as how you’d differentiate between say (for example) a fire Sun and a fire heavy chart without a fire Sun? (Or Water, Earth, Air)…Are we thinking more black & white as in a fire Sun is a fire Sun, and it can’t be manufactured…or could a strong enough element influence a person, where the Sun becomes weaker? Could someone be fiery enough to become like a fire Sun? Without an actual fire Sun?


Being a water Sun I find the way I -connect- with water Suns vs non-water Suns with watery charts is different. The connection is present with non-water Suns, but it feels more superficial. In fact immensely superficial compared to how I feel with other water Suns. Having strong fire in my chart, I've found interactions with fire Suns are positive, they welcome my crazy energy, but it doesn't go any deeper...and it doesn't have to for most types of friendships. That’s been my personal experience, would be great to hear what others think.

[Moog]

Interesting title..

When I meet people, I can't usually guess their Sun sign, but I do often get the feel for the elemental force that dominates.

Sometimes I can detect if someone has a particularly prominent planet.

[tokyo.lights]

Originally Posted by Moog

Interesting title..

When I meet people, I can't usually guess their Sun sign, but I do often get the feel for the elemental force that dominates.

Sometimes I can detect if someone has a particularly prominent planet.

Hahaha thanks

That's interesting, are you particularly sensitive to certain planets or elements? How much of the initial first impression lives on once you get to know them?
I'm particularly sensitive to people's Moon. 4 very close girlfriends have water Moons...one Pisces, three Scorpio. Funny thing, they've all been accused of being insensitive, insincere, fake and shallow...could not be further from the truth. They are honest to goodness lovely girls, who will probably cry at a drop of a hat. Just most people don't -get- them, but I see past their hard shell...especially my Aries -Moon/Neptune- friend. But if I were to compare them to water Suns...it's like comparing a fish bowl and the ocean. I feel as if Moon water signs are genuinely emotional, but it's not their identity. They don't drop to the depth or rise to the highs emotionally in a way I've seen the Suns do. In fact the reason I prefer water Moon is they are the lite version of water Suns, they lack the painful soul sucking intensity.
In my experience, while someone may have strong Cancer/Moon, Scorpio/Pluto or Pisces/Neptune in their chart, from a genuine water perspective, having experienced both...it's not the same thing. It's not their core, their identity. They don't live, breath it. And good for them, no one should be tormented that way I have a strong Mars, but that doesn't make me an Aries. It's the way I've been conditioned, but it's not who I am.